son of witless

I liked how the movie Indians always described such behavior as speaking with " forked tongue ".

Mikeyavelli

woodguru

If Obama was the master of murky language I h**e to think how you made any sense out of Trump's incoherent ramblings. I went over written transcripts of some of his particularly incoherent ones, I found it interesting simply as an exercise in seeing thoughts jumping from one thing to another entirely unrelated thing. The fascinating thing was seeing no connection that indicated any sort of thoughts progressing or evolving in any meaningful way, just a pop over to another train of thought.

The Ms.

Yes, they give snakes a bad name...

woodguru

Seriously, how can you talk about Obama lying with a straight face?

The Ms.

One reference correction... it was Empty Three Piece Suite... coined in the 80s.

The Ms.

Seriously, how can you ask that question.... if his mouth was moving... he was lying....

woodguru

So, when did trump ever spend five minutes that wasn't talking about something about himself that wasn't in the context of being the greatest wh**ever?

Of course with him it wasn't I, I, I, it was Donald J Trump is the greatest, or did the greatest, and it was always in the history of the united states, or the world...
...he said he was probably the smartest person in the world
...said something about the highest IQ in the world
...knew more than anyone in the intelligence services
...best economy in history

and on and on and on

The Ms.

Because he could..... he had the deeds to back up his words!!!!
If you listen to most men.... always “ the biggest, the best”.....

son of witless

I cannot say you are wrong because I do not know what Donald J. Trump speeches you mean. I am sure he had bad days. He ad-libbed a lot.

Whereas your hero the Great Obama used to do it purposely. I recall posting an Obama speech on OPP and daring any of you guys to tell me what the frack he was talking about. I had no takers. When I could get a response from your compadras they always remarked how wonderful Obama sounded. He used them big Harvard phrases that charmed the pants off of Liberals. It di-int matter that they had no idea what them flowery phrases meant or what their context was.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

How quickly NY Times forgets Obama's lies and frauds
Trump’s lies deserve to be exposed and condemned. But Bush’s and Obama’s lies help explain why only 20 percent of Americans trusted the federal government at the end of Obama’s reign. Pretending America recently had a Golden Age of honest politicians encourages the delusion that toppling Trump is all that is necessary to make the federal government great again.
Has the Times forgotten about Edward Snowden? Obama responded to Snowden’s stunning revelations of the National Security Agency’s vacuuming up millions of Americans’ personal data by going on the Jay Leno Show and proclaiming: “There is no spying on Americans.” But NSA’s definition of “terrorist suspect” was so ludicrously broad that it includes anyone “searching the web for suspicious stuff” (maybe including p**********l lies). Obama’s verbal defenses of NSA spying collapsed like a row of houses of cards.

In early 2009, Obama visited Mexico and, in a spiel calling for the renewal of the assault weapon ban, asserted that “more than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States.” This vastly overstated the actual problem, since that statistic measured only firearms that Mexican authorities sent to the U.S. for tracing.
His administration then acted as if 90 percent was a goal, not a lie, launching a secret Fast and Furious gun-walking operation masterminded by the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agency, deluging Mexican drug gangs with high-powered weapons. At least 150 Mexicans were k**led by guns illegally sent south of the border with Obama administration approval.
Obama’s animosity to the Second Amendment spurred some of his most farcical whoppers. In July 2016, Obama asserted: “We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than get his hands on a computer or even a book.” Glocks are the Lexus of handguns, and a person could buy hundreds of volumes of used books via Amazon for the price of a Glock.
A year earlier, Obama bewailed “neighborhoods where it’s easier for you to buy a handgun and clips than it is for you to buy a fresh vegetable.” Obama never offered a single example of a locale where carrots are rarer than .38 Specials. But his false claim helped frighten clueless suburbanites to support Obama’s anti-gun agenda.
The Times column lists only one Obama falsehood on the Affordable Care Act: “If you like your doctor, you'll be able to keep your doctor; if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan.” Obama’s dozens of variations and recitals of this lie were disregarded. The Times also ignored the fact that the ObamaCare legislation was carefully crafted to con Congress and the public. As its intellectual godfather, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber explained:
“Lack of t***sparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American v**er or wh**ever, but basically, that was really, really critical to get this thing to pass.”
Fast and Furious gun-walking operation masterminded by the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives agency, deluging Mexican drug gangs with high-powered weapons. At least 150 Mexicans were k**led by guns illegally sent south of the border with Obama administration approval.
Obama’s animosity to the Second Amendment spurred some of his most farcical whoppers. In July 2016, Obama asserted: “We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than get his hands on a computer or even a book.” Glocks are the Lexus of handguns, and a person could buy hundreds of volumes of used books via Amazon for the price of a Glock.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/365393-how-quickly-ny-times-forgets-obamas-lies-and-frauds

Chicago Tribune
We found out who President Obama was. That would be himself. He spoke for 37 minutes at a Democratic rally and he said I, me or my, at least 97 times. So we know who Barack Obama was. We also know that he told the biggest lie in American history about the health care plan. As I listened to him speak, I thought he was talking about himself when he said they divide people against this group and that group, and you pit them against each other. That’s exactly what he did his entire time when he was in office.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/ct-lns-talk-of-the-county-st-1102-story.html

Obama’s list of lies is long
He signed an executive order allowing Interpol to operate freely inside the U.S. without restraints that apply to U.S. law enforcement agencies; issued more than 20 separate executive orders attacking and undermining Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms; and released five terrorists without notifying Congress 30 days prior as required by law.
https://www.theunion.com/opinion/letters/obamas-list-of-lies-is-long

Obama told the biggest lie in a century
https://www.theintell.com/story/opinion/letters/2020/07/16/lte-obama-told-biggest-lie-in-century/112700216/

Mikeyavelli

Brockobamma did lie with a straight face and sold the lies with his jackassy grin.
Biggest h**x in history, any history.
Brockobamma has surpassed the Trojan Horse.

marlene eck

After Biden won, most of my neighbors went out in the street and honked horns, and danced around.
If everyone would stop talking about Trump, he would fad into the sunset very quickly.

bylm1-Bernie

Well, Woody, like the Diz said, "It ain't braggin if you done it."

The Ms.

America1,

Well said and referenced..... Probably went over Wood’s head.... Thanks !