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Aug 16, 2014 13:49:24   #
jetson
 
Rainrider wrote:
As the end of days gets closer, it is even more important that we look hard at what is to come. In hopes of us knowing who is who, what is what, and when to do as Yeshua told us. The best place to start in my mind would be Rev. 13. It is here that we get a good idea what is going to happen. As with all study I know it will not stay on this passage. After all there are so many that shine light on this. Daniel, Ezechiel, Issiah, Jeremiah, and others.
Here we will look at why one may think the beast is the RCC, from the tribe of Dan, Islam, or what ever is on your minds.
I firmly believe it is Islam. I say this for many reason, yet the most impotent would be the description given in both Bible, and the Koran.
Let me first open by removing the RCC from this list. For any that think I am wrong, please point out why. Though I do pray the teaching has removed from ever ones mind by now. I will do this by looking at what the spirit of the anti-christ is, and what it will do.
1John 2:22-23 tells us that anyone that denies the reality of the Trinity, embodies the spirit of the anti-christ. The RCC teaches about the Trinity, so it can not be them. As do most religions that follow the true faith.
Knowing this the anti-christ will never give acknowledgement to the teaching. Rather he will mock it, Teaching that HaShem is to good to have a child with a mortal. Is this not what Islam does?
2John 1:7 calls the anti-christ a deceiver. So with the passages given, we find that the anti-christ will deny all of the following.
1 That Yeshua is the Savior of Israel and the world.
2 The trinity, or that Yeshua is the Son of HaShem.
3 That Yeshua is HaShem who came to earth in the flesh, and walked with us.
Does not Islam do all the above?
Rev.13:14 we find that the anti-christ, ( known here after as A.C.) is a deceiver. In the Koran we find that Allah brags about being Khayrul-Makireen. A literal t***slation of this is, The greatest of all deceivers.
Looks like a good place to stop for now, I have some things I must get done.

Barukh Attah Adonai, It is with a humble heart, and great care we undertake this topic. No man can lay claim to knowing all the answers, yet when many gather to loook at a thing, we are open to many ideas, and in them we can find the t***h, if simply let the Spirit be our guide. You told us you would send us a teacher, and a comforter. We all stand in agrement of this, and understand that to be the Spirit. Your Spirit is to be our only true teacher, so we ask that you will open our hearts, minds, and ears to what you have to say.
This we ask, and give thanks for in the Name of Yeshua HaMashiach.
As the end of days gets closer, it is even more im... (show quote)


Read the info; at jesus-is-savior.com and maybe you will understand, a pope will be the antichrist and even possible that Frances is the one

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Aug 16, 2014 14:52:33   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Eight Signs of the End Times

1. Increased knowledge – But you, Daniel, keep this prophecy a secret; seal up the book until the time of the end, when many will rush here and there, and knowledge will increase. Daniel 12:4
2. Israel becomes a nation (Israel is known as the Fig Tree Nation) – Now learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branches bud and its leaves begin to sprout, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all these things, you can know his return is very near, right at the door. Matthew 24:32-33
3. Earthquakes in diverse places – Nation will go to war against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in many parts of the world. Matthew 24:7
4. Sea and waves roaring – And there will be strange signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. Luke 21:25
5. Mass animal deaths – That is why your land is in mourning, and everyone is wasting away. Even the wild animals, the birds of the sky, and the fish of the sea are disappearing. Hosea 4:3
6. Christian persecution – Then you will be arrested, persecuted, and k**led. You will be h**ed all over the world because you are my followers. Matthew 24:9
7. Love of many shall wax cold – Sin will be rampant everywhere, and the love of many will grow cold. Matthew 24:12
8. There shall come to pass last day scoffers – Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the t***h and following their own desires. 2 Peter 3:3

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Aug 16, 2014 14:59:00   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Rainrider wrote:
As the end of days gets closer, it is even more important that we look hard at what is to come. In hopes of us knowing who is who, what is what, and when to do as Yeshua told us. The best place to start in my mind would be Rev. 13. It is here that we get a good idea what is going to happen. As with all study I know it will not stay on this passage. After all there are so many that shine light on this. Daniel, Ezechiel, Issiah, Jeremiah, and others.
Here we will look at why one may think the beast is the RCC, from the tribe of Dan, Islam, or what ever is on your minds.
I firmly believe it is Islam. I say this for many reason, yet the most impotent would be the description given in both Bible, and the Koran.
Let me first open by removing the RCC from this list. For any that think I am wrong, please point out why. Though I do pray the teaching has removed from ever ones mind by now. I will do this by looking at what the spirit of the anti-christ is, and what it will do.
1John 2:22-23 tells us that anyone that denies the reality of the Trinity, embodies the spirit of the anti-christ. The RCC teaches about the Trinity, so it can not be them. As do most religions that follow the true faith.
Knowing this the anti-christ will never give acknowledgement to the teaching. Rather he will mock it, Teaching that HaShem is to good to have a child with a mortal. Is this not what Islam does?
2John 1:7 calls the anti-christ a deceiver. So with the passages given, we find that the anti-christ will deny all of the following.
1 That Yeshua is the Savior of Israel and the world.
2 The trinity, or that Yeshua is the Son of HaShem.
3 That Yeshua is HaShem who came to earth in the flesh, and walked with us.
Does not Islam do all the above?
Rev.13:14 we find that the anti-christ, ( known here after as A.C.) is a deceiver. In the Koran we find that Allah brags about being Khayrul-Makireen. A literal t***slation of this is, The greatest of all deceivers.
Looks like a good place to stop for now, I have some things I must get done.

Barukh Attah Adonai, It is with a humble heart, and great care we undertake this topic. No man can lay claim to knowing all the answers, yet when many gather to loook at a thing, we are open to many ideas, and in them we can find the t***h, if simply let the Spirit be our guide. You told us you would send us a teacher, and a comforter. We all stand in agrement of this, and understand that to be the Spirit. Your Spirit is to be our only true teacher, so we ask that you will open our hearts, minds, and ears to what you have to say.
This we ask, and give thanks for in the Name of Yeshua HaMashiach.
As the end of days gets closer, it is even more im... (show quote)


You are right about the beast being Islam. The "beast" as said in the Holy Bible is any Dictating tryannicle c*******tic force. The Leviathon is the evil branch of the Levitical Priesthood, that through the age has taken on the name Islam. It began at the OT rebuilding of thr temple where an evil priest named Hashum was seal in the book of the law with jewish priest. Islams muhammad is hashims descendent along with his father.

The world is not going to end as said in several scripture.
Try this: sit with 4 - 5 young teenagers and tell them the worlds going to end, then sit quietly and listen to their sadness and tears as they fear never knowing Love, Marriage, Children, all the life "That You Have".

This end of the world crap is so mean.

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Aug 16, 2014 15:22:44   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
You guys are forgetting the Scriptures written in Revalations. There were four creatures with the Lamb. The Lamb being Christ. One was an eagle in flight, there is only one country in the world who chose the Eagle in flight as their symbol and that is the United States. The other one is a calf. Not sure who that represents, the third is a man, don't know who that represents but the Lion is Great Britain. Those two I am sure of. The Bear and the leopard is Russia and Germany.

Now, if the United States were against the "Lamb" then the Eagle mentioned in flight, which represents freedom, would not be presented. However it is. Same with the Lion, however if I am not mistaken, the Lion is also the symbol of Israel, so I am not sure there. We assume it is Great Britain. but It is shaky. Since its founding, in 1776, the animal that represents true freedom is the flying eagle. Not an eagle that has landed but one that is in flight. John specifically describes the eagle as being in flight. So even though we go back and forth with the pendulum, I believe we as a country shall remain faithful, however, there will be some intense moments. The d**gon is China.

This much I understand. However, the rest of it is shaky. I never thought that the Muslims would be the beast. Or is it possible that the N**is were the beast, but the Muslims took up the image of the beast?

I just want to throw that out there, and see what you all think. The past is easier to understand then the future.
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"The Four Creatures" of Revelations. Face of Man: jesus called himselh "son of man". Face of man is outside pagan tribes who Isreal married into and looked jewish but were far from it; Herodians, Sumarians, etc.
The flying eagle; gentile armies. (Germans: thunderbird)
......will come back.......

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Aug 16, 2014 15:23:41   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
I want to interject one thought: If you have faith you have everything you need that is, the equipment to go to heaven.

“Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, ‘Peace and safety,’ destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.”

“But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.” (1 Thes. 5:1-5)

It doesn't matter how many ways you want to spin it, either you believe or you don't....God doesn't care. If God cared there wouldn't be the end of days.

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Aug 16, 2014 15:42:00   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I want to interject one thought: If you have faith you have everything you need that is, the equipment to go to heaven.

“Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, ‘Peace and safety,’ destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.”

“But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.” (1 Thes. 5:1-5)

It doesn't matter how many ways you want to spin it, either you believe or you don't....God doesn't care. If God cared there wouldn't be the end of days.
I want to interject one thought: If you have fait... (show quote)


Yea,but we are told to watch.... And I am watching. Nor fearing the end times because the good guys,they are outta here&#128519;

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Aug 16, 2014 16:29:31   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
cant beleve wrote:
Yea,but we are told to watch.... And I am watching. Nor fearing the end times because the good guys,they are outta here&#128519;


I care not to watch....it's boring...blissful ignorance is fine with me.

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Aug 16, 2014 17:00:32   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
rhomin57 wrote:
"The Four Creatures" of Revelations. Face of Man: jesus called himselh "son of man". Face of man is outside pagan tribes who Isreal married into and looked jewish but were far from it; Herodians, Sumarians, etc.
The flying eagle; gentile armies. (Germans: thunderbird)
......will come back.......


The calf: there were 3 calf shapped idols in OT where Israel sinned in idol worship.
Lion: In OT God sent maneating lions on the idol worshipping sumarians who lived in Israel as punishing judgment.
This is all about a huge terrible judgment to happen on
I s r a e l --------------- Gods chosen people, not America or Russia of Britain for Gods sake.

If you really whant the world to end - tell N. Korea. They will oblige. I***ts

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Aug 16, 2014 17:43:31   #
rich boise Loc: Idaho
 
Meaner to pretend their will never be a "Day of the LORD". The details are not clear and disputable. The time is unknown and unknowable. But it will surely come to pass.
rhomin57 wrote:
You are right about the beast being Islam. The "beast" as said in the Holy Bible is any Dictating tryannicle c*******tic force. The Leviathon is the evil branch of the Levitical Priesthood, that through the age has taken on the name Islam. It began at the OT rebuilding of thr temple where an evil priest named Hashum was seal in the book of the law with jewish priest. Islams muhammad is hashims descendent along with his father.

The world is not going to end as said in several scripture.
Try this: sit with 4 - 5 young teenagers and tell them the worlds going to end, then sit quietly and listen to their sadness and tears as they fear never knowing Love, Marriage, Children, all the life "That You Have".

This end of the world crap is so mean.
You are right about the beast being Islam. The &qu... (show quote)

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Aug 17, 2014 02:16:10   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
rhomin57 wrote:
"The Four Creatures" of Revelations. Face of Man: jesus called himselh "son of man". Face of man is outside pagan tribes who Isreal married into and looked jewish but were far from it; Herodians, Sumarians, etc.
The flying eagle; gentile armies. (Germans: thunderbird)
......will come back.......


You must use the symbols used for the nations today, the "Flying eagle" is not the Germans for according to internet sources their symbol is the leopard.

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Aug 17, 2014 02:17:49   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
rhomin57 wrote:
The calf: there were 3 calf shapped idols in OT where Israel sinned in idol worship.
Lion: In OT God sent maneating lions on the idol worshipping sumarians who lived in Israel as punishing judgment.
This is all about a huge terrible judgment to happen on
I s r a e l --------------- Gods chosen people, not America or Russia of Britain for Gods sake.

If you really whant the world to end - tell N. Korea. They will oblige. I***ts


The four living creatures represent nations of the Earth. Whereas the D**gon and the Beast represent evil nations of the Earth.

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Aug 17, 2014 11:29:03   #
Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM
 
Steve700 wrote:
You have it backwards. The seven-year agreement kicks off the tribulations and Armageddon had follow soon at the end of that seven years. It is it is prophesies that Russia will be assisting the Arabs in going against Israel, probably in the belief that due to the coming Israeli versus Muslim Arab chaos in the middle of the tribulations they will be mistakingly thinking that the only way to bring world peace is to get rid of Israel. It is in the health care bill plus Henry Kissinger has stated several times that chipping is to be in 2017 and probably will begin a little before that. With the New World order borders will be erased (that's why nothing has been done with the board or four years) and the chip will also be a means of tracking us. You become a problem and your chip gets turned off. I would put in "New World order", "Obama takeover", "tribulations", "seven-year peace agreement", "alien deception", "one world religion" "coming economic collapse " and "martial law " etc. in the YouTube address bar. There are tons of videos on all this stuff and that is an interesting way to learn what's been going on and what's coming.
You have it backwards. The seven-year agreement ki... (show quote)


Thank you, I will be looking this over once more at work tonight. What you said does add up, if one looks at the mess that is going on now. It will be out desperation that Israel will sign the treaty, with all add being cut off, they are going to backed into a corner soon. Thank you.

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Aug 17, 2014 11:30:21   #
Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM
 
Steve700 wrote:
Obama fits both the Mahdi and the antichrist. Lots of YouTube videos on both of this.


From my study they are one and the same. You see the Mahdi is the islamic version of Yeshua.

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Aug 17, 2014 11:39:32   #
Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM
 
Steve700 wrote:
That's right, no one knows or can predict exactly when. But there is a lot of indicators. The Bible also says that in the end times nothing in the way of information will be held back from you. I certainly have found that to be true but you have to be interested in t***h and be open and look for it. If you are just busy living your life and trying to enjoy it like most liberals, you're going to be oblivious to what's going on and with politics only interested in how the right is fucking up your world and trying to slow down the progress that you think being progressive is all about. The information that I have gotten into leads me to believe that the economic collapse will be here around the end of next year. Don't be so cocksure that it's not going to happen because it hasn't happened yet when many thought it would have by now. Anyone with a brain in their head knows that an economic collapse is inevitable. It can only continue to get worse and worse at this point and there is no longer the ability to fix it without unbelievably severe inflation which in itself will be a collapse. The Fed has been playing games to put it off but they can't stop it. It's like going to court where you can keep getting continuances and find legal games to put things off but eventually you have to pay the piper. Among the reasons to get a good handle on when the economic collapse, the tribulations, and Armageddon are going to take place, can be found by looking up and watching YouTube videos on the following: put these words in the YouTube address bar: Harbinger, Shemita, blood moons, Pope and new one world religion, economic collapse, martial law, Obama takeover. If you would just bothered to do that and watch about 15 hours worth of that stuff in the order I gave it you will note far far more than you do now and actually have a basis for an opinion. Don't make the mistake of dismissing YouTube videos as not being a good reliable source of information. Just watch this stuff; you'll find it entertaining, and then you can decide for yourself.
That's right, no one knows or can predict exactly ... (show quote)


Sadly you are right. Inflation has been an on going thing for at lest the last 5 years. Hyperinflation is not to fare off. If one looks back the depression of the 1920's they will soon see we are going down the same road today. The only thing that has changed, we are much deeper in debt today, and there is almost 100,000 times the currency out there over what we hold in gold. I may be way under on that.

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Aug 17, 2014 11:49:29   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Rainrider wrote:
From my study they are one and the same. You see the Mahdi is the islamic version of Yeshua.


This shows us that there is competition.
[url]http://youtu.be/Pa4nsCYzM1w
Also look up on YouTube Pope Francis declares himself the Antichrist. You'll hear it come straight out of his mouth.

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