permafrost Loc: Minnesota

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I agree with the secure borders. After I exchanged a few posts with Old Roy, I did a bit cking, and felt that rotating the NG was a good and workable idea. Now I find they can do nothing but stand around and watch from the shade..

At the moment, I think I agree with the conservative idea of, "secure the border, then amend the bill" But am also subject to a change as I have not paid attention to this in the past..

Sicilianthing

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Another patient in New York now off the plane from West Africa, being tested...
Spread the word...
The S**T is about go through the fan!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

First I'd like to Thank all of you for the excellent posts thus far and share with you this article I found informative...Do I think its not likely to hit the States?? Not as quickly as the problems coming across the border, but I can not dismiss that this cold very well hit the States as well....Nigeria "trying to trace back 30,000 people that could be infected?? Really?? yet, we're told this isn't likely to hit the states?? Based on what?? A slanting news media that works hand in hand with a corrupt government that lies through their teeth??

Genicide?? I don't know right now..But I do believe there is a lot more to than we're being told..


Ido not trust this government to handle anything safely..Have we not read enough about all the recent blunders in t***sferring highly contagious materials that protocol as established was not followed?? I've got more than a few links on it if anyone is interested..

Anyway, here's this tid bit of information ~~
When it gets here in the USA...here's what is the potential to happen...

What will happen when Ebola comes to America...

Snip..."
If Ebola comes to America and starts spreading, one of the first things that would happen would be for the CDC to issue "a federal isolation or quarantine order". The following is what the CDC website says about what could happen under such an order...
Quote :
Isolation and quarantine are public health practices used to stop or limit the spread of disease.
Isolation is used to separate ill persons who have a communicable disease from those who are healthy. Isolation restricts the movement of ill persons to help stop the spread of certain diseases. For example, hospitals use isolation for patients with infectious tuberculosis.
Quarantine is used to separate and restrict the movement of well persons who may have been exposed to a communicable disease to see if they become ill. These people may have been exposed to a disease and do not know it, or they may have the disease but do not show symptoms. Quarantine can also help limit the spread of communicable disease.
Isolation and quarantine are used to protect the public by preventing exposure to infected persons or to persons who may be infected.
In addition to serving as medical functions, isolation and quarantine also are “police power” functions, derived from the right of the state to take action affecting individuals for the benefit of society.
"Isolation" would not be a voluntary thing. The federal government would start hunting down anyone that they "reasonably believed to be infected with a communicable disease" and taking them to the facilities where other patients were being held. It wouldn't matter if you were entirely convinced that you were 100% healthy. If the government wanted to take you in, you would have no rights in that situation. In fact, federal law would allow the government to detain you "for such time and in such manner as may be reasonably necessary".
And once you got locked up with all of the other Ebola patients, there would be a pretty good chance that you would end up getting the disease and dying anyway. The current Ebola outbreak has a 55 percent percent mortality rate, and experts tell us that the mortality rate for Ebola can be as high as 90 percent."

Britain has already issued alerts...

Brits issue alert..

Snip..."
Fears of a global Ebola p******c are 'justified' an expert has said as Nigerian health officials try to trace 30,000 people at risk of contracting the deadly disease following the death of Patrick Sawyer.

The U.S. citizen boarded a flight in Liberia carrying the disease to Nigeria, potentially infecting 'anyone on the same plane'.
It comes as Nigerian actor Jim Iyke sparked outrage, posting a picture of himself wearing an Ebola mask while sitting in a first class airport lounge as he fled Liberia.

The 'Nollywood' star posted a message on his Instagram page saying he had cut short a business trip to Monrovia in Liberia - where at least 600 people have already died from the disease.
The death toll for this, the worst outbreak recorded since the Ebola v***s was discovered in 1976, stands at 672, while more than 1,200 people have been infected.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

And this is exactly why I say I do not trust our government at all...Keeping it on the hush until its hit world wide concern is criminal to all of us!! Gave We, the People, absolutely no forewarning of this potential and in fact left us to risk infection...


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2710285/Ebola-test-feverish-man-flew-Britain-West-Africa-doctors-red-alert-deadly-v***s.html#ixzz390gfstrD


And of course, our wonderful, t***sparent government did some preparing just this past April...but didn't bother to inform the rest of us peons...I know its redundant, but it needs to be said...


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Federal authorities seem to have been preparing for such an outbreak for quite a while. As my good friend Mac Slavo has pointed out, "biological diagnostic systems" were distributed to National Guard units in all 50 states back in April...

Quote :
The Department of Defense informed Congress that it has deployed biological diagnostic systems to National Guard support teams in all 50 states, according to a report published by the Committee on Armed Services. The report, published in April amid growing fears that the Ebola hemorrhagic fever v***s might spread outside of West Africa, says that the portable systems are designed for “low probability, high consequence” scenarios.
Some 340 Joint Biological Agent Identification and Diagnostic System (JBAIDS) units have thus far been given to emergency response personnel. The systems are “rapid, reliable, and [provide] simultaneous identification of specific biological agents and pathogens,” says executive officer for the DOD’s Chemical and Biological Defense group Carmen J. Spencer.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

As we all know there, presently is no antibody for Ebola, but it doesn't mean there can't be or may be in the future..Check out this Dr's efforts..Many kudos to him!!!

NBC - http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-v***s-outbreak/only-enough-one-experimental-ebola-serum-used-u-s-patient-n169626 wrote:
A dose of “experimental serum” arrived in Liberia to be tried on a U.S. charity worker struggling for her life — but there was only enough for one of the two infected workers, so Dr. Kent Brantly asked that it be used on his colleague, the group Samaritan’s Purse said Thursday.

Dr. Brantly, a doctor with the group who was also infected, tried an alternative treatment, using blood t***sfused from a young survivor of the v***s.

“Yesterday, an experimental serum arrived in the country, but there was only enough for one person. Dr. Brantly asked that it be given to Nancy Writebol,” Franklin Graham, president of Samaritan’s Purse, said in a statement. “However, Dr. Brantly received a unit of blood from a 14-year-old boy who had survived Ebola because of Dr. Brantly’s care. The young boy and his family wanted to be able to help the doctor that saved his life.”

And I'm sure we all know the symptoms by now but putting this in anyway....

Symptoms include high fever, bleeding and central nervous system damage
Fatality rate can reach 90%
Incubation period is two to 21 days
There is no v*****e or cure
Supportive care such as rehydrating patients who have diarrhoea and vomiting can help recovery
Fruit bats are considered to be v***s' natural host

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

I believe he had them brought here so they can deliberately allow the v***s loose in the public domain by accident of course

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Linda, as a worrier and personwith children of all ages to think about. I have followed this Ebola since about 1990.

This current ourbreak has been well reported By a number of newserveses from its inception,.

It is good to hear that we are getting well prepared for any (not only Ebola) outbrack. In our country we have excellent medical centers in every paret of the nation. From these were selected centers well prepared for a possable pendemic of any sort. These were shown on a map that Patty posted this morning or last night..

It is also comforting to know that Ebola is very hard to catch. needs body fluid contact. We can not get it from shaking hands or riding on an airplane with a carrier..

All in all, I am much more concerned that something could come across the border with the mass of incoming youths..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Linda, as a worrier and person with children of all ages to think about. I have followed this Ebola since about 1990.

This current outbreak has been well reported By a number of news services from its inception,.

It is good to hear that we are getting well prepared for any (not only Ebola) outback. In our country we have excellent medical centers in every part of the nation. From these were selected centers well prepared for a possible p******c of any sort. These were shown on a map that Patty posted this morning or last night..

It is also comforting to know that Ebola is very hard to catch. needs body fluid contact. We can not get it from shaking hands or riding on an airplane with a carrier..

All in all, I am much more concerned that something could come across the border with the mass of incoming youths..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Lindajoy, both these people got a dose of the new drug, both in Atlanta and both recovering...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Hi and Thank You for your thoughtful post...I concur as I said about the difficulties in it but let me ask you something..I sneeze, and we know a sneeze can spread up to 500 ft, is that a bodily fluid when it makes contact with your body??

And yes, its a very good thing we are "now" taking steps setting up centers to handle "if" anything were to happen, but don't you have to ask, if they are telling us we have little to fear, why are they now, all of a sudden and on the heals of this epidemic hitting catastrophe levels moving forward?? Why weren't these set up before?? Is it because that "before time" didn't have any threat? And now we do?? just playing devils advocate here..

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Did you also read about the "rumors" that this strain was resurrected" for chemical warfare" and intentionally placed by the hamas, along with the now known Cholera outbreak in Africa??

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Yes, I read that too and was going to post on it but dang, if I can find it now...Lolol

That Dr. saved the life of that little boy and he may just be the one that saves the world from this epidemic.......
:thumbup: :thumbup:

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Linda, I had/have that same question. Never got a yes or no answer, but did get a "nothing to worry about" reply. So while I am still concerned, the eye witness reports that I read all talked of vomiting, blood, waste, and general internal fluids rather than coughs and sneezes.. I think that all means that I am not sure if we should be concerned or not... I am not...

Preparedness.... Your point is well taken but I do recall being a little kid in the 50s and local Drs did have radiation medication for when the bomb came down..So I believe that preparedness has been with us but not given much exposure. Did that flu like problem have meds distributed? SARS of MARS of something... also flu shots should be included I think..

I hope we are as well prepared for a collection of diseases from the south..

Thunder

Yup The So-called Pres. / Congress / Senate are prepared that's why their all going on vacation . Go figure .