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Aug 15, 2014 11:14:45   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
That must be Jehovah Witness book or something, I have heard of Revelations.....


Revelations is the last book of the bible written by the apostle St. John.

Final book of the Bible, and it is in the King James Version as well as in the Catholic Version and many, many, other versions. I did not realize how many different versions there was. Well, to each their own.

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Aug 15, 2014 11:18:10   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Steve700 wrote:
Don't be so cocksure that it's not going to happen because it hasn't happened yet when many thought it would have by now. Anyone with a brain in their head knows that an economic collapse is inevitable.


...so two comments....

1. Dont be so cocksure...right back at ya...

2. We can safely then assume that you lack a brain...but economic collapse, perhaps....the US as well as the world have seen such things...I don't need the bible or your opinion....since it inevitable. The "string pullers" create a crisis and then help the rest of us come back to a better world...all the while...creating another failure.
3. An Economy is a product of it's time and will never be full proof. Brains or otherwise: history is a museum of failed economies.

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Aug 15, 2014 11:19:18   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Revelations is the last book of the bible written by the apostle St. John.

Final book of the Bible, and it is in the King James Version as well as in the Catholic Version and many, many, other versions. I did not realize how many different versions there was. Well, to each their own.


...and hence: you wrote REVALATIONS not Revelations.... :-)

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Aug 15, 2014 11:22:50   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...and hence: you wrote REVALATIONS not Revelations.... :-)


Opps been up all night delivering papers sorry.

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Aug 15, 2014 11:25:37   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...so two comments....

1. Dont be so cocksure...right back at ya...

2. We can safely then assume that you lack a brain...but economic collapse, perhaps....the US as well as the world have seen such things...I don't need the bible or your opinion....since it inevitable. The "string pullers" create a crisis and then help the rest of us come back to a better world...all the while...creating another failure.
3. An Economy is a product of it's time and will never be full proof. Brains or otherwise: history is a museum of failed economies.
...so two comments.... br br 1. Dont be so cocksu... (show quote)


The Apostles said that the end days would be like that of the days of Noah. I think Christ said that too. Anyways, if that is true, which I believe it is, then no one will believe it is happening in their time.....food for thought.

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Aug 15, 2014 11:30:00   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Opps been up all night delivering papers sorry.


Guess it's better than rolling papers....

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Aug 15, 2014 11:33:18   #
rich boise Loc: Idaho
 
Interesting stuff. As to what some "prophets" have said; some have clearly been wrong, especially when setting dates, even approximate dates. Many of the others have not happened YET but.... Let me put forth my current thoughts on "the end times". These come from studying many teachings by many teachers but relying on the Bible (as led by the Holy Spirit) as the only solid source. Let me start with Psalm 83. Some think this is just a prayer, many think there is a shooting war. I am not sure it refers to an actual war but the rhetoric sure is interesting, and very familiar. (My speculation) I think there is an actual war. Note the players listed describe Israel's immediate neighbors. When Hamas, Hezbollah, and radicals in Sinai, parts of Jordan, and Syria all decide to wipe out Israel, I believe the IDF will defeat them. Israel will gain more territory and some p***e will arise surrounding the IDF. Israelis will feel safer and this will really inflame the muslims. It might be immediate or it might take some time but I think this might trigger the war described by Ezekiel. (Gog and Magog) The players described by Ezekiel appear to be the "Muslim World" of today maybe with a couple of extras (Russia? Germany?). This would be a major drive to wipe out Israel once and for all, believing they are led by their god. When Israel really has their back to the wall God will intervene and it will be over quickly. The muslim armies will be decimated and "many nations" will know that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the true God. I think this might bring a great awakening among the surviving muslims (about 17% of the armies and those remaining at home) where many turn to the true God. I think this devasting war and the many millions k**led will fuel the call for "humanity" to unite "to assure that this can never happen again." This would lead to the rise of the one world government and the final anti-christ.
Looking around we can see the players falling into line. I don't know how close I am but the MOST IMPORTANT thing is "Are you ready?". Do you know Jesus? Have you been washed in the blood? Have you been forgiven and born again?
Thanks for listening and please carefully consider where you stand.

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Aug 15, 2014 11:41:56   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
rich boise wrote:
Interesting stuff. As to what some "prophets" have said; some have clearly been wrong, especially when setting dates, even approximate dates. Many of the others have not happened YET but.... Let me put forth my current thoughts on "the end times". These come from studying many teachings by many teachers but relying on the Bible (as led by the Holy Spirit) as the only solid source. Let me start with Psalm 83. Some think this is just a prayer, many think there is a shooting war. I am not sure it refers to an actual war but the rhetoric sure is interesting, and very familiar. (My speculation) I think there is an actual war. Note the players listed describe Israel's immediate neighbors. When Hamas, Hezbollah, and radicals in Sinai, parts of Jordan, and Syria all decide to wipe out Israel, I believe the IDF will defeat them. Israel will gain more territory and some p***e will arise surrounding the IDF. Israelis will feel safer and this will really inflame the muslims. It might be immediate or it might take some time but I think this might trigger the war described by Ezekiel. (Gog and Magog) The players described by Ezekiel appear to be the "Muslim World" of today maybe with a couple of extras (Russia? Germany?). This would be a major drive to wipe out Israel once and for all, believing they are led by their god. When Israel really has their back to the wall God will intervene and it will be over quickly. The muslim armies will be decimated and "many nations" will know that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the true God. I think this might bring a great awakening among the surviving muslims (about 17% of the armies and those remaining at home) where many turn to the true God. I think this devasting war and the many millions k**led will fuel the call for "humanity" to unite "to assure that this can never happen again." This would lead to the rise of the one world government and the final anti-christ.
Looking around we can see the players falling into line. I don't know how close I am but the MOST IMPORTANT thing is "Are you ready?". Do you know Jesus? Have you been washed in the blood? Have you been forgiven and born again?
Thanks for listening and please carefully consider where you stand.
Interesting stuff. As to what some "prophets&... (show quote)


Hey Rich, I lived in Idaho Falls, love that state. I envy you....I have been trying to find a way back there (a job) for a long time. I think I might have to plan to retire there instead.

I know where I stand, my friend, but these fools chase dust every day...and it still keeps coming back. Chase Jesus instead, and the rest of it will take care of itself. I'm tired of preppers: I think they need pat themselves on the back regularly to remind themselves that: "They're doin' the right thing".

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Aug 15, 2014 13:29:32   #
rich boise Loc: Idaho
 
Been here since 2003. I do love it here. My expectation is that my next love will be vertical! However, the economy is pretty tough. Finding a job is very difficult (even if I wasn't old, which of course makes it much worse)
Dummy Boy wrote:
Hey Rich, I lived in Idaho Falls, love that state. I envy you....I have been trying to find a way back there (a job) for a long time. I think I might have to plan to retire there instead.

I know where I stand, my friend, but these fools chase dust every day...and it still keeps coming back. Chase Jesus instead, and the rest of it will take care of itself. I'm tired of preppers: I think they need pat themselves on the back regularly to remind themselves that: "They're doin' the right thing".
Hey Rich, I lived in Idaho Falls, love that state.... (show quote)

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Aug 15, 2014 13:34:21   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
The Apostles said that the end days would be like that of the days of Noah. I think Christ said that too. Anyways, if that is true, which I believe it is, then no one will believe it is happening in their time.....food for thought.


Well, I didn't live in the days of Noah and it may seem worse, but who really knows. I know-I don't. I do know there are a lot of Christians, so I guess I would argue that it isn't like the days of Noah yet.

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Aug 16, 2014 00:00:59   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Well, I didn't live in the days of Noah and it may seem worse, but who really knows. I know-I don't. I do know there are a lot of Christians, so I guess I would argue that it isn't like the days of Noah yet.


Thank God for that! But that doesn't mean it will not come to be. Every successful attack on a Christian brings us closer to being more like the days of Noah.

Do not underestimate the human race, however, during those times, humans were experimenting with the "Splitting of Species", today it would be called experimenting with DNA and Genetics.

Now finding cures is one thing, making clones or spiritless bodies is something else, but I'm bordering theology and science, so I'll stop right here.

If you want an insight about what it was like during the times of Noah, let me refer you to the book of Genesis, Enoch, Jubilees and off hand I forget the other book, but let me also refer you to Jude, the second to the last book of the Bible.

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Aug 16, 2014 00:26:02   #
rich boise Loc: Idaho
 
You make an interesting point. Check out "t***shumanism". Some interesting info there. That aside, please read Luke 17:22-27 and Matthew24:36-39. From the context I believe the point is more about most people just going along, living life the way they want, and being oblivious to the impending judgment.
Ranger7374 wrote:
Thank God for that! But that doesn't mean it will not come to be. Every successful attack on a Christian brings us closer to being more like the days of Noah.

Do not underestimate the human race, however, during those times, humans were experimenting with the "Splitting of Species", today it would be called experimenting with DNA and Genetics.

Now finding cures is one thing, making clones or spiritless bodies is something else, but I'm bordering theology and science, so I'll stop right here.

If you want an insight about what it was like during the times of Noah, let me refer you to the book of Genesis, Enoch, Jubilees and off hand I forget the other book, but let me also refer you to Jude, the second to the last book of the Bible.
Thank God for that! But that doesn't mean it will ... (show quote)

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Aug 16, 2014 02:27:19   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
rich boise wrote:
You make an interesting point. Check out "t***shumanism". Some interesting info there. That aside, please read Luke 17:22-27 and Matthew24:36-39. From the context I believe the point is more about most people just going along, living life the way they want, and being oblivious to the impending judgment.


And according to my research, that is exactly what happened in the days of Noah, because Enoch preached and warned the people about the coming flood, his son Methuselah did the same, as well as Lamech, then Lamech had a son, Noah and the flood hit and Noah and his family were saved. I like to call the flood, the "Nephilim Apocalypse."

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Aug 16, 2014 12:14:09   #
rich boise Loc: Idaho
 
You got it. Noah was a "preacher of righteousness" how many listened to Noah? How many asked if they could get in the ark with Noah? Unfortunately none. They were busy doing their own thing.
Ranger7374 wrote:
And according to my research, that is exactly what happened in the days of Noah, because Enoch preached and warned the people about the coming flood, his son Methuselah did the same, as well as Lamech, then Lamech had a son, Noah and the flood hit and Noah and his family were saved. I like to call the flood, the "Nephilim Apocalypse."

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Aug 16, 2014 13:19:17   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Rainrider wrote:
As the end of days gets closer, it is even more important that we look hard at what is to come. In hopes of us knowing who is who, what is what, and when to do as Yeshua told us. The best place to start in my mind would be Rev. 13. It is here that we get a good idea what is going to happen. As with all study I know it will not stay on this passage. After all there are so many that shine light on this. Daniel, Ezechiel, Issiah, Jeremiah, and others.
Here we will look at why one may think the beast is the RCC, from the tribe of Dan, Islam, or what ever is on your minds.
I firmly believe it is Islam. I say this for many reason, yet the most impotent would be the description given in both Bible, and the Koran.
Let me first open by removing the RCC from this list. For any that think I am wrong, please point out why. Though I do pray the teaching has removed from ever ones mind by now. I will do this by looking at what the spirit of the anti-christ is, and what it will do.
1John 2:22-23 tells us that anyone that denies the reality of the Trinity, embodies the spirit of the anti-christ. The RCC teaches about the Trinity, so it can not be them. As do most religions that follow the true faith.
Knowing this the anti-christ will never give acknowledgement to the teaching. Rather he will mock it, Teaching that HaShem is to good to have a child with a mortal. Is this not what Islam does?
2John 1:7 calls the anti-christ a deceiver. So with the passages given, we find that the anti-christ will deny all of the following.
1 That Yeshua is the Savior of Israel and the world.
2 The trinity, or that Yeshua is the Son of HaShem.
3 That Yeshua is HaShem who came to earth in the flesh, and walked with us.
Does not Islam do all the above?
Rev.13:14 we find that the anti-christ, ( known here after as A.C.) is a deceiver. In the Koran we find that Allah brags about being Khayrul-Makireen. A literal t***slation of this is, The greatest of all deceivers.
Looks like a good place to stop for now, I have some things I must get done.

Barukh Attah Adonai, It is with a humble heart, and great care we undertake this topic. No man can lay claim to knowing all the answers, yet when many gather to loook at a thing, we are open to many ideas, and in them we can find the t***h, if simply let the Spirit be our guide. You told us you would send us a teacher, and a comforter. We all stand in agrement of this, and understand that to be the Spirit. Your Spirit is to be our only true teacher, so we ask that you will open our hearts, minds, and ears to what you have to say.
This we ask, and give thanks for in the Name of Yeshua HaMashiach.
As the end of days gets closer, it is even more im... (show quote)


You are right about the beast being Islam. The "beast" as said in the Holy Bible is any Dictating tryannicle c*******tic force. The Leviathon is the evil branch of the Levitical Priesthood, that through the age has taken on the name Islam. It began at the OT rebuilding of thr temple where an evil priest named Hashum was seal in the book of the law with jewish priest. Islams muhammad is hashims descendent along with his father.

The world is not going to end as said in several scripture.
Try this: sit with 4 - 5 young teenagers and tell them the worlds going to end, then sit quietly and listen to their sadness and tears as they fear never knowing Love, Marriage, Children, all the life "That You Have".

This end of the world crap is so mean.

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