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Oct 16, 2020 10:28:38   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Actually they don't really conflict but people who question the bible want them to conflict. There is a sensible answer but you are obviously not open to it nor have you bothered to look into it.


What is the sensible answer???

Please share

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Oct 16, 2020 10:40:52   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
What Bible to you prefer?


In Bible study I would always use the King James and NIV, but there are others that I could live with.

I have yet to see a true contradiction in the Bible, just different opinions of translations.

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Oct 16, 2020 10:47:47   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
TexaCan wrote:
In Bible study I would always use the King James and NIV, but there are others that I could live with.

I have yet to see a true contradiction in the Bible, just different opinions of translations.


How do you explain the conflicting accounts found in Matthew 20, Mark 16, Luke 24, and John 20????

I assume it is human error...

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Oct 16, 2020 11:19:17   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
How do you explain the conflicting accounts found in Matthew 20, Mark 16, Luke 24, and John 20????

I assume it is human error...


Have you ever tried looking into it? Its really not a big deal.

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Oct 16, 2020 11:28:48   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
How do you explain the conflicting accounts found in Matthew 20, Mark 16, Luke 24, and John 20????

I assume it is human error...


Let’s narrow this down a little bit. You’ve given me 4 chapters in 4 different books!

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Oct 16, 2020 12:09:07   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
How do you explain the conflicting accounts found in Matthew 20, Mark 16, Luke 24, and John 20????

I assume it is human error...


I googled it! I suggest you do the same! I’m not a scholar of the Bible. I have no doubt that there are some on this forum that have the knowledge to explain, I don’t! I do know this, nothing changes the story of the resurrection of Jesus Christ and what this accomplished for anyone who accepts him as their Savior.

That’s all that matters to me. The Bible states that it is God Breathed! There has been many that have tried to prove that the Bible is false, but no one has accomplished it yet! Lee Stroble, (not sure if that’s how to spell his name) is a man that did not believe in God. He married a Christian and he wanted to prove to her that she was wrong. He ended up proving that she was right! He is now a dedicated Christian!

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Oct 16, 2020 17:43:10   #
rumitoid
 
TexaCan wrote:
I googled it! I suggest you do the same! I’m not a scholar of the Bible. I have no doubt that there are some on this forum that have the knowledge to explain, I don’t! I do know this, nothing changes the story of the resurrection of Jesus Christ and what this accomplished for anyone who accepts him as their Savior.

That’s all that matters to me. The Bible states that it is God Breathed! There has been many that have tried to prove that the Bible is false, but no one has accomplished it yet! Lee Stroble, (not sure if that’s how to spell his name) is a man that did not believe in God. He married a Christian and he wanted to prove to her that she was wrong. He ended up proving that she was right! He is now a dedicated Christian!
I googled it! I suggest you do the same! I’m not... (show quote)


I find the different accounts of events by eyewitnesses exactly what we should expect and a support for the Bible as truth. If they wanted to make a solid case for Christ, they would have edited out any seeming contradictions. To me, not doing so is a remarkable statement of its truth. Almost proof of authenticity. If I was assigned to compiling the Gospels, every eyewitness would agree in every detail to what happened.

Eyewitness testimony is not really cause for claims of contradiction; it is just personal accounts. Eyewitness testimony has been found to be the less reliable of evidence. We each have our POV, tailored and enhanced by our life experiences. The timing and sequence of things can be unintentionally selective, a confabulation of fact and belief. We should just take it as a description of various angles to certain circumstances and conditions.

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Oct 16, 2020 18:36:19   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
TexaCan wrote:
Let’s narrow this down a little bit. You’ve given me 4 chapters in 4 different books!


They're all the accounts of Mary going to Jesus's tomb...

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Oct 16, 2020 18:40:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
TexaCan wrote:
I googled it! I suggest you do the same! I’m not a scholar of the Bible. I have no doubt that there are some on this forum that have the knowledge to explain, I don’t! I do know this, nothing changes the story of the resurrection of Jesus Christ and what this accomplished for anyone who accepts him as their Savior.

That’s all that matters to me. The Bible states that it is God Breathed! There has been many that have tried to prove that the Bible is false, but no one has accomplished it yet! Lee Stroble, (not sure if that’s how to spell his name) is a man that did not believe in God. He married a Christian and he wanted to prove to her that she was wrong. He ended up proving that she was right! He is now a dedicated Christian!
I googled it! I suggest you do the same! I’m not... (show quote)


First, I've read Stroble's book... Not impressed by his investigative abilities...

Second, I have googled it... I have not found an answer that explains the inconsistencies....

Third, I agree that the Inconsistencies don't take away from the Resurrection, and it certainly wasn't my intention to do so... It was only my intention to point out that the Bible has inaccuracies... As it was written by men

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Oct 16, 2020 18:40:58   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Have you ever tried looking into it? Its really not a big deal.


Yes... And agreed...

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Oct 16, 2020 20:48:45   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yes... And agreed...


Apparently your investigative abilities aren't all that great either....

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Oct 16, 2020 21:37:12   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Apparently your investigative abilities aren't all that great either....


Feel free to post the explanation...

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Oct 17, 2020 09:32:26   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Feel free to post the explanation...


I do feel free. Why do you always find reasons to not believe? You don't believe Jesus is the only way to God and that is crystal clear. You don't believe few will find the narrow path and that is also crystal clear.

Do a search on "do the resurrection accounts contradict each other" and ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit. You will find many claims they do from those who don't believe.

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Oct 17, 2020 09:41:32   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
I do feel free. Why do you always find reasons to not believe? You don't believe Jesus is the only way to God and that is crystal clear. You don't believe few will find the narrow path and that is also crystal clear.

Do a search on "do the resurrection accounts contradict each other" and ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit. You will find many claims they do from those who don't believe.


https://www.compellingtruth.org/resurrection-accounts.html

Do you like this one???

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Oct 17, 2020 10:33:14   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
First, I've read Stroble's book... Not impressed by his investigative abilities...

Second, I have googled it... I have not found an answer that explains the inconsistencies....

Third, I agree that the Inconsistencies don't take away from the Resurrection, and it certainly wasn't my intention to do so... It was only my intention to point out that the Bible has inaccuracies... As it was written by men
First, I've read Stroble's book... Not impressed b... (show quote)


You’re never impressed with someone who doesn’t agree with you on the Bible!😉

I just read a thread that Blade Runner wrote a very impressive post about the Bible. He is one of those that I mentioned that has an enormous knowledge in the Bible! This is his post that I copied from the thread: The purpose of separation of Church and state.....................

Blade Runner quote......

“Atheists make all kinds of irrational assumptions and commit strings of logical fallacies when they argue religion has no place in human affairs.

They really show their ignorance when they pretend to know the origin and history of the Bible.

The Holy Bible consists of 66 books written by 42 authors on three continents over a period of 1500 years. Two of the books were authored by women - Ruth and Esther.

* Many powerful men over the centuries have tried to discredit or destroy the Bible. All have failed. There is more evidence for the authenticity and accuracy of the Scriptures than for any other ancient book. No one who has studied these issues doubts the genuineness of the Bible.

* There are more hand-copied manuscripts of the Bible in existence than for any other book.

* No other ancient manuscript or book, scripture or otherwise, has been studied, researched and analyzed as thoroughly, as continuously, and for as long as has the Holy Bible.

* The Bible is the greatest best seller and most widely distributed book in history, it has outstripped the second best seller by 2 an 1/2 times.

The nearly 400 Messianic prophesies, beginning in Genesis and throughout the OT, present a universal thread of truth leading to the birth of Jesus.

Professor Peter Stoner, Chairman of the Departments of Mathematics and Astronomy at Pasadena City College, ran a class exercise on the probability of one man fulfilling just 8 of the Messianic prophesies. The odds are 1 x 10 to the 17th.

The authenticity of the Bible is supported, not only in the accuracy of its transmission, but by mountains of artifacts discovered by archeological expeditions and by accident over the past 170 years. The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls was the greatest Biblical archeological find to date. These Scrolls have pretty much removed all doubt about the accuracy of the Holy Bible.”

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