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Jul 13, 2014 23:11:03   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rich278 wrote:
I'm sorry you missed the point, I'll type slower this time. If a person buys a hunting license there is a good chance he may own a gun. I never mentioned any requirements, but the state I live in requires gun safety training. I may have purchased more hunting licenses than you and I may have more guns than you. I get sick to my stomach when I see gun toting fools k**l 20 first graders, then piss and moan when the government would like to limit the size of clip. The point is if the government wants your guns they will get them. If they have to pry them from your cold dead fingers they will. The Government has never taken any firearms from any law biding citizen, and never will, but keep sending your money into the NRA, and don't forget to b***h about paying taxes.
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You want something to get sick about? Here is a very partial list of BATFE abuses. The agency in charge of enforcing firearms laws is far better at committing crimes than prosecuting them, unless it is malicious prosecution of an innocent mistake. Yes, it is sickening when first graders are k**led by a monster with a 20 round magazine. Would it be less sickening if he had 2 10 round mags instead, and spent about one and a half seconds changing them out? In spite of an population increase of around 40,000,000 people in the last 20 years, in spite of a substantial increase in the number of gun owners and the issuance of several million concealed carry permits over the past 20 years, murders have have been cut in half.
According to FBI statistics, more people by far die every year from knives, clubs, and bare hands than from ALL rifles and shotguns, not just those with large magazines. Wanna ban pocketknives, baseball bats, and hands and feet? How many people die from drug overdoses? I know, let's ban drugs! That should solve the problem. Somewhere around 180,000 people every year die from doctor mistakes. Let's ban doctors.
Even the CDC, while it officially supports gun control, admits that nothing that has been proposed would likely have any effect on firearms crime.
My state of GA has issued well over 600,000 carry permits, and about 100 of them, in all the years they have been issued have committed crimes with firearms. In Texas, in 2011, which is the last year stats are available, there were 497 convictions for murder and manslaughter. One was a permit holder. You will find similar stats nationwide.



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Jul 14, 2014 08:05:38   #
rich278
 
I know the routine, like I said I am a lifetime h****r, shooter, I own many guns, I taught my son the shooting and hunting sports. I don't know of any the require multi round clips, the shooter in AZ that shot MS Gifford was taken down by a woman when he was reloading. I'm sure it wouldn't have taken much to tip over the kid at Sandy Hook. I can go to town today and buy any amount of ammo I can find and pay for, but I can only buy 1 box of antihistamine. It would be a simple fix, I don't think these rampage k**lers plan too far ahead to stock up. To get a drivers license one has to take a few tests, but to buy a gun you just need cash.
Loki wrote:
You want something to get sick about? Here is a very partial list of BATFE abuses. The agency in charge of enforcing firearms laws is far better at committing crimes than prosecuting them, unless it is malicious prosecution of an innocent mistake. Yes, it is sickening when first graders are k**led by a monster with a 20 round magazine. Would it be less sickening if he had 2 10 round mags instead, and spent about one and a half seconds changing them out? In spite of an population increase of around 40,000,000 people in the last 20 years, in spite of a substantial increase in the number of gun owners and the issuance of several million concealed carry permits over the past 20 years, murders have have been cut in half.
According to FBI statistics, more people by far die every year from knives, clubs, and bare hands than from ALL rifles and shotguns, not just those with large magazines. Wanna ban pocketknives, baseball bats, and hands and feet? How many people die from drug overdoses? I know, let's ban drugs! That should solve the problem. Somewhere around 180,000 people every year die from doctor mistakes. Let's ban doctors.
Even the CDC, while it officially supports gun control, admits that nothing that has been proposed would likely have any effect on firearms crime.
My state of GA has issued well over 600,000 carry permits, and about 100 of them, in all the years they have been issued have committed crimes with firearms. In Texas, in 2011, which is the last year stats are available, there were 497 convictions for murder and manslaughter. One was a permit holder. You will find similar stats nationwide.



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Jul 14, 2014 12:42:42   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
oldroy wrote:
Please watch this video and find that New York has started the confiscation of guns no matter what people think. I don't think the law passed late at night will affect me and my guns but so many more people will be affected in New York. I can see the gun owners getting riled to the point of revolution from this story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeR8lK-v4S4#t=57


Someday we may come to the understanding that the Democrat Party is the American N**i Party. Wolf in sheep skin.

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Jul 14, 2014 13:08:05   #
bahmer
 
oldroy wrote:
Please watch this video and find that New York has started the confiscation of guns no matter what people think. I don't think the law passed late at night will affect me and my guns but so many more people will be affected in New York. I can see the gun owners getting riled to the point of revolution from this story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeR8lK-v4S4#t=57


Do you think Rumitoid and some of the other l*****ts will get the picture. I doubt it but one can hope.

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Jul 14, 2014 14:35:30   #
Homestead
 
oldroy wrote:
Please watch this video and find that New York has started the confiscation of guns no matter what people think. I don't think the law passed late at night will affect me and my guns but so many more people will be affected in New York. I can see the gun owners getting riled to the point of revolution from this story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeR8lK-v4S4#t=57



Anyone that has not heard this link, needs to do so.
I've posted it a couple of times and each time I have to look for it because it keeps getting deleted from where I last found it.
It's 104 minutes long.
If you care about Vets and about the second amendment, it is a must watch.


FULL INTERVIEW- VA Psychiatrist Exposes National Gun Confiscation Program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ppVC6cTpxY

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Jul 14, 2014 15:20:01   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
oldroy wrote:
Please watch this video and find that New York has started the confiscation of guns no matter what people think. I don't think the law passed late at night will affect me and my guns but so many more people will be affected in New York. I can see the gun owners getting riled to the point of revolution from this story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeR8lK-v4S4#t=57

See the international gun control law proposed by Adolf Hitler in 1934-35 (sic.) it was the Sullivan Law (N.Y.C.1934) on steroids thankfully the League of Nations shot it down, not so for the U.N. whose international gun registry law is what Hitler's was, it was signed to law by Hillary Clinton in her post as Secretary Fuehrer to the Obama Emirate, on September 2012.
This is when the sovereignty of this country was surrendered to Qatar through the U.N. F*****t Apparatus, by the enemy-combatant cretin-in-chief in D.C., devoid of protest or review, in Cuba as well the first of many prohibitions included that of firearms, in every tyranny it is firearms that must first go, either attached to the owners or confiscated from the homes.

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Jul 14, 2014 15:27:24   #
Patty
 
rodulfo-tardo wrote:
See the international gun control law proposed by Adolf Hitler in 1934-35 (sic.) it was the Sullivan Law (N.Y.C.1934) on steroids thankfully the League of Nations shot it down, not so for the U.N. whose international gun registry law is what Hitler's was, it was signed to law by Hillary Clinton in her post as Secretary Fuehrer to the Obama Emirate, on September 2012.
This is when the sovereignty of this country was surrendered to Qatar through the U.N. F*****t Apparatus, by the enemy-combatant cretin-in-chief in D.C., devoid of protest or review, in Cuba as well the first of many prohibitions included that of firearms, in every tyranny it is firearms that must first go, either attached to the owners or confiscated from the homes.
See the international gun control law proposed by ... (show quote)


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Jul 14, 2014 15:38:32   #
Homestead
 
rodulfo-tardo wrote:
See the international gun control law proposed by Adolf Hitler in 1934-35 (sic.) it was the Sullivan Law (N.Y.C.1934) on steroids thankfully the League of Nations shot it down, not so for the U.N. whose international gun registry law is what Hitler's was, it was signed to law by Hillary Clinton in her post as Secretary Fuehrer to the Obama Emirate, on September 2012.
This is when the sovereignty of this country was surrendered to Qatar through the U.N. F*****t Apparatus, by the enemy-combatant cretin-in-chief in D.C., devoid of protest or review, in Cuba as well the first of many prohibitions included that of firearms, in every tyranny it is firearms that must first go, either attached to the owners or confiscated from the homes.
See the international gun control law proposed by ... (show quote)


Obama's similarities to Hitler ~ A must hear speech by Kitty Werthmann
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snFEg7EGaqk

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Jul 14, 2014 15:45:21   #
chipvpb
 
The mainstream media is on the goverments side and are obviously controled by the goverment.

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Jul 14, 2014 17:02:29   #
bahmer
 
Homestead wrote:
Obama's similarities to Hitler ~ A must hear speech by Kitty Werthmann
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snFEg7EGaqk


Totally awesome the liberals h**e her I'm sure.

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Jul 14, 2014 17:02:49   #
bahmer
 
chipvpb wrote:
The mainstream media is on the goverments side and are obviously controled by the goverment.


True

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Jul 14, 2014 17:26:24   #
Comment Loc: California
 
rich278 wrote:
I'm sorry you missed the point, I'll type slower this time. If a person buys a hunting license there is a good chance he may own a gun. I never mentioned any requirements, but the state I live in requires gun safety training. I may have purchased more hunting licenses than you and I may have more guns than you. I get sick to my stomach when I see gun toting fools k**l 20 first graders, then piss and moan when the government would like to limit the size of clip. The point is if the government wants your guns they will get them. If they have to pry them from your cold dead fingers they will. The Government has never taken any firearms from any law biding citizen, and never will, but keep sending your money into the NRA, and don't forget to b***h about paying taxes.
I'm sorry you missed the point, I'll type slower t... (show quote)


Guns are the insurance that the people can stand against a tyrannical government. Guns are but a symbol of freedom. Rich, supposed all guns were naught. Men fought wars and 60,000- even a 100,000 poor sole were k**led on the Roman planes. According to your insurance policy against murder. 60--70 thousand poor soles are k**led on the roadways; and yet, I see not your protests about banning cars. TNT can be made by just about anyone who knows how to look up cooking TNT on the web. A lot of peope k**l when they are high on drugs or, they k**l for drugs. I don't see you protesting for the banning of Weed, pain k**lers and the like. A crazed can fo into a Sandy Hook elementary school and slit the throat of 59 kids in ten minutes. Are you going to ban knives and eat stake like a cave man? It appears to me that you have tunnel vision. Cant see freedom, only crazy people. And you can remove guns but you still can't stop them from k*****g.

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Jul 14, 2014 17:37:45   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
Homestead wrote:
Obama's similarities to Hitler ~ A must hear speech by Kitty Werthmann
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snFEg7EGaqk

The similarities are by design, it was Hitler's organizational crisis manipulation that gave the sense of urgency and distraction edge, see how Obama's strategies are the same, there is one constant in tyranny, the recipe is the same, like a heart attack it does not change because of time, two hours or two thousand years it is a heart attack.
Hitler was the first to use what was then modern communications for his deceptions and manipulation of an e*****rate caught between an Empire and Democracy, it was easy to invent/magnify threats given the primitive conditions outside the large more cosmopolitan regions where the industry was headquartered and the banks held the import/export industries, the first thing to go where there was the hope of modernity; the facts were not the same on paper or reality, it was the total government of a centralized control, the health care, extended benefits for the "proletariat" were straight from the Marxist diatribe, in this comparison the conditions are identical albeit a more developed one the use of diverse-tolerance and political-correctness set the stage for a new and improved technique to subjugate the masses and bring uncertainty to the political immersion into self-respect and submissive acceptance of the indoctrination that allows social-minutia to become the political-policy of a nation like a cable 'reality show' it is clear the more a government talks racial justice, the closer r****t-hygiene and political-autopsy will be part of an ascending tyranny that begins with the gradually increasing F*****t policies of political-sharia, what the basis for absolute control was, call it the Tehcir Laws from the Ottomans, the precursor to the policies of the N.S.D.A.P., talk of "similarities" how this for coincidental coincidences to explain, in the campaign cycles of 1928 and 1930 the N**i slogan was "the Rainbow Coalition" it got them the highest v**e proportionately since they began in 1920, asides from the health programs there was the "Winter Relief Act" an enhanced welfare system that was exclusive to the party members only, the Gun Control Acts in Germany were tied to the health act, as well as criteria and protocol in this way they are the same; what a coincidence, coincidental circumstances are so coincidental or are they? My bet is they are not. The Night of the Long Knives is another coincidence that is hard to separate, is the coincidental incorporation of armed government agencies under one centralized vertical command structure: immune from the laws that restricts the use of force against civilians, this is the definition of a centrally policed police-state, any possibility of a social disagreement will then be viewed as an anti-government and anarchic insurgent act, this opens the reality of ethnic cleansing based on political-religious or moral defiance although it may at one time be a Constitutionally protected right, these similar coincidences go to Poland's "German Occupation" by the immigration policies to Germanify the Polish agriculture and livestock stocks. This is an evident similarity that cannot escape from the so called Amnesty and its forced migration of totally undocumented possibles as the needed catalyst for martial law, when these "Occupy the Military Bases" mercenaries imported for the Emir's coming out party, an officially suspended Constitution and martial law are imminent.
The N**i Einsatzgruppen is the ISIS-ISIL-IS, this is imminent endgame for the American failed state, under this Constitutionally elected tyranny and the effective dictatorial status which is slowly being exposed. Poland is a perfect comparative it is what Austria would have become had they not v**ed N.S.D.A.P. the Fuehrer had his troops on the borders and infiltrated within the police and the population there was the N**i Apparatus ready to create a justification for a military incursion one exception being the "canned goods" use in Poland would be fresh meat. This c**p d'e'tat was planned in 2004's Mid Term e******ns at this time, "Progressives" from both sides saw an opportunity to seize control, were it not G.W.Bush's perseverance the 9-11-01 attacks would have introduced a "truce" by the Qatari favorite Al'Gore, there is no way to politically-correct the narrative, it is impossible to "redefine" facts, something that this "administration" does as matter of fact, whether real or imagined it makes no difference to the facts that are indisputably treasonous betrayal of what was the United States, now a filed stateless state another coincidentally coincidental case of similarity of "Nation Suicide" it is how the options are eliminated gradually at first but this changes faster than imagined, the Rainbow Coalition looses color very fast, when freedom property and conditional perceptions become a thing of the past.

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Jul 15, 2014 15:18:54   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
rich278 wrote:
I know the routine, like I said I am a lifetime h****r, shooter, I own many guns, I taught my son the shooting and hunting sports. I don't know of any the require multi round clips, the shooter in AZ that shot MS Gifford was taken down by a woman when he was reloading. I'm sure it wouldn't have taken much to tip over the kid at Sandy Hook. I can go to town today and buy any amount of ammo I can find and pay for, but I can only buy 1 box of antihistamine. It would be a simple fix, I don't think these rampage k**lers plan too far ahead to stock up. To get a drivers license one has to take a few tests, but to buy a gun you just need cash.
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Lets see, Rich. Why is there that limit on antihistamines? For some reason I thought it had to do with the production of a drug that is very evil for the people who use it. I even know of a drive in establishment I always liked to go to that got closed down because they were cooking that stuff in the kitchen. I miss the place but sure not the drug.

You are an anti-gunner, at all costs, aren't you. Do you know what happened in Germany in the 1930s and in Russia about 1920 with guns and the confiscation of them?

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Jul 15, 2014 15:31:51   #
Homestead
 
rich278 wrote:
I know the routine, like I said I am a lifetime h****r, shooter, I own many guns, I taught my son the shooting and hunting sports. I don't know of any the require multi round clips, the shooter in AZ that shot MS Gifford was taken down by a woman when he was reloading. I'm sure it wouldn't have taken much to tip over the kid at Sandy Hook. I can go to town today and buy any amount of ammo I can find and pay for, but I can only buy 1 box of antihistamine. It would be a simple fix, I don't think these rampage k**lers plan too far ahead to stock up. To get a drivers license one has to take a few tests, but to buy a gun you just need cash.
I know the routine, like I said I am a lifetime h*... (show quote)


Timothy McVeigh k**led 168 people and didn't fire a shot.

I find it interesting that you're not as concerned with the murdering of people, as you are with the weapon used.


Why fertilizer can be an explosive mixture
Some fertilizer factories use ammonium nitrate, a cheap substance that can also be used to make bombs
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/why-fertilizer-can-be-an-explosive-mixture-1.1307757

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