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Jan 24, 2021 19:30:26   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Arya Stark wrote:
Yes, well, there are a few people who I trust enough to babysit my dog, but most people don't qualify.


To bad. For the dog.

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Jan 24, 2021 19:41:44   #
eden
 
JFlorio wrote:
Where do you get your information? There were no machine guns, rocket launchers, hand grenades, and flame throwers. Didn’t see any executions either. You’re as big a drama queen as AOC.


This is part of what I posted earlier in this thread:

“Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell et al had just been briefed on the threat level to the Inauguration based on a Security Analysis of the storming of the Capitol. The different groups who were represented in the r****rs included several w***e s*******y entities, the Klan, and various M*****as. Many of these groups have a stated intention to o*******w the legitimate government of the USA in their published manifesto. For years this crank nonsense was just muted bluster but in the assault on the Capitol, various firearms, pipe bombs and munitions were deployed. This was a serious escalation as some individuals, caught up in the prevailing lynch mob mentality and egged on by a rogue President tried to act-out their violent fantasies. There are multiple reports of some of these groups in possession of machine guns, rocket launchers, hand grenades and even home made flame throwers.....”

Loud verbal threats of executions were heard from the r****rs. Some were carrying zip ties of a type used by law enforcement to make mass arrests. There was a Gallows set up outside the building.

Try to keep up ok.

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Jan 24, 2021 21:14:54   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
eden wrote:
This is part of what I posted earlier in this thread:

“Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell et al had just been briefed on the threat level to the Inauguration based on a Security Analysis of the storming of the Capitol. The different groups who were represented in the r****rs included several w***e s*******y entities, the Klan, and various M*****as. Many of these groups have a stated intention to o*******w the legitimate government of the USA in their published manifesto. For years this crank nonsense was just muted bluster but in the assault on the Capitol, various firearms, pipe bombs and munitions were deployed. This was a serious escalation as some individuals, caught up in the prevailing lynch mob mentality and egged on by a rogue President tried to act-out their violent fantasies. There are multiple reports of some of these groups in possession of machine guns, rocket launchers, hand grenades and even home made flame throwers.....”

Loud verbal threats of executions were heard from the r****rs. Some were carrying zip ties of a type used by law enforcement to make mass arrests. There was a Gallows set up outside the building.

Try to keep up ok.
This is part of what I posted earlier in this thre... (show quote)


There wouldn't have been a problem on J****** 6 if the C*****l P****e had listened to the FBI warnings and assessment in the days prior to the r**t, and if the had accepted the offer of help from the FBI and National Guard.

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Jan 24, 2021 21:27:37   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I have been watching multiple newscasts since the r**t. Show me where their was Klan, w***e s*******y entities and possibly m*****as. M*****as generally carry weapons. I notice you conveniently left out A****A. None of the weaponry you describe was used at the capital. Since you brought it up, why did Pelosi refuse additional security?this was a r**t plain and simple. No one knows yet who brought the pipe bombs. I**********ns tend to be much larger and contain well armed members and generally dissatisfied military members. You are a drama queen and intellectually dishonest. Not a word from you all summer condemning the r**ts, k*****gs, and l**ting.
eden wrote:
This is part of what I posted earlier in this thread:

“Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell et al had just been briefed on the threat level to the Inauguration based on a Security Analysis of the storming of the Capitol. The different groups who were represented in the r****rs included several w***e s*******y entities, the Klan, and various M*****as. Many of these groups have a stated intention to o*******w the legitimate government of the USA in their published manifesto. For years this crank nonsense was just muted bluster but in the assault on the Capitol, various firearms, pipe bombs and munitions were deployed. This was a serious escalation as some individuals, caught up in the prevailing lynch mob mentality and egged on by a rogue President tried to act-out their violent fantasies. There are multiple reports of some of these groups in possession of machine guns, rocket launchers, hand grenades and even home made flame throwers.....”

Loud verbal threats of executions were heard from the r****rs. Some were carrying zip ties of a type used by law enforcement to make mass arrests. There was a Gallows set up outside the building.

Try to keep up ok.
This is part of what I posted earlier in this thre... (show quote)

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Jan 24, 2021 21:30:21   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Kickaha wrote:
There wouldn't have been a problem on J****** 6 if the C*****l P****e had listened to the FBI warnings and assessment in the days prior to the r**t, and if the had accepted the offer of help from the FBI and National Guard.


I guess eden is O.K. when B*M chants what do we want? Dead cops. Progressives are the biggest hypocrites in the world.

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Jan 24, 2021 22:13:55   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
I have been watching multiple newscasts since the r**t. Show me where their was Klan, w***e s*******y entities and possibly m*****as. M*****as generally carry weapons. I notice you conveniently left out A****A. None of the weaponry you describe was used at the capital. Since you brought it up, why did Pelosi refuse additional security?this was a r**t plain and simple. No one knows yet who brought the pipe bombs. I**********ns tend to be much larger and contain well armed members and generally dissatisfied military members. You are a drama queen and intellectually dishonest. Not a word from you all summer condemning the r**ts, k*****gs, and l**ting.
I have been watching multiple newscasts since the ... (show quote)


She's just repeating what she's been programmed to repeat just like all of em.
Ever notice how EVERY network uses the EXACT same words, and phrases, and these people repeat it like it's gospel?

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Jan 24, 2021 22:41:02   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
archie bunker wrote:
She's just repeating what she's been programmed to repeat just like all of em.
Ever notice how EVERY network uses the EXACT same words, and phrases, and these people repeat it like it's gospel?


True. We have a country of parrots.

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Jan 24, 2021 22:54:30   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
True. We have a country of parrots.


It's pretty bad in my opinion. In life in general, you can't believe a ton of what you hear. Now, the media has a lock on it, and that's all people hear. So they believe it.
I can't understand why independent thought has gone by the wayside.

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Jan 24, 2021 23:04:32   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
archie bunker wrote:
It's pretty bad in my opinion. In life in general, you can't believe a ton of what you hear. Now, the media has a lock on it, and that's all people hear. So they believe it.
I can't understand why independent thought has gone by the wayside.


It's very simple to understand. Schools discourage independent thought, all thought must conform to their groupthink. They no longer teach how to think, but instead they teach what to think. While the media parrots the 'official line', they are also shutting down contrary opinion.

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Jan 24, 2021 23:10:23   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Kickaha wrote:
It's very simple to understand. Schools discourage independent thought, all thought must conform to their groupthink. They no longer teach how to think, but instead they teach what to think. While the media parrots the 'official line', they are also shutting down contrary opinion.


That's a bullseye right there!

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Jan 24, 2021 23:36:03   #
random3
 
Most of the problems of today would be solved by embracing what worked in the past.

People were born in the past without birth certificates.

People could travel without passports.

People can learn how to drive without driver licenses.

People could travel without being groped by the TSA.

The government does not need to wiretap people.

Businesses that do not have business licenses will go bankrupt if they provide bad service.

People will not starve if they do not have food stamps.

People can find cheap doctors in the world without Obamacare.

People will not have a vested interest in driving dangerously if there are no liability insurance laws.

People could carry guns, no one had Social Security numbers, and there were no sales, income, or property taxes in the past.

Drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling, prostitution, sodas, protesting, and mosques were legal before, why can't they be legal now?

The US did not torture in the past, why does the US need to torture now?

The USA had open borders before, why must the US have closed borders now?

If self-serve gas stations can be legal in one place, why can't they be legal everywhere?

If seeing eye dogs are legal in restaurants, why can't all dogs be legal in restaurants?

Would crime rise if everything was legal?

Why do you need the government anyway? Can’t you talk to people who bother you? Could you sue someone? Could you just move away? Can't you protect yourself?

Think.

A free country that went to war with a evil dictatorship should not become a police state. Thieves cannot take the moral high ground and criticize robbers.

The USA is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state now.

Americans have learned nothing from history.

Americans have no rights anymore and the US is no longer a democracy.

Americans think every problem should be solved by decree and force now, but every solution causes another problem.

Americans think the government is made up of holy men. Americans think anyone becomes a saint when they wear a costume, badge, and a gun.

The solution for problems should be what worked in the past.

Americans say that rent control should be used to reduce high rents instead of reducing regulations.

When regulations lead to a bad economy, Americans think that the homeless should be put in jail and businesses should be given bailouts.

Instead of allowing people to feed the homeless, Americans think feeding the homeless should be outlawed.

Instead of getting rid of welfare that encourages girls to marry the state instead of a man and leads to broken families, Americans think food stamps should be expanded.

Instead of getting rid of minimum wages that cripple the ability of the US to compete on the world market, Americans think the US should increase the minimum wage and start a trade war by enacting tariffs.

When food stamps lead to increased debt, Americans think that taxes should be raised.

Americans think the only way to attend college is to have student loans, but student loans raise the cost of tuition.

Instead of ending wars that lead to terrorism, tyranny, debt, and refugees, Americans think that the wars should be increased.

Instead of arresting sex traffickers, Americans would rather shut down free speech and prostitution.

Americans would rather ban video games instead of arresting murderers.

Instead of allowing the free market to decide what companies are good, Americans would rather shut down monopolies.

Instead of educating people, Americans would rather jail people for using their own property in the wrong way.

Central planning has failed everywhere. China used to encourage people to have kids, but after China became overpopulated, China had an one-child policy.

The USA is supposed to be a free country. The reason the Americans fought the British was because Americans wanted to be free.

When our overlords make a decree, they always sell it as a minor temporary law that only affects Muslims, junkies, sex offenders, homosexuals, i*****l i*******ts, or b****s. The 1% doesn’t mention that the law will become permanent and more draconian.

No one cares if owning cows are illegal, yoga pants are illegal, teen driving is illegal, or smoking is illegal. The problem is what happens when your job is banned, the government steals your house, tortures your family, or sends you to the concentration camps.

Are you just going to take it?

If tyranny is so wonderful then why do people try to escape North Korea?

Would you rather be locked in a padded room wearing a strait-jacket and have safety or be homeless on a mountain and have freedom?

The elites are trying today to make Americans dependent children by outlawing everything and giving them food stamps. Once Americans are weakened and the US Ponzi economy implodes, the ruling class will then send the 99% off to the gulags to be starved and k**led.

Governments are not kind. Governments have k**led millions of people in N**i concentration camps, Soviet gulags, the Chinese Great Leap Forward, and the Cambodian k*****g fields.

Liberty is not something that only benefits other people, but not you. Freedom benefits everyone.

Tyranny is not something that only punishes other people, but not you. Tyranny punishes everyone.

Freedom is good.

Tyranny is bad.

This is no joke.

History repeats and the signs are everywhere.

Anyone who supports the government is just a tool of the elites.

Wake up.

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Jan 25, 2021 01:25:40   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
random3 wrote:
Most of the problems of today would be solved by embracing what worked in the past.

People were born in the past without birth certificates.

People could travel without passports.

People can learn how to drive without driver licenses.

People could travel without being groped by the TSA.

The government does not need to wiretap people.

Businesses that do not have business licenses will go bankrupt if they provide bad service.

People will not starve if they do not have food stamps.

People can find cheap doctors in the world without Obamacare.

People will not have a vested interest in driving dangerously if there are no liability insurance laws.

People could carry guns, no one had Social Security numbers, and there were no sales, income, or property taxes in the past.

Drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling, prostitution, sodas, protesting, and mosques were legal before, why can't they be legal now?

The US did not torture in the past, why does the US need to torture now?

The USA had open borders before, why must the US have closed borders now?

If self-serve gas stations can be legal in one place, why can't they be legal everywhere?

If seeing eye dogs are legal in restaurants, why can't all dogs be legal in restaurants?

Would crime rise if everything was legal?

Why do you need the government anyway? Can’t you talk to people who bother you? Could you sue someone? Could you just move away? Can't you protect yourself?

Think.

A free country that went to war with a evil dictatorship should not become a police state. Thieves cannot take the moral high ground and criticize robbers.

The USA is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state now.

Americans have learned nothing from history.

Americans have no rights anymore and the US is no longer a democracy.

Americans think every problem should be solved by decree and force now, but every solution causes another problem.

Americans think the government is made up of holy men. Americans think anyone becomes a saint when they wear a costume, badge, and a gun.

The solution for problems should be what worked in the past.

Americans say that rent control should be used to reduce high rents instead of reducing regulations.

When regulations lead to a bad economy, Americans think that the homeless should be put in jail and businesses should be given bailouts.

Instead of allowing people to feed the homeless, Americans think feeding the homeless should be outlawed.

Instead of getting rid of welfare that encourages girls to marry the state instead of a man and leads to broken families, Americans think food stamps should be expanded.

Instead of getting rid of minimum wages that cripple the ability of the US to compete on the world market, Americans think the US should increase the minimum wage and start a trade war by enacting tariffs.

When food stamps lead to increased debt, Americans think that taxes should be raised.

Americans think the only way to attend college is to have student loans, but student loans raise the cost of tuition.

Instead of ending wars that lead to terrorism, tyranny, debt, and refugees, Americans think that the wars should be increased.

Instead of arresting sex traffickers, Americans would rather shut down free speech and prostitution.

Americans would rather ban video games instead of arresting murderers.

Instead of allowing the free market to decide what companies are good, Americans would rather shut down monopolies.

Instead of educating people, Americans would rather jail people for using their own property in the wrong way.

Central planning has failed everywhere. China used to encourage people to have kids, but after China became overpopulated, China had an one-child policy.

The USA is supposed to be a free country. The reason the Americans fought the British was because Americans wanted to be free.

When our overlords make a decree, they always sell it as a minor temporary law that only affects Muslims, junkies, sex offenders, homosexuals, i*****l i*******ts, or b****s. The 1% doesn’t mention that the law will become permanent and more draconian.

No one cares if owning cows are illegal, yoga pants are illegal, teen driving is illegal, or smoking is illegal. The problem is what happens when your job is banned, the government steals your house, tortures your family, or sends you to the concentration camps.

Are you just going to take it?

If tyranny is so wonderful then why do people try to escape North Korea?

Would you rather be locked in a padded room wearing a strait-jacket and have safety or be homeless on a mountain and have freedom?

The elites are trying today to make Americans dependent children by outlawing everything and giving them food stamps. Once Americans are weakened and the US Ponzi economy implodes, the ruling class will then send the 99% off to the gulags to be starved and k**led.

Governments are not kind. Governments have k**led millions of people in N**i concentration camps, Soviet gulags, the Chinese Great Leap Forward, and the Cambodian k*****g fields.

Liberty is not something that only benefits other people, but not you. Freedom benefits everyone.

Tyranny is not something that only punishes other people, but not you. Tyranny punishes everyone.

Freedom is good.

Tyranny is bad.

This is no joke.

History repeats and the signs are everywhere.

Anyone who supports the government is just a tool of the elites.

Wake up.
Most of the problems of today would be solved by e... (show quote)


Use the quote reply button so we may know to whom you are replying. Some points you make are good, some are quite naive, a few may even border on lunacy, but at least you're trying to come up with ideas.
We have three choices:
1) We do nothing, just roll over and the game is over. That's not an option.
2) Have a revolution and o*******w the government. The majority are not ready for this option.
3) The last option is to fight within the system. Backing legislation to reverse these tyrannical policies. Electing like minded individuals to office who support our goals. Stop this reelecting politicians just because they are getting seniority. If they aren't doing the job, we need to tell them you're fired and v**e in someone else to get the job done.
Term limits sound good, but you lose good people by doing so just to get rid of bad politicians. Not all goverments are inherently evil, but any government can slide into evil if good people don't hold their leaders accountable. The patriot act should be allowed to expire or be repealed. No more 1000+ page bills that have to be passed before we can find out what is in it. Remember, Hitler did not seize power in Germany. He was elected to office legally and was appointed, again legally, chancellor. He then persuaded the Bundestag to give him temporary powers to make laws unilaterally. He said it was for five years, but once he had the power there was no one who could force him to give it back as promised.

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Jan 25, 2021 02:27:13   #
random3
 
Exactly.

Everything changes in a police state.

The friendly Gestapo who once only arrested robbers and murderers is now also responsible for jailing Christians, beggars, smokers, protestors, reporters, lawyers, parents, business people, pet owners, bank customers, gun owners, and pedestrians.

The law-abiding citizen no longer can obey the law because everything is illegal.

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Jan 25, 2021 11:27:46   #
okie don
 
random3 wrote:
Exactly.

Everything changes in a police state.

The friendly Gestapo who once only arrested robbers and murderers is now also responsible for jailing Christians, beggars, smokers, protestors, reporters, lawyers, parents, business people, pet owners, bank customers, gun owners, and pedestrians.

The law-abiding citizen no longer can obey the law because everything is illegal.


" Ignorance of the law is no excuse"...
Problem is there are 1000's of them. Impossible to know them all.

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Jan 25, 2021 23:50:15   #
eden
 
Kickaha wrote:
There wouldn't have been a problem on J****** 6 if the C*****l P****e had listened to the FBI warnings and assessment in the days prior to the r**t, and if the had accepted the offer of help from the FBI and National Guard.


Agreed, but what does that have to do with whether or not there was a credible threat
of machine guns, hand grenades and flame throwers in the hands of extremist groups?

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