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Jul 5, 2020 19:39:06   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, yesterday I sent you NT verses that show belief in the finished work of Christ is necessary for salvation.

You reject the scripture! How then are you saved from your sin? In the OT animal sacrifices provided a covering of the peoples sins until Christ came along and redeemed people from their sins. Animal sacrifices only "covered" their sin. It did not "redeem" them from their sin!

Redemption is only through belief in Jesus finished work on the cross of calvary. Ephesians 2:8 & 9.
Sue, yesterday I sent you NT verses that show beli... (show quote)

Hey, Ike, you are trying to reason with a mentally disturbed individual. Susanblange made up her own religion, it is a hodge podge of Judaism, Christianity, mysticism and paganism.

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Jul 5, 2020 19:45:45   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, if you take a look at 2Peter 1:20 & 21you will see: no prophesy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21:For the prophesy came not in old time by the will of man: but only men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


Then there is 2Tim. 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

You are adding to scripture with what you claim is "oral tradition". What proof do you have that the oral tradition was spoke at any time?
Sue, if you take a look at 2Peter 1:20 & 21you... (show quote)


The entire NT is an addition to scripture. The OT is complete and it requires no addition or elaboration. "Scripture" means writing of a divine nature. I was told most of the secret prophecies when I was about 11 or 12 years old. The NT is not scripture. It is the word of man, mainly Paul. Jesus was a false prophet. Matthew 16:28. Jesus said, "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom".

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Jul 5, 2020 20:05:53   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Hey, Ike, you are trying to reason with a mentally disturbed individual. Susanblange made up her own religion, it is a hodge podge of Judaism, Christianity, mysticism and paganism.


Blasphemy is considered a sin against God's person. Ike knows about my mental state, I am not trying to hide it. Isaiah 52:5. "...and my name continually every day is blasphemed".

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Jul 6, 2020 17:23:18   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
Jesus did not fulfill the prophecy that Christians apply to the crucifixion of Jesus. Those are about something unique and different. The crucifixion is the be all and end all of Christian theology. All of the prophecy in the OT that Jesus did not fulfill was "nailed to the cross". Colossians 2:14. "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross". All of scripture will be fulfilled when the Messiah comes. Jesus fulfilled no messianic prophecy, but he did try. Jews observe the Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur, for forgiveness of sins against God in spirit. Things like not keeping the dietary laws, or working on the Sabbath. If you sin against a person, you have to confess and make restitution to that person. You also cannot repeat the sin. Sins against God's person are deadly. Exodus 32:33. "And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book".
Jesus did not fulfill the prophecy that Christians... (show quote)


Sue, if you compare Zech. 9:9 with Mt. 21:4&5 it shows the prophesy of Zech. being fulfilled in Mt. 21:4&5. This is just one example of many where an OT prophesy is being fulfilled in the NT. If you want more I'll give you plenty more.

Mt. 21:14 shows Christ healing the blind and lame.
How can satan have the power to heal? Healing is a tribute of God and His people.

Mt. 20:20&21 shows the priests & scribes trying to trick Jesus. Instead, Jesus answered their question in a way to spoil their attempt. Notice in verse 21 they tell Jesus "teachers the way of God".

How could they say this of Jesus if He is satan?

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Jul 6, 2020 20:40:56   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, if you compare Zech. 9:9 with Mt. 21:4&5 it shows the prophesy of Zech. being fulfilled in Mt. 21:4&5. This is just one example of many where an OT prophesy is being fulfilled in the NT. If you want more I'll give you plenty more.

Mt. 21:14 shows Christ healing the blind and lame.
How can satan have the power to heal? Healing is a tribute of God and His people.

Mt. 20:20&21 shows the priests & scribes trying to trick Jesus. Instead, Jesus answered their question in a way to spoil their attempt. Notice in verse 21 they tell Jesus "teachers the way of God".

How could they say this of Jesus if He is satan?
Sue, if you compare Zech. 9:9 with Mt. 21:4&5 ... (show quote)


Jesus is not Satan, Adam the serpent is. Jesus is Lucifer, Satan's counterfeit messiah. Satan is the spiritual father of Jesus. Jesus says they are one. Jesus was a sorcerer and he was able to work some magic tricks. Isaiah 57:3. He learned this during the ten years he spent in Egypt in his childhood, between the ages of two and twelve. Turning water into wine is a common Charlatan's trick. I saw Chris Angel, mind freak literally walk on water. Deafness and Blindness are not physical, they are spiritual conditions. Isaiah 29:18. "And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness". Isaiah 42:16-20. Before his calling, the Messiah was ignorant of the scriptures. The "crucifixion" happened on October 22, 1969, but the Messiah was deaf and blind, and didn't know it. I didn't start reading the Bible till December, 1983, except for the books of Daniel and Revelation. Isaiah 6:9-10. 10% of Americans will survive the pestilence, the famine, and the sword. Isaiah 6:13. "But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof". BTW, I only read the KJV.

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Jul 6, 2020 21:40:11   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
SOS 5:10. "My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand". The Messiah's ethnic background is mainly Norwegian. They are the tribe of Joseph/Ephraim. Satan is also white but he was black originally in his former life. He is Adam. Dark pigment is dominant, black hair, skin, and brown eyes, where as lighter pigment is recessive. Fair skin, blond hair, and blue eyes. You can get the recessive from the dominant, but you cannot get the dominant from the recessive. Therefore, Adam had to have been black.
SOS 5:10. "My beloved is white and ruddy, the... (show quote)


Sue, from where do get " the Messiah's ethnic background is mainly NorwegiaƱ?" I did not see "Norway" listed anywhere in the bible.

On a side note, I prefer to stick with scripture. Oral tradition is not ordained scripture and there is no way of knowing if what is being followed was what was originally followed.

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Jul 6, 2020 22:58:19   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, from where do get " the Messiah's ethnic background is mainly NorwegiaƱ?" I did not see "Norway" listed anywhere in the bible.

On a side note, I prefer to stick with scripture. Oral tradition is not ordained scripture and there is no way of knowing if what is being followed was what was originally followed.


Norway is purely the tribe of Ephraim. The House of Israel, the northern kingdom, settled what used to be called "free Europe". Genesis 48:15-22. Ephraim received the birthright and the blessing in his generation. He became a multitude of nations. The Messiah would be from the northern kingdom, Joseph and Ephraim. The ten tribes are symbolized in the scriptures as ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8), and ten toes. (Daniel 2:41-42). The Messiah is a little horn. The horn is a phallic symbol of power, so a little horn is a woman. The three horns plucked up by the Messiah are probably the three former members of the UK. Queen Elizabeth is sitting on the throne of David. He has been reincarnated and he will reclaim the throne. He will probably be either American, Israeli, or European. It's likely he will also be Jewish. Elijah, Michael, and Gabrielle are Jewish. Gabrielle is a woman and that is her real name. I remember the secret prophecies when they are fulfilled. They ring a bell. Some things I get from Christianity, ie the three wise men, the drummer boy, and the star in the east.

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Jul 7, 2020 16:33:33   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
Norway is purely the tribe of Ephraim. The House of Israel, the northern kingdom, settled what used to be called "free Europe". Genesis 48:15-22. Ephraim received the birthright and the blessing in his generation. He became a multitude of nations. The Messiah would be from the northern kingdom, Joseph and Ephraim. The ten tribes are symbolized in the scriptures as ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8), and ten toes. (Daniel 2:41-42). The Messiah is a little horn. The horn is a phallic symbol of power, so a little horn is a woman. The three horns plucked up by the Messiah are probably the three former members of the UK. Queen Elizabeth is sitting on the throne of David. He has been reincarnated and he will reclaim the throne. He will probably be either American, Israeli, or European. It's likely he will also be Jewish. Elijah, Michael, and Gabrielle are Jewish. Gabrielle is a woman and that is her real name. I remember the secret prophecies when they are fulfilled. They ring a bell. Some things I get from Christianity, ie the three wise men, the drummer boy, and the star in the east.
Norway is purely the tribe of Ephraim. The House o... (show quote)


Sue, if you get this from scripture please include: book, chapter and verse. I asked you before where in the bible it shows anyone being incarnated or reincarnated. If you answered I missed the answer & would appreciate if you would send it again.

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Jul 7, 2020 16:48:18   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
Norway is purely the tribe of Ephraim. The House of Israel, the northern kingdom, settled what used to be called "free Europe". Genesis 48:15-22. Ephraim received the birthright and the blessing in his generation. He became a multitude of nations. The Messiah would be from the northern kingdom, Joseph and Ephraim. The ten tribes are symbolized in the scriptures as ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8), and ten toes. (Daniel 2:41-42). The Messiah is a little horn. The horn is a phallic symbol of power, so a little horn is a woman. The three horns plucked up by the Messiah are probably the three former members of the UK. Queen Elizabeth is sitting on the throne of David. He has been reincarnated and he will reclaim the throne. He will probably be either American, Israeli, or European. It's likely he will also be Jewish. Elijah, Michael, and Gabrielle are Jewish. Gabrielle is a woman and that is her real name. I remember the secret prophecies when they are fulfilled. They ring a bell. Some things I get from Christianity, ie the three wise men, the drummer boy, and the star in the east.
Norway is purely the tribe of Ephraim. The House o... (show quote)


From where do get " the horn is a PHALLiC symbol of power, so a little horn is a woman"? I understand the little horn being a woman, but from where do you get "phallic"?

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Jul 7, 2020 20:53:33   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, if you get this from scripture please include: book, chapter and verse. I asked you before where in the bible it shows anyone being incarnated or reincarnated. If you answered I missed the answer & would appreciate if you would send it again.


You have to think outside the box, Ike. Not everything is explicit in the Bible, but the clues are there. Most of my theology and doctrine is original and there is some T***h in all religions, like reincarnation. God was a spirit in Heaven and he's been incarnated. We were created in the image of God. God is a person. I do not believe in three gods. I am a Monotheist. The god of Christianity suffers from a multiple personality disorder. People become Angels or Demons when they die. Angels can be reincarnated if that is what they want. Hell and death are permanent. Hell is also not forever, eventually your spirit will be extinguished and you will cease to exist.

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Jul 7, 2020 21:28:35   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
From where do get " the horn is a PHALLiC symbol of power, so a little horn is a woman"? I understand the little horn being a woman, but from where do you get "phallic"?


Adam was the Tree of Knowledge and the serpent was a part of it. It was a part of Adam's anatomy. Adam/Satan is a sex offender and he and his wife "crucified" the Messiah on October 22, 1969 at the age of eight. This fulfilled Psalm 22, Psalm 69, and Job 16. The Psalms correspond to the day and year it happened. The Messiah will do the same thing to Satan that he did to the Messiah. The Messiah will be victim, witness, prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner. Isaiah 27:1. "In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the d**gon that is in the sea". Job 20:25. "It is drawn and cometh out of the body; yea the glittering sword cometh out of his gall: terrors are upon him".

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Jul 9, 2020 13:42:48   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
Even if the shroud is authentic, it doesn't matter because it doesn't prove anything. The God of Israel is the living God and earth is called "the land of the living" in the OT. If Jesus had risen from the dead, he would be here. The purpose of the resurrection is to conquer and transcend death. When the God of Israel comes to earth to be the King of the Universe and set up the Kingdom of God, it will be forever. Christians will have him executed but he will return on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem. Zechariah 14:4-5. "...in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one". Zechariah 14:9.
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Sue, I'm this post you are confusing the first and second advents of Christ. When He came the first time He came as "the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world". When He comes again He will come as the "Lion of the tribe of Juda, the root of David". (That is proof of the Jewishness of Christ.)

Secondly, Christ is risen from the dead and is everywhere because He is "God in the flesh" and God is omnipresent.

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Jul 9, 2020 14:40:27   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, I'm this post you are confusing the first and second advents of Christ. When He came the first time He came as "the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world". When He comes again He will come as the "Lion of the tribe of Juda, the root of David". (That is proof of the Jewishness of Christ.)

Secondly, Christ is risen from the dead and is everywhere because He is "God in the flesh" and God is omnipresent.


I am not disputing that Jesus was Jewish. When the Messiah comes, all of Messianic prophecy in the OT will be fulfilled in his lifetime. There is not a 2000 year gap between the advent of the Messiah and the resurrection. Christians believe in three resurrections, and they are not biblical. They are Christian myths, ie the Rapture. If Jesus rose from the dead, the resurrection is past. Jesus is dead, get over it. The Messiah could come at any time now. I wrote the following in the G****e F***d thread: God is Energy, and it is eternal. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only change form. It is also omnipotent and omnipresent. Jesus has been kicked out of Heaven and reincarnated, and his new name is William Alan Treotschel. He will be the leader of the "sons of darkness". "Crucifixion" is called the "deaths of the uncircumcised". Ezekiel 28:10. This time he will die by bursting into flames. Ezekiel 28:18-19. "...and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be anymore". Jesus and his father Satan/Adam have a number of things in common. They were both in the US Navy, they both like to work with wood, they are both thieves, they are both from the north, and they are both sex addicts. Jesus is called a whore. Isaiah 57:3. Satan is a p*******e and Jesus is a womanizer.

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Jul 9, 2020 21:58:48   #
Ike25
 
Sue, you said in a recent post that you know you are going to heaven. You also said that you are righteous.

Rev. 21:22 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defiled, neither whatsoever worketh a*********n, or maketh a lie: but they that are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Do you think that you are righteous despite calling God's son a whoremonger, adulterer, and womanizer?

Look at Rev 20:15 and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Rev. 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophesy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defiled, neither whatsoever worketh a*********n, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

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Jul 10, 2020 12:02:34   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, you said in a recent post that you know you are going to heaven. You also said that you are righteous.

Rev. 21:22 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defiled, neither whatsoever worketh a*********n, or maketh a lie: but they that are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Do you think that you are righteous despite calling God's son a whoremonger, adulterer, and womanizer?

Look at Rev 20:15 and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Rev. 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophesy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defiled, neither whatsoever worketh a*********n, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Sue, you said in a recent post that you know you a... (show quote)


I am not just righteous, I am holy, perfect. You cannot sin against God and expect to live. Exodus 32:33". And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book". These are sins against God's person, which include, blasphemy (Leviticus 24:16), hatred of God (Proverbs 8:36), and ticking him off (Psalm 2:12). The Book of Life, also called the Book of Remembrance will contain the names of those who love and fear the God of Israel. Exodus 20:6. "And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments". Malachi 3:16. "...and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name". This Book will be written at the end, after the death of the Messiah, and before the resurrection. Daniel 12:1. "...and at that time thy people shall be delivered, everyone that shall be found written in the book". On Judgment Day, 97% of earth's inhabitants will be cut off by fire. Hell is not a Lake of Fire, it is a Black Hole. It is darkness, freezing cold, hyper-gravity, and a bottomless pit. BTW, where is your Lake of fire?

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