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Jul 10, 2020 17:56:01   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
I am not just righteous, I am holy, perfect. You cannot sin against God and expect to live. Exodus 32:33". And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book". These are sins against God's person, which include, blasphemy (Leviticus 24:16), hatred of God (Proverbs 8:36), and ticking him off (Psalm 2:12). The Book of Life, also called the Book of Remembrance will contain the names of those who love and fear the God of Israel. Exodus 20:6. "And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments". Malachi 3:16. "...and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name". This Book will be written at the end, after the death of the Messiah, and before the resurrection. Daniel 12:1. "...and at that time thy people shall be delivered, everyone that shall be found written in the book". On Judgment Day, 97% of earth's inhabitants will be cut off by fire. Hell is not a Lake of Fire, it is a Black Hole. It is darkness, freezing cold, hyper-gravity, and a bottomless pit. BTW, where is your Lake of fire?
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Sue, if death and hell are cast into the "lake of fire"
(Rev. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.)$

Where do you get hell is "freezing cold" and "97% of earth's inhabitants will be cut by fire"?

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Jul 10, 2020 20:28:00   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, if death and hell are cast into the "lake of fire"
(Rev. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.)$

Where do you get hell is "freezing cold" and "97% of earth's inhabitants will be cut by fire"?


Heat is a form of Energy. Energy is God. There is no Energy in Hell. Light is the purest form of Energy. Hell is darkness. Fire causes illumination and heat and it is a symbol of holiness. There is no fire in Hell. Energy flows in a straight line thru time and space forever. Hell is hyper-gravity and a bottomless pit. Isaiah 24:6. "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left". A few is three, but I think it means 3%. If there are eight billion people in the world, about 240 million will survive Judgement Day. Out of that, about 100 million will survive the Day of Decision and witness the resurrection. Daniel 7:10. A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened". I can tell you where Hell is, where is this lake of fire?

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Jul 10, 2020 20:55:10   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
Heat is a form of Energy. Energy is God. There is no Energy in Hell. Light is the purest form of Energy. Hell is darkness. Fire causes illumination and heat and it is a symbol of holiness. There is no fire in Hell. Energy flows in a straight line thru time and space forever. Hell is hyper-gravity and a bottomless pit. Isaiah 24:6. "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left". A few is three, but I think it means 3%. If there are eight billion people in the world, about 240 million will survive Judgement Day. Out of that, about 100 million will survive the Day of Decision and witness the resurrection. Daniel 7:10. A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened". I can tell you where Hell is, where is this lake of fire?
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Sue, ⁹God is the one & only true God. God is not "energy". He has created the source of energy, and everything else, except evil.

OK, I'll bite: where is Hell? As far as the "Lake of fire" goes, scripture does not place it. Scripture would not mention it if it were not a legitimate place where hell is going. Dan, 7:10 does not place hell.

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Jul 10, 2020 21:30:36   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
I am not disputing that Jesus was Jewish. When the Messiah comes, all of Messianic prophecy in the OT will be fulfilled in his lifetime. There is not a 2000 year gap between the advent of the Messiah and the resurrection. Christians believe in three resurrections, and they are not biblical. They are Christian myths, ie the Rapture. If Jesus rose from the dead, the resurrection is past. Jesus is dead, get over it. The Messiah could come at any time now. I wrote the following in the G****e F***d thread: God is Energy, and it is eternal. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only change form. It is also omnipotent and omnipresent. Jesus has been kicked out of Heaven and reincarnated, and his new name is William Alan Treotschel. He will be the leader of the "sons of darkness". "Crucifixion" is called the "deaths of the uncircumcised". Ezekiel 28:10. This time he will die by bursting into flames. Ezekiel 28:18-19. "...and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be anymore". Jesus and his father Satan/Adam have a number of things in common. They were both in the US Navy, they both like to work with wood, they are both thieves, they are both from the north, and they are both sex addicts. Jesus is called a whore. Isaiah 57:3. Satan is a p*******e and Jesus is a womanizer.
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Sue, Ezek. 28 is referring to satan, not Jesus. Notice verse 14 "Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth, and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God: thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15: Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

None of these verses describe Jesus. Jesus was not and is not "the anointed cherub"
Satan is!! Christ is not a "cherub"!!

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Jul 10, 2020 21:34:32   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, Ezek. 28 is referring to satan, not Jesus. Notice verse 14 "Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth, and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God: thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15: Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

None of these verses describe Jesus. Jesus was not and is not "the anointed cherub"
Satan is!! Christ is not a "cherub"!!
Sue, Ezek. 28 is referring to satan, not Jesus. No... (show quote)
Yo, Ike, give it up, man. Nothing you say or quote or preach to susan is going to penetrate. She's out there, man, inside her own mind in a twilight zone somewhere.

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Jul 10, 2020 22:30:21   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, ⁹God is the one & only true God. God is not "energy". He has created the source of energy, and everything else, except evil.

OK, I'll bite: where is Hell? As far as the "Lake of fire" goes, scripture does not place it. Scripture would not mention it if it were not a legitimate place where hell is going. Dan, 7:10 does not place hell.


Elohim is plural and there is more to God than the Lord. God is a husband and a wife and they are one flesh. Genesis 2:24. The husband part of God is Energy. The wife part is the Lord/Messiah. God created everything, including evil. Isaiah 45:7. "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things". Deuteronomy 6:4 says the Lord is one, not God. The Lord is a person and there is only one personal God. Christians believe in three gods

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Jul 10, 2020 22:46:11   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, Ezek. 28 is referring to satan, not Jesus. Notice verse 14 "Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth, and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God: thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15: Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

None of these verses describe Jesus. Jesus was not and is not "the anointed cherub"
Satan is!! Christ is not a "cherub"!!
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Ezekiel 28 is about both Lucifer (Jesus) and Satan (Adam). Isaiah 14 is about Babylon and its king, Jesus. Job 20 and Psalm 109 are also about Satan. Fire and water do not mix. Your god is a sado-masochist.

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Jul 11, 2020 14:50:39   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
Heat is a form of Energy. Energy is God. There is no Energy in Hell. Light is the purest form of Energy. Hell is darkness. Fire causes illumination and heat and it is a symbol of holiness. There is no fire in Hell. Energy flows in a straight line thru time and space forever. Hell is hyper-gravity and a bottomless pit. Isaiah 24:6. "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left". A few is three, but I think it means 3%. If there are eight billion people in the world, about 240 million will survive Judgement Day. Out of that, about 100 million will survive the Day of Decision and witness the resurrection. Daniel 7:10. A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened". I can tell you where Hell is, where is this lake of fire?
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Sue, Deu. 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and shall set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

How say you "There is no fire in hell."

You have your own religion. You also have your way of interpreting scripture. Apparently your religion excuses blasphemy because you have blasphemed Jesus.

I have sent you many verses that show the ONLY way to be saved from your sins is to come to Jesus in repentance. You reject that and believe you are righteous.

Sue, I will continue to pray for you, but the course you are on leads to hell. God is in charge of who goes to heaven and who goes to hell, not Sue.

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Jul 11, 2020 15:53:24   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, Deu. 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and shall set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

How say you "There is no fire in hell."

You have your own religion. You also have your way of interpreting scripture. Apparently your religion excuses blasphemy because you have blasphemed Jesus.

I have sent you many verses that show the ONLY way to be saved from your sins is to come to Jesus in repentance. You reject that and believe you are righteous.

Sue, I will continue to pray for you, but the course you are on leads to hell. God is in charge of who goes to heaven and who goes to hell, not Sue.
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Deuteronomy 32:22 indicates that Hell has depth. The three Judgments of God will be by fire. The fire will burn the earth. Fire will be the mechanism by which evil spirits/Demons get to Hell. Proverbs 14:15. "The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going". God is the Judge, not Jesus. Isaiah 29:24. "They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine".

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Jul 11, 2020 19:43:18   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
Deuteronomy 32:22 indicates that Hell has depth. The three Judgments of God will be by fire. The fire will burn the earth. Fire will be the mechanism by which evil spirits/Demons get to Hell. Proverbs 14:15. "The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going". God is the Judge, not Jesus. Isaiah 29:24. "They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine".


Sue, scripture says Christ and the Father are one, not Christ and Satan.
I and my father are one. Jn.10:30

And lo a voice from heaven saying, This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased
Mat. 3:17

God the father was speaking about His son (Jesus Christ). It was not Christ claiming He was one with Satan. If this doesnot satisfy you look at Mt. 17:5, Mk. 9:7, & Lk. 9:35. Also look at 2Pe. 1:17 For He received from God the Father honor and glory, when there came such a voice to Him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Then there is At.13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that He hath raised up Jesus again, as it's also written in the second Psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

You may want to apply 2Tim 3:15 when you read scripture
2Tim 3:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly diving the word of t***h.

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Jul 11, 2020 20:37:57   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, scripture says Christ and the Father are one, not Christ and Satan.
I and my father are one. Jn.10:30

And lo a voice from heaven saying, This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased
Mat. 3:17

God the father was speaking about His son (Jesus Christ). It was not Christ claiming He was one with Satan. If this doesnot satisfy you look at Mt. 17:5, Mk. 9:7, & Lk. 9:35. Also look at 2Pe. 1:17 For He received from God the Father honor and glory, when there came such a voice to Him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Then there is At.13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that He hath raised up Jesus again, as it's also written in the second Psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

You may want to apply 2Tim 3:15 when you read scripture
2Tim 3:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly diving the word of t***h.
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A father and son are not one, but a husband and wife are. Genesis 2:24. In the NT, Jesus is called "the second Adam". The Messiah is supposed to be the seed of Eve. Eve-Seth-Messiah. Genesis 4:25. Not only was Eve Adam's wife, she was also his daughter. Cain was the spiritual son of Adam, and he was a murderer. Jesus is in this lineage. Adam-Cain-Jesus. On Mothers Day, Sunday morning May 13, 1984, I heard a voice from Heaven that said, "Wake up Maggie". Immediately the song by Rod Stewart played on the radio. I think it was Moses. This voice did not come from within my own mind, it was from the east, from above, a man's voice, and I could tell he had a big smile on his face. That officially ended my calling.

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