Ve'hoe

Except I suppose that your facts are garbage...here are two actual examples that debunk the "logic" that you used.

"Massachusetts has a national reputation as a bastion of gun control, but crimes and injuries related to firearms have risen — sometimes dramatically — since the state passed a comprehensive package of gun laws in 1998.

Murders committed with firearms have increased significantly, aggravated assaults and robberies involving guns have risen, and gunshot injuries are up, according to FBI and state data."

"Murder and violent crime rates were supposed to soar after the Supreme Court struck down gun control laws in Chicago and Washington, D.C.
Politicians predicted disaster. "More handguns in the District of Columbia will only lead to more handgun violence," Washington’s Mayor Adrian Fenty warned the day the court made its decision.

Chicago’s Mayor Daley predicted that we would "go back to the Old West, you have a gun and I have a gun and we'll settle it in the streets . . . ."

The New York Times even editorialized this month about the Supreme Court's "unwise" decision that there is a right for people "to keep guns in the home."

But Armageddon never happened. Newly released data for Chicago shows that, as in Washington, murder and gun crime rates didn't rise after the bans were eliminated -- they plummeted. They have fallen much more than the national crime rate.
Not surprisingly, the national media have been completely silent about this news.
One can only imagine the coverage if crime rates had risen. In the first six months of this year, there were 14% fewer murders in Chicago compared to the first six months of last year – back when owning handguns was illegal. It was the largest drop in Chicago’s murder rate since the handgun ban went into effect in 1982. "

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Sarcasm has its value if for no other reason than to express your point without using the kind of language that will get you thrown off the site. That is almost as bad as AuntiE's frying pan!

Patty

No gun crimes were 1.6 million in 93 and .6 million in 2011. Unintention firearms incidents are down 58%. If 43% of US homes say they have firearms in their homes you can probably add another 20% to that since most people will not answer that question and rightfully so since it is no ones business. You should have watched the video before commenting.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Patty,
Notice that Peter S and a number like him assume that most gun owners are paranoid.

Nest time a pack of coyotes is standing in my driveway I think I will call him to come and talk the beasts into going away. How do you think that would work?

Patty

Maybe he can quote numbers from one of his proggy websites and magically turn them into laughing hyienas just rolling on the ground laughing. That might work.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Hey, here's another thing criminals forget to factor when planning a crime ( I am assuming a modicum intelligence exists in them :shock: ). How many are unaware of the deadly consequences of attempting to assault military veterans? I've known a few folk who could drop you with a single finger ( I can attest to it's effectiveness personally ) and/or k**l you with a rock thrown from 25 feet.

I have noticed a remarkable lack of crime in areas frequented by Vets and neighborhoods where they live. I remember a VFW in Florida that armed men attempted to rob, one night in 1983. The would be criminals walked into the police station, on their own feet, wearing their under under britches on their heads and one finger stuck up their asses. It seems that, after a short discussion, the criminals found that humiliation easier to live with than the alternative we gave them.

It may be that, any reduction in crime rates ( which I don't see ), could be due to the marked increase in the number of Veterans.

Patty

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Some are just not to bright either,

semper-fi Loc: Corrupticut

UH OH Long Timer, you know what they say about folks when they start repeating themselves don't you?? :D :)

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

I do appear to suffer that affliction don't I? :lol:

Ve'hoe

Actually,,, I would rather have the coyotes than peterS

Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon

Patty I haven't even looked and I know crime has gone down! Now I will look at the rest. :mrgreen:

semper-fi Loc: Corrupticut

There's a cure for that you know you know you know. :-) :XD: :mrgreen: :thumbup:

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Si, si, si, si, si, si, si, si, si, si, but what is it it it it it it?

Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

What do I have to be paranoid about if I have a gun?? I mean for real a good 44mag give me a big reason not to be.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

That isn't a gun, that's a flaming cannon. :lol: :lol: :lol: