Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

As the end of days gets closer, it is even more important that we look hard at what is to come. In hopes of us knowing who is who, what is what, and when to do as Yeshua told us. The best place to start in my mind would be Rev. 13. It is here that we get a good idea what is going to happen. As with all study I know it will not stay on this passage. After all there are so many that shine light on this. Daniel, Ezechiel, Issiah, Jeremiah, and others.
Here we will look at why one may think the beast is the RCC, from the tribe of Dan, Islam, or what ever is on your minds.
I firmly believe it is Islam. I say this for many reason, yet the most impotent would be the description given in both Bible, and the Koran.
Let me first open by removing the RCC from this list. For any that think I am wrong, please point out why. Though I do pray the teaching has removed from ever ones mind by now. I will do this by looking at what the spirit of the anti-christ is, and what it will do.
1John 2:22-23 tells us that anyone that denies the reality of the Trinity, embodies the spirit of the anti-christ. The RCC teaches about the Trinity, so it can not be them. As do most religions that follow the true faith.
Knowing this the anti-christ will never give acknowledgement to the teaching. Rather he will mock it, Teaching that HaShem is to good to have a child with a mortal. Is this not what Islam does?
2John 1:7 calls the anti-christ a deceiver. So with the passages given, we find that the anti-christ will deny all of the following.
1 That Yeshua is the Savior of Israel and the world.
2 The trinity, or that Yeshua is the Son of HaShem.
3 That Yeshua is HaShem who came to earth in the flesh, and walked with us.
Does not Islam do all the above?
Rev.13:14 we find that the anti-christ, ( known here after as A.C.) is a deceiver. In the Koran we find that Allah brags about being Khayrul-Makireen. A literal t***slation of this is, The greatest of all deceivers.
Looks like a good place to stop for now, I have some things I must get done.

Barukh Attah Adonai, It is with a humble heart, and great care we undertake this topic. No man can lay claim to knowing all the answers, yet when many gather to loook at a thing, we are open to many ideas, and in them we can find the t***h, if simply let the Spirit be our guide. You told us you would send us a teacher, and a comforter. We all stand in agrement of this, and understand that to be the Spirit. Your Spirit is to be our only true teacher, so we ask that you will open our hearts, minds, and ears to what you have to say.
This we ask, and give thanks for in the Name of Yeshua HaMashiach.

Steve700

I believe you're right and through an economic collapse or some false f**g event martial law will take place with the executive orders of such a time of chaos coming into play allowing Obama to assume the powers of a dictator. For this reason I don't think Obama is going anywhere and will wind up becoming our dictator and probably the leader of the new world order after that. (The United Nations already has expressed that they want him to be) Expect the tribulations to begin as soon as you hear the words peace and safety combined with a 7 year peace agreement between Israel and Arab Muslims. In 3 1/2 years from that time the peace agreement is broken and the tribulations will kick off into high gear. Then Armageddon.

cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob

I totally agree. I follow Walid Shoebat and think like him. Although lately his going down the road with the RCC is disheartening. I wish he would stay on topic about Islam. Enough of the arguing about eschatology if you catch my drift.

poisonivory

I realized that Obama was a Muslim terrorist years ago. Just look at who he appoints. About the antichrist---I don't plan on knowing who he (or she) is because I'll be out of here.

Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

In one study I have done on this, we found that Armageddon may well be the chaos that brings about the 7 year treaty. After a sound defeat Islam would use that 3 1/2 years to rearm, and build their troops back up. So now you have me wandering what you seen that we may have missed. Do you mind sharing? After all that is an out look I have not considered. Thank you for our time in this. Keep in mind I may have many questions on it.
As for the rest, I agree 100%. Being an ex over the road driver, I have known about the guillotines for about 15 years now. As well as the fema camps. For any that hold doughs about them, I know drivers that have delivered them. I also know a driver now that is stoking the fema camps. True they make them sign a no disclosure. Funny when you can go on line and put in an app to work at them.
Add to that the UN now looking for some one to work out of New York, duties include, disarming, and reintegration. UN armor vehicles, legal indefinite detention of US citizens with out charging them, and last but not lest, the chipping of all US citizens. Makes for a lovely day in the neighborhood.
The mico chips can be used to control your ability to buy or sell. Obummercare has a perversion in the law giving the government power to close your bank account, or to sees it at will. What better way than to use that chip as your bank account?

Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

I hear you on that one.

Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

If I had to nail it down to one person, I say The Mahdi. That would be the Islam version of Yeshua.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Yes let's look at some End of World Predictions, great Idea:

The Vision (1973) by David Wilkerson predicted a worldwide economic depression. Nothing happened. So did his late 1990s book, "God's Plan to Protect His People in the Coming Depression", which encouraged Christians to stockpile the usual stuff. Nothing happened.
On March 7, 2009 he issued a new urgent prophecy direct from the Holy Spirit that "An earth-shattering calamity is about to happen...It will engulf the whole megaplex, including areas of New Jersey and Connecticut. Major cities all across America will experience r**ts and blazing fires – such as we saw in Watts, Los Angeles, years ago...There will be r**ts and fires in cities worldwide. There will be l**ting – including Times Square, New York City. What we are experiencing now is not a recession, not even a depression. We are under God’s wrath." Um, okay-not even close.
Somehow he missed predicting either 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, or the 2008 stock market crash though.

John Todd claimed that a conspiracy of witches and druids was in control of world events, and that they were about to enact a plan to stamp out "Bible-believing Christianity" and make witchcraft the official religion of the United States. He further claimed that he knew of all this because he himself had briefly been placed on the high council of the Illuminati, but then converted to born again Christianity and was now going to blow their cover and warn the Christian world of their plans. He appears to have gone through two periods on the evangelical circuit making these claims. During the early 1970s he was making the rounds among Pentecostal and Charismatic churches, the same grounds frequented by Mike Warnke. He reappeared during the late 1970s on the independent Baptist church circuit making the the same claims, and in addition denouncing the Charismatic movement as a creation of the Illuminati. In between he seems to have returned to witchcraft for a couple of years.
He was, for a short while in 1978-79, a hot topic in Christendom. The apparent reason seems to be because his "testimony" dovetailed nicely with conspiracy theories then being circulated by the religious right about then-President Jimmy Carter. John Todd said Jimmy Carter was the Illuminati's main man, who they intended to place in power as the Antichrist. Jimmy Carter was in fact a born-again Christian, but since when did the religious right let facts get in the way of their political agenda?
He also claims to have started Christian Rock as part of the Illuminati's plan to take over the churches with rock & roll's Satanic beat, with a $8 million (or $4 million - his testimony changed from time to time) dollar check from Illuminati/Witch HQ to Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel, which is just stupid.
Another fun allegation made by John Todd: "Phillip Rothschild ordered one of his mistresses to write an 1100-page book that would describe to all witches how they would take control of the World through the Illuminati: It's called Atlas Shrugged.

Next, Pat Robertson has prophesied that:
1980 would "be a year of sorrow and bloodshed that will have no end soon, for the world is being torn apart, and my [God's, not Pat's - at least we hope!] kingdom shall rise from the ruins of it."
The Great Tribulation would begin in October or November 1982, following an invasion of Israel by Russia
There would be a worldwide economic collapse in 1985
Jay Rockefeller (D-West By God Virginia) would be elected President of the United States in 1996. (Obviously he's a candidate for being the Antichrist, because, well, he's a Rockefeller.)
After his prophecy of 1982 failed to pass, he changed it to 2007, because 2007 is 40 years since the Six-Day War[wp] and 400 years since the founding of Jamestown, Virginia in 1607. Israel and the Six Day War often figure in date-setting attempts by End Times preachers, but what Jamestown has to do with it is anyone's guess (unless Pat thinks modern Virginia has a central role in the End Times due to his own inflated view of Virginia Beach-based CBN's importance in the overall scheme of things.)
So far his track record is 0 for 5, although to be generous one could say his 1980 prophecy was accurate inasmuch as the Iran-Iraq War and the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan both date from that year, with the consequences of both still playing out today with no end in sight.
It should be noted that Pat Robertson, unlike many evangelicals, does not believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. He believes the Second Coming of Jesus will be after a 7-year Great Tribulation, during which the Antichrist will rise to power and the prophecies in the Book of Daniel and Book of Revelation will take place.
In addition, Pat is strongly under the impression that Jews must convert to Christianity for the End Times to kick in. Whether the lack of this precondition has anything to do with his current piss-poor track record as a prophet is left strictly up to the reader.
On the other hand, it should be noted that Pat h**es direct competition, calling other would-be prophets "nutty" and their prophecies originating "from the pit of Hell", among other things.

I have more if you want....you guys are nothing but a bunch of jack offs that are trying to cause a civil war or worse. Go get a real job and shut your yap. I***t.

Steve700

You have it backwards. The seven-year agreement kicks off the tribulations and Armageddon had follow soon at the end of that seven years. It is it is prophesies that Russia will be assisting the Arabs in going against Israel, probably in the belief that due to the coming Israeli versus Muslim Arab chaos in the middle of the tribulations they will be mistakingly thinking that the only way to bring world peace is to get rid of Israel. It is in the health care bill plus Henry Kissinger has stated several times that chipping is to be in 2017 and probably will begin a little before that. With the New World order borders will be erased (that's why nothing has been done with the board or four years) and the chip will also be a means of tracking us. You become a problem and your chip gets turned off. I would put in "New World order", "Obama takeover", "tribulations", "seven-year peace agreement", "alien deception", "one world religion" "coming economic collapse " and "martial law " etc. in the YouTube address bar. There are tons of videos on all this stuff and that is an interesting way to learn what's been going on and what's coming.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

No moron, you have it wrong, your "betters" don't even get it right!

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Matthew 13:32

Buh Bye-shut your yap.

Steve700

Obama fits both the Mahdi and the antichrist. Lots of YouTube videos on both of this.

Steve700

That's right, no one knows or can predict exactly when. But there is a lot of indicators. The Bible also says that in the end times nothing in the way of information will be held back from you. I certainly have found that to be true but you have to be interested in t***h and be open and look for it. If you are just busy living your life and trying to enjoy it like most liberals, you're going to be oblivious to what's going on and with politics only interested in how the right is fucking up your world and trying to slow down the progress that you think being progressive is all about. The information that I have gotten into leads me to believe that the economic collapse will be here around the end of next year. Don't be so cocksure that it's not going to happen because it hasn't happened yet when many thought it would have by now. Anyone with a brain in their head knows that an economic collapse is inevitable. It can only continue to get worse and worse at this point and there is no longer the ability to fix it without unbelievably severe inflation which in itself will be a collapse. The Fed has been playing games to put it off but they can't stop it. It's like going to court where you can keep getting continuances and find legal games to put things off but eventually you have to pay the piper. Among the reasons to get a good handle on when the economic collapse, the tribulations, and Armageddon are going to take place, can be found by looking up and watching YouTube videos on the following: put these words in the YouTube address bar: Harbinger, Shemita, blood moons, Pope and new one world religion, economic collapse, martial law, Obama takeover. If you would just bothered to do that and watch about 15 hours worth of that stuff in the order I gave it you will note far far more than you do now and actually have a basis for an opinion. Don't make the mistake of dismissing YouTube videos as not being a good reliable source of information. Just watch this stuff; you'll find it entertaining, and then you can decide for yourself.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

An indication of the credibility of this form of rumor can be gauged by noting that the illustration used to accompany its most recent outbreak isn't a photograph of a real guillotine at all, but rather a picture of a satirical "Chanel guillotine" sculpture by artist Tom Sachs.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/guillotines.asp#rS5yoTCIjhUZoGRt.99

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

You guys are forgetting the Scriptures written in Revalations. There were four creatures with the Lamb. The Lamb being Christ. One was an eagle in flight, there is only one country in the world who chose the Eagle in flight as their symbol and that is the United States. The other one is a calf. Not sure who that represents, the third is a man, don't know who that represents but the Lion is Great Britain. Those two I am sure of. The Bear and the leopard is Russia and Germany.

Now, if the United States were against the "Lamb" then the Eagle mentioned in flight, which represents freedom, would not be presented. However it is. Same with the Lion, however if I am not mistaken, the Lion is also the symbol of Israel, so I am not sure there. We assume it is Great Britain. but It is shaky. Since its founding, in 1776, the animal that represents true freedom is the flying eagle. Not an eagle that has landed but one that is in flight. John specifically describes the eagle as being in flight. So even though we go back and forth with the pendulum, I believe we as a country shall remain faithful, however, there will be some intense moments. The d**gon is China.

This much I understand. However, the rest of it is shaky. I never thought that the Muslims would be the beast. Or is it possible that the N**is were the beast, but the Muslims took up the image of the beast?

I just want to throw that out there, and see what you all think. The past is easier to understand then the future.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

That must be Jehovah Witness book or something, I have heard of Revelations.....