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Nov 17, 2020 22:51:09   #
DASHY
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Now you see, that is a problem. Trump's lawyer filed suite (in PA) not for fraud deliberately committed by citizen(s), but rater error in law. Pretty damn stupid, but there is no way, without cooperation of the state, to prove any individual was not eligible to v**e. They went with the readily available and wart on the nose complaint. That is, a disproportionate number of democrat v**ers were given an opportunity to "cure" their b****ts giving the democrats an unfair advantage. The judge, James Crumlish, asked questions that focused on individual deliberate citizen fraud, and ruled based on those answers only. Smart judge who protected the democrats that put him on the bench. It would have helped to had a republican judge with more than 11 month tenure. But, at least in PA, the loss by the Trump team was not about evidence, but rather the grounds for relief.
Now you see, that is a problem. Trump's lawyer fi... (show quote)


The problem is Trump has NO EVIDENCE.

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Nov 17, 2020 22:56:45   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
DASHY wrote:
The problem is Trump has NO EVIDENCE.


So much for discussions on the subject!

I now believe that 99 percent of liberals/progressives are incapable of discussing matters. Their minds appear to be stunted and closed. The moment you think you are getting close to middle ground and establishing a connection, they flip to preprogrammed party lines.

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Nov 17, 2020 23:24:51   #
Wolfman888
 
Simple Sam wrote:
What evidence would hold up in court? There are eyewitnesses and affidavits. Would that be sufficient? B****ts, once received, becomes a yes or no and reduced to numbers. Unless states provide copies of cast b****ts, they remain secret. States will not provide the data and courts will not order them to do so. That means this e******n will always be haunted and known as an illegitimate and overshadowed as fraudulent.

Now will you answer my question?

As for the rest of your comment, not worthy of comment.
What evidence would hold up in court? There are e... (show quote)


So far, they are obviously not.

Even judges appointed by Trump are saying that there is no there there.

Illegitimate and fraudulent by morons that do not understand

what real evidence in a court of law consists of.

From your comments, I believe that you are one.

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Nov 18, 2020 05:23:04   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
DASHY wrote:
Six in Ten Americans back a $15.00 minimum wage. It is refreshing to know our new president is looking out for the interests of American workers. I feel better already.


And 4 out of 5 Americans have no understanding of economics.

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Nov 18, 2020 07:02:09   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
DASHY wrote:
Six in Ten Americans back a $15.00 minimum wage. It is refreshing to know our new president is looking out for the interests of American workers. I feel better already.


The Unintended Consequences Of Raising Minimum Wage To $15
Raising the minimum wage has a number of serious and negative unintended consequences. Employers, especially small family and midsize businesses, will be disproportionately hurt by the extra costs incurred. The local neighborhood stores and businesses with razor-thin profits will be forced to raise prices to make up for the addition labor costs. With the increased prices, customers may elect to take their business elsewhere. Losing customers means losing income, which could result in the business having to layoff workers.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2019/07/10/the-unintended-consequences-of-the-15-minimum-wage/?sh=15c4faa7e4a7

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Nov 18, 2020 07:40:16   #
roy
 
Simple Sam wrote:
The idea of raising the minimum wage is noble and commendable, but many of the arguments rely upon raw emotion and neglect sound economic ramifications that will adversely impact the same people it's trying to help.

Raising the minimum wage has a number of serious and negative unintended consequences. Employers, especially small family and midsize businesses, will be disproportionately hurt by the extra costs incurred. The local neighborhood stores and businesses with razor-thin profits will be forced to raise prices to make up for the addition labor costs. Most will not survive.

Large corporations with big budgets will weigh the increased labor costs and elect to invest in technology to displace workers. This is already the norm at bi box stores, grocery, and target...it is called self check out. Amazon recently opened up several prototype Amazon Go stores that are self described as “a new kind of store featuring the world's most advanced shopping technology. No lines, no checkout—just grab and go!” Fast food chains and large department stores will follow suit and implement self-service checkout to save costs. Corporate executives will recognize that the $15 per hour could be routinely raised. They will weigh the future unknown costs associated with additional increases, coupled with the ever-increasing insurance costs, plus the time-consuming task of finding employees, training them and dealing with turnover. It's easier and less expensive to have technology take over.

As we settle into isolation and lockdowns, the only people doing semi-manual labor will be the one's pulling orders for on line shopping.
The idea of raising the minimum wage is noble and ... (show quote)


And if they lowered the minimum wage to 5.00 dollars an ,hour,what would be happening? Same thing business is doing right now.Just whose fault is it for stores putting in fast check out lanes? Its stupid Americans for falling for it.That's what stores want you to do makes them more money. They want you to do your own check out sack your own ,groceries, and people fell for it,next they will have you stocking their shelves

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Nov 18, 2020 07:56:58   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
roy wrote:
And if they lowered the minimum wage to 5.00 dollars an ,hour, what would be happening? Same thing business is doing right now. Just whose fault is it for stores putting in fast check out lanes? Its stupid Americans for falling for it. That's what stores want you to do makes them more money. They want you to do your own check out sack your own ,groceries, and people fell for it, next they will have you stocking their shelves


Not stocking shelves (insurance would go up). Mr. Model-T, is now stocking shelves at a FamilyMart convenience store in Japan and on Its way to the USA. By introducing Model-T into stores, FamilyMart store staff will be able to work in multiple stores from a remote location, which will help solve challenges around labor shortage and help create new job opportunities. It will also lead to the reduction of human-to-human contact to help prevent the spread of C****-**.

Minimum wage, once signed into law, can't be lowered and an employee can't work for less. Enter the illegal or "undocumented" who works and is paid 'under the table.' Yet the 'cost' for services will be passed onto the customer.



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Nov 18, 2020 08:35:21   #
American Vet
 
roy wrote:
And if they lowered the minimum wage to 5.00 dollars an ,hour,what would be happening? Same thing business is doing right now.Just whose fault is it for stores putting in fast check out lanes? Its stupid Americans for falling for it.That's what stores want you to do makes them more money. They want you to do your own check out sack your own ,groceries, and people fell for it,next they will have you stocking their shelves


And who forces people to patronize those stores?

Don't like it - go somewhere else.

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Nov 18, 2020 08:50:18   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
American Vet wrote:
And who forces people to patronize those stores?

Don't like it - go somewhere else.


With the closing of Mom and Pops, all is left are big box stores. Most big box are going to self checkout. Where is left to go?

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Nov 18, 2020 08:51:02   #
MatthewlovesAyn Loc: Ohio
 
proud republican wrote:
Biden wants to raise minimum wage to 15.00/hr!! Sounds good , right?? But can small businesses afford to keep all their employees and still pay them $15.00???


The minimum wage law is and always was a piece of idiocy. Here is someone smarter than me to explain it in just over a minute.

https://youtu.be/Y97UqMZvvIE

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Nov 18, 2020 08:58:07   #
MatthewlovesAyn Loc: Ohio
 
DASHY wrote:
Six in Ten Americans back a $15.00 minimum wage. It is refreshing to know our new president is looking out for the interests of American workers. I feel better already.


Three quarters of the states ratified the 18th amendment (prohibition). That didn't make it right or smart. That's why the founders made us a republic and not a democracy.

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Nov 18, 2020 09:01:47   #
DASHY
 
Kickaha wrote:
And 4 out of 5 Americans have no understanding of economics.


You don't have to study economics to know that if you are working at a job that pays $7.25 per hour you are dirt poor.

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Nov 18, 2020 09:32:36   #
American Vet
 
DASHY wrote:
You don't have to study economics to know that if you are working at a job that pays $7.25 per hour you are dirt poor.


Then get a better job.

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Nov 18, 2020 09:33:37   #
American Vet
 
Simple Sam wrote:
With the closing of Mom and Pops, all is left are big box stores. Most big box are going to self checkout. Where is left to go?


Plenty of small stores around. There are obviously not as many as before.

But - why did the 'Mom and Pop' stores close?

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Nov 18, 2020 09:43:01   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
American Vet wrote:
And who forces people to patronize those stores?

Don't like it - go somewhere else.


Lolol too much common sense ....

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