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Jul 23, 2014 18:40:47   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
rich278 wrote:
Some years ago we were hunting in WY and every morning the big trucks coming through town all had fresh blood from deer or antelope.


Oh man, do those trucks splatter those stupid deer.

Speaking of antelope, we have a herd of them just a few miles from town. Very rough country that they like. We used to see them all the time when cutting wheat next to where they spent most of their time. It was fun to watch theme go under barbed wire fences. They went down on their bellies and let their short horns raise the bottom strand over them. Of course, deer are fun to watch go over those same fences. They look so graceful doing it.

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Jul 23, 2014 18:48:09   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
bahmer wrote:
I don't hunt anymore myself but I seem to remember that they did have handguns with scopes and that they did use these weapons for deer hunting. As I said I could be wrong but there either was a time or maybe they still do that today in some parts of the country. I have seen on videos what a .50 caliber does to a steel plate and that is more than enough power to k**l a deer. In fact you could probably take out moose or buffalo or other larger game like that with one of these monsters. I also believe that the .357 mag. and the .44 mag were popular as well.
I don't hunt anymore myself but I seem to remember... (show quote)


I use a single shot, I enjoy stealth and marksmanship my wife uses a single shot 30 30 pistol made by magnum research... She had a neck injury and can't shoot her 20 ga. Anymore.

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Jul 23, 2014 19:29:45   #
Homestead
 
oldroy wrote:
Many people around here k**l deer the year round and as long as they don't get caught keep salting them away in freezers.

Actually we k**l about as many with vehicles on the highways as with guns. Body men don't mind repairing a fender or two but they do seem to tire of those with the whole front end destroyed.

The biggest mule deer I have ever seen came out of a tree row onto the highway and really tested my brakes. All I got was his back left knee and he didn't lose a stride. Both of my sons have hit more deer than we could count. One rancher here said that he and a friend from Georgia were flying over an area where a deer herd fed and they counted very near 250 of the worthless critters in the herd. I have always thought we need to get some people with automatic weapons and go after those herds.
Many people around here k**l deer the year round a... (show quote)


No.you don't need machine guns, just get the damn feds out of it and return the game management to the locals.

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Jul 24, 2014 00:00:53   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Homestead wrote:
No.you don't need machine guns, just get the damn feds out of it and return the game management to the locals.


Would that make the insurance companies happy? They are nearly as tired of those critters as the rest of us are.

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Jul 24, 2014 10:35:44   #
Homestead
 
oldroy wrote:
Would that make the insurance companies happy? They are nearly as tired of those critters as the rest of us are.


Yeah, and if they'd just let the farmer or rancher manage their own land the insurance companies wouldn't even be bothered.

It's because of government laws, regulating what a farmer can and can't do that creates the problem.

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Jul 24, 2014 11:15:05   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Homestead wrote:
Yeah, and if they'd just let the farmer or rancher manage their own land the insurance companies wouldn't even be bothered.

It's because of government laws, regulating what a farmer can and can't do that creates the problem.


:thumbup:
But, how does we the people get them out? Replacing Obone-head will not remove one government law, or regulation. But 15,000,000 American standing in front of 15 Washington Pl will.

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Jul 24, 2014 12:31:35   #
Homestead
 
cold iron wrote:
:thumbup:
But, how does we the people get them out? Replacing Obone-head will not remove one government law, or regulation. But 15,000,000 American standing in front of 15 Washington Pl will.


You get them out by shrinking the government.
You get them out by enforcing state sovereignty.

It is up to the states to manage their wild life not the Federal government.

You get them out by sticking to the Constitution.

The liberals did not get control of this country overnight. They did it one piece at a time and we let them do it.

Now it's going to have to be taken back, one piece at a time.

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Jul 24, 2014 15:09:20   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Homestead wrote:
You get them out by shrinking the government.
You get them out by enforcing state sovereignty.

It is up to the states to manage their wild life not the Federal government.

You get them out by sticking to the Constitution.

The liberals did not get control of this country overnight. They did it one piece at a time and we let them do it.

Now it's going to have to be taken back, one piece at a time.


HUUMM, how does that work in NY state? Or California? Or Illinois? I'll tell you a little secret, each year around June a few million kids graduate and 90% of them are liberals, when they turn 18 they will v**e for ???? Yes you know ....

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Jul 24, 2014 16:09:11   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
Homestead writes of what was a Normative not Prerogative-Leader stateless state, based in Qatar arming ISIS-IS and wh**ever sounds good at the time, Unconstitutional Lawless failed state, client/satellite to the Moslem-Brotherhood and selective-Darwinist-jihad. One Party System a vertical power structure or shall we just call it Tyranny and get it over with?

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Jul 24, 2014 16:13:01   #
Patty
 
rodulfo-tardo wrote:
Homestead writes of what was a Normative not Prerogative-Leader stateless state, based in Qatar arming ISIS-IS and wh**ever sounds good at the time, Unconstitutional Lawless failed state, client/satellite to the Moslem-Brotherhood and selective-Darwinist-jihad. One Party System a vertical power structure or shall we just call it Tyranny and get it over with?


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/23/isil-threatens-obama-top-us-official-discloses/
Maybe we shouldn't jump to snap judgments.
:wink:

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Jul 24, 2014 17:17:22   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
Patty////////////////////// There are no snap conclusions only the reality of what it is, can you justify why social-media was intelligence source for U.S. Policy in Ukraine? Not a snap conclusion, this was said during a news brief from the White-House-Command-Center of ISIS, IS and Hamas, (remember the moderate rebels?) these are no snap conclusion but they are a reality that was a distraction from the problem; the Arab-Spring was rejected by the Middle East and Maghrebi states, a personal insult to Emir Obama's Islamist-N**iism to retrieve the Ottoman Turkey Empire, the snap-conclusion is how the Medieval Bedouins fought for Mohammedanism something they are trying to do.
The New World Order of the Ikhwan al-Mooslimeen, Hamas and Al'wh**ever will precipitate the "End of Times" the stop and go hesitation of group-think not facts is the most effective way, method or strategy needed for the total submission of the "peasant-class" recent changes in the Stock-Market insures an imminent collapse will not only affect the World-Markets but guarantee a subjugated captive state, the one we are and have been by incremental dosages, so gradual this collapsed economy is referred to the "new normal" as if it was perfectly normal to accept tyranny over freedom and the Constitutional Republic it was before the 2008 c**p d' e'tat, on two e******ns the first may have been excusable as a race-hygiene one dominated by the tolerant-diverse redefining of lawful, rule of law and letter of the law, the 2012 e******n was a study in v***r f***d, jumping to conclusion? Why were those e-mails so conveniently lost? The fact that satellite pictures showed the missile that downed MH17 over Ukraine, came from the Ukrainian Army's sector not the East as they say or Russia for that matter, why was the bulk of records and transcripts sent to Britain not the Netherlands, why is Ukraine refusing to disclose/surrender all the audio-visual material of the Air-Control
communication with the flight? Air-Control changed the flight plan, ordering it to fly over a combat zone, including the order to descend from 33,000 feet to 10,000 within range of the "Buk" missiles that are only used by Ukraine and before that Saddam Hussein, now Hamas ISIS/IS; Obama's personal Taliban, it would be impossible to make a snap-conclusion that regards war crimes, if you read between the lines you'd see the New World Order of the Total Caliph**e, no snap conclusion that the U.S. is a Total Government, the only snap decision is the natural progression which is Total War.

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Jul 24, 2014 18:46:00   #
bahmer
 
cold iron wrote:
HUUMM, how does that work in NY state? Or California? Or Illinois? I'll tell you a little secret, each year around June a few million kids graduate and 90% of them are liberals, when they turn 18 they will v**e for ???? Yes you know ....


That is because no one is forcing the schools to adopt a more conservative agenda. If we allow liberal teachers and liberals to rewrite history and no one challenges them what do you expect?

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Jul 24, 2014 19:24:50   #
Homestead
 
cold iron wrote:
HUUMM, how does that work in NY state? Or California? Or Illinois? I'll tell you a little secret, each year around June a few million kids graduate and 90% of them are liberals, when they turn 18 they will v**e for ???? Yes you know ....


Let me put it to you this way.

Unfortunately c***ters do win and these days c***ters win quite often.

Do you know who never...ever...ever...ever wins? Do you?

QUITTERS NEVER WIN!

CRY BABIES NEVER WIN!

PUSSES NEVER WIN?

When our fore fathers decided to fight for their freedom they had to go up against the most powerful military in the world.

They had to fight the very country they were dependant on for trade and commerce and they would need both to fight a war, but, they wouldn't have it any more.

There was absolutely no reason why anyone in the Colonies should have expected to win the war or that the war would lead to any good conclusion for the Colonies.


Did they quit......did they give up.....did they bite their finger nails and say oh woo is me.

Here's a little secret for you...........the first step to winning a fight..........
is to decide your going to fight.

After that it's just a matter of how, implementing a strategy.........
taking your lumps.......................
regrouping and going at it again....and again...and again........
until they win or you do...............................PERIOD!

QUITTERS AND WHINERS NEVER WIN!

Freedom ain't free and it ain't easy..................suck it up and get over it!

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Jul 25, 2014 06:19:33   #
Patty
 
Didn't read it did ya?
Washington already has war on the table ready to go.
Despite the conclusion by US intelligence that there is no evidence of Russian involvement in the destruction of the Malaysian airliner and all lives onboard, Washington is escalating the crisis and shepherding it toward war.




Twenty-two US senators have introduced into the 113th Congress, Second Session, a bill, S.2277, "To prevent further Russian aggression toward Ukraine and other sovereign states in Europe and Eurasia, and for other purposes." https://beta.congress.gov/113/bills/s2277/BILLS-113s2277is.pdf The bill is before the Committee on Foreign Relations.




Note that prior to any evidence of any Russian aggression, there are already 22 senators lined up in behalf of preventing further Russian aggression.
rodulfo-tardo wrote:
Patty////////////////////// There are no snap conclusions only the reality of what it is, can you justify why social-media was intelligence source for U.S. Policy in Ukraine? Not a snap conclusion, this was said during a news brief from the White-House-Command-Center of ISIS, IS and Hamas, (remember the moderate rebels?) these are no snap conclusion but they are a reality that was a distraction from the problem; the Arab-Spring was rejected by the Middle East and Maghrebi states, a personal insult to Emir Obama's Islamist-N**iism to retrieve the Ottoman Turkey Empire, the snap-conclusion is how the Medieval Bedouins fought for Mohammedanism something they are trying to do.
The New World Order of the Ikhwan al-Mooslimeen, Hamas and Al'wh**ever will precipitate the "End of Times" the stop and go hesitation of group-think not facts is the most effective way, method or strategy needed for the total submission of the "peasant-class" recent changes in the Stock-Market insures an imminent collapse will not only affect the World-Markets but guarantee a subjugated captive state, the one we are and have been by incremental dosages, so gradual this collapsed economy is referred to the "new normal" as if it was perfectly normal to accept tyranny over freedom and the Constitutional Republic it was before the 2008 c**p d' e'tat, on two e******ns the first may have been excusable as a race-hygiene one dominated by the tolerant-diverse redefining of lawful, rule of law and letter of the law, the 2012 e******n was a study in v***r f***d, jumping to conclusion? Why were those e-mails so conveniently lost? The fact that satellite pictures showed the missile that downed MH17 over Ukraine, came from the Ukrainian Army's sector not the East as they say or Russia for that matter, why was the bulk of records and transcripts sent to Britain not the Netherlands, why is Ukraine refusing to disclose/surrender all the audio-visual material of the Air-Control
communication with the flight? Air-Control changed the flight plan, ordering it to fly over a combat zone, including the order to descend from 33,000 feet to 10,000 within range of the "Buk" missiles that are only used by Ukraine and before that Saddam Hussein, now Hamas ISIS/IS; Obama's personal Taliban, it would be impossible to make a snap-conclusion that regards war crimes, if you read between the lines you'd see the New World Order of the Total Caliph**e, no snap conclusion that the U.S. is a Total Government, the only snap decision is the natural progression which is Total War.
Patty////////////////////// ... (show quote)

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