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Forgiving oneself is nothing any of us can do. Preposterous, in fact.
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Oct 10, 2020 05:31:29   #
rumitoid
 
Forgive is the wrong word, accept our shortcomings is better. Only Christ can forgive. Our actions that harm people have many hidden and visible ripples that we cannot comprehend. The damage we do cannot be forgiven because we have no clue as to the extent of the hurt we created. It could be in simple things. Injuring another in any way may make them cross with others, which can cause ripples and ripples and ripples. No way to repair or make amends. Wrong to forgive.

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Oct 10, 2020 07:38:35   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
rumitoid wrote:
Forgive is the wrong word, accept our shortcomings is better. Only Christ can forgive. Our actions that harm people have many hidden and visible ripples that we cannot comprehend. The damage we do cannot be forgiven because we have no clue as to the extent of the hurt we created. It could be in simple things. Injuring another in any way may make them cross with others, which can cause ripples and ripples and ripples. No way to repair or make amends. Wrong to forgive.


I can certainly agree with that, Rumi.

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Oct 10, 2020 10:25:07   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
rumitoid wrote:
Forgive is the wrong word, accept our shortcomings is better. Only Christ can forgive. Our actions that harm people have many hidden and visible ripples that we cannot comprehend. The damage we do cannot be forgiven because we have no clue as to the extent of the hurt we created. It could be in simple things. Injuring another in any way may make them cross with others, which can cause ripples and ripples and ripples. No way to repair or make amends. Wrong to forgive.


Thankfully we can still forgive others for their trespasses against us... Amen

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Oct 10, 2020 13:08:07   #
rumitoid
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I can certainly agree with that, Rumi.


Thank you.

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Oct 10, 2020 13:08:35   #
rumitoid
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Thankfully we can still forgive others for their trespasses against us... Amen


A Big Amen to that!

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Oct 10, 2020 18:51:42   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Forgive is the wrong word, accept our shortcomings is better. Only Christ can forgive. Our actions that harm people have many hidden and visible ripples that we cannot comprehend. The damage we do cannot be forgiven because we have no clue as to the extent of the hurt we created. It could be in simple things. Injuring another in any way may make them cross with others, which can cause ripples and ripples and ripples. No way to repair or make amends. Wrong to forgive.


Only Christ can forgive? God can't forgive? Do you understand what you're saying?

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Oct 10, 2020 22:08:26   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Only Christ can forgive? God can't forgive? Do you understand what you're saying?


Are you coming around to the Unitarian viewpoint finally??? Good for you

Christ forgives with God's authority... Just to clear that up

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Oct 11, 2020 06:59:33   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Are you coming around to the Unitarian viewpoint finally??? Good for you

Christ forgives with God's authority... Just to clear that up


No, unitarian isn’t Christian. Christ can forgive only because he is God.

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Oct 11, 2020 07:04:06   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
No, unitarian isn’t Christian. Christ can forgive only because he is God.


Odd... Christ claimed he held that power because God gave it to him...

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Oct 11, 2020 08:37:38   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Odd... Christ claimed he held that power because God gave it to him...


Not odd. You don't believe he is God which is why you find it odd.

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Oct 11, 2020 08:42:47   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Not odd. You don't believe he is God which is why you find it odd.


No... I find it extremely clear... Christ said he received the authority from God, so I assume that is where he received it from...

I would find it extremely difficult to understand how he received something he already had...

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Oct 11, 2020 09:41:22   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No... I find it extremely clear... Christ said he received the authority from God, so I assume that is where he received it from...

I would find it extremely difficult to understand how he received something he already had...


Because you don't really believe. That's why its difficult for you.

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Oct 11, 2020 10:08:46   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Because you don't really believe. That's why its difficult for you.


Probably... If one believes it's true it probably doesn't need to make sense...

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Oct 12, 2020 22:01:43   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Probably... If one believes it's true it probably doesn't need to make sense...


You don’t believe the bible is the word of God so many things don’t make sense to you.

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Oct 12, 2020 22:38:01   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
You don’t believe the bible is the word of God so many things don’t make sense to you.


I believe the Bible is God's word...

Where did you get the idea that I didn't???

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