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May 25, 2020 13:13:11   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
permafrost wrote:
While I have been i jail 2 times, both were local and only a couple hours each.. and a very long time ago.

never considered your question.. I have however had a conversation with a lady I worked with who had a brother locked up in Minnesotans top security prison.. next to Stillwater Mn. and I can not come up with the name..

She was very upset and went on and on about the strict regulation and time of every activity..the earning of privileges and the unofficial behavior of guards and the correction staff.

However I have been told that by other nation standards, our prisons are a cake walk..

So.. while I want no part of any prison.. I would chose the white boy operation.. hands down..

Wait.. i remember now.. the prison not remembered is Oak Park Heights.. I May be slow but sometimes I do recall...
While I have been i jail 2 times, both were local ... (show quote)



Thank you for your honest reply.

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May 25, 2020 13:14:52   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
woodguru wrote:
What did the constitution have to say about religious groups and churches being on a different set of rules than the rest of society in states?

A blue state governor has every right to set guidelines and restrictions those who put them in office support, and what makes a church so special that they as a group don't have to follow group size orders that are for the good of the whole? They congregate and have proved that large outbreaks can often occur as a result.

Give churches special privileges and exceptions and you have to give them to Muslims and other religious groups as well.

The majority elects the governance they want, and the minority has to go along with it, the e*******l college is allowing the ever shrinking minority that is the hard right to call the shots, religiously inspired actions are just part of that.
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Religious institutions are Separate from government control.

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May 25, 2020 13:27:14   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
permafrost wrote:
What would happen if the E*******l College was abolished?
America would become like every single other constitutional democracy on Earth.

The horror.

Rural white men who are nominally Christian would no longer be able to rule America despite being a minority. They would still have disproportionate power in the Senate, but they would no longer be able to elect a President without having to moderate their extremism so as to form coalitions with other groups.

The effect would be a two party system more moderate than the highly polarized one we now have, with the majority of Americans living resentfully under the oppression of an entitled dogmatic, hostile minority.

The Republicans, who would never again elect a President as long as they only represented rural reactionaries, can’t admit any of this.

So they concoct BS answers to dance around their real belief: that they have the God-given right to rule the rest of us, and democracy be damned.

They say no entrenched minority ever gives up power willingly. I don’t know how generally that’s true but it sure is true in this case. I have yet to meet a Republican who admits the t***h of what they really believe.

What’s scary is that as the challenge to their unrighteous d******n over the rest of us mounts, they’ve become more and more f*****tic / authoritarian in response.
What would happen if the E*******l College was abo... (show quote)


Huh!!!!!! Really stupid analysis with no basis in realty or facts.

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May 25, 2020 14:04:26   #
DaWg44
 
woodguru wrote:
What did the constitution have to say about religious groups and churches being on a different set of rules than the rest of society in states?

A blue state governor has every right to set guidelines and restrictions those who put them in office support, and what makes a church so special that they as a group don't have to follow group size orders that are for the good of the whole? They congregate and have proved that large outbreaks can often occur as a result.

Give churches special privileges and exceptions and you have to give them to Muslims and other religious groups as well.

The majority elects the governance they want, and the minority has to go along with it, the e*******l college is allowing the ever shrinking minority that is the hard right to call the shots, religiously inspired actions are just part of that.
What did the constitution have to say about religi... (show quote)


Mosques were not on DeBlasio or Cuomo shut down lists, never mentioned any any list I have seen. Your premise is wrong to start w/. Name 10 rich county boys girls in Congress. Looks like you are going to get exactly what you want by various forms of v***r f***d. Hope you enjoy it when there is no diesels for tractors to plow fields to feed you, no trucks to haul food to market if any exists.

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May 25, 2020 23:23:56   #
Tug484
 
permafrost wrote:
In t***h Tug, I think that the only unifying value for all Democrats is to save out country from trump and his evil..

He is in no way a conservative, only a republican for the possibility of e******n. which worked.

do not tempt me, I could post articles all day long, but truly I want to do something else in a couple hours..

So have a nice day and relax..



I disagree.

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May 26, 2020 06:35:16   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
permafrost wrote:
What would happen if the E*******l College was abolished?
America would become like every single other constitutional democracy on Earth.

The horror.

Rural white men who are nominally Christian would no longer be able to rule America despite being a minority. They would still have disproportionate power in the Senate, but they would no longer be able to elect a President without having to moderate their extremism so as to form coalitions with other groups.

The effect would be a two party system more moderate than the highly polarized one we now have, with the majority of Americans living resentfully under the oppression of an entitled dogmatic, hostile minority.

The Republicans, who would never again elect a President as long as they only represented rural reactionaries, can’t admit any of this.

So they concoct BS answers to dance around their real belief: that they have the God-given right to rule the rest of us, and democracy be damned.

They say no entrenched minority ever gives up power willingly. I don’t know how generally that’s true but it sure is true in this case. I have yet to meet a Republican who admits the t***h of what they really believe.

What’s scary is that as the challenge to their unrighteous d******n over the rest of us mounts, they’ve become more and more f*****tic / authoritarian in response.
What would happen if the E*******l College was abo... (show quote)

You may be right that Republicans may need to moderate their views to try to appeal to v**ers in Democrat urban strongholds. The Democrats by contrast hold areas that could give them the e******n win without moderating their positions.
I would instead propose keeping the e*******l college, but modify how the v**es are distributed. Whichever candidate wins the statewide popular v**e would receive the 2 e*******l v**es represented by their Senators. The remaining e*******l v**es would go to the candidate that wins the congressional district that represents that e*******l v**e. Nebraska and Maine use this system. In California in the 2016 e******n, Hillary won the statewide popular v**e and received all 55 e*******l v**es. Under my proposal, she would get 2 e*******l v**es and the remaining 53 e*******l v**es would have been divided between Hillary and Trump. Texas has 38 e*******l v**es. Trump would have received 2 and the rest would have been split. In 2000, if Florida had used this system, Al Gore may have won the presidency.
This would force candidates to truly campaign nationwide and would probably be better at forcing both parties to move back to the center. It would also give some hope to third party candidates.

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May 26, 2020 07:00:19   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
permafrost wrote:
LOL, give it up, you will never make as a stand up any better then any other life choice..


And now the shoes are on the c*******t feet, watch the w****s get wiped out, while the electricity goes out for hours daily and people line up for miles for food. South Africa just a short while ago was the breadbasket of Africa. Not any longer. The agitators have won, and millions will die horrible deaths. H**e and envy always eat their own, last.

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May 26, 2020 08:05:14   #
maureenthannon
 
perma, You seem like one of the MANY who seems like you never went to a Civics class! I admit, as a child, I thought that the E*******l College made no sense! It seemed like we should be a Democratic Society, e******ns determined by the popular v**e. What I didn't realize then was that would give the large states, New York and California, total control! The people in the other states would have no say in the government. The wealthy, powerful people in NY&CA would rule EVERYONE ELSE! The USA IS SUPPOSED TO BE OF, BY, AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST THE RICH AND POWERFUL!

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May 26, 2020 08:35:22   #
Big Kahuna
 
permafrost wrote:
What would happen if the E*******l College was abolished?
America would become like every single other constitutional democracy on Earth.

The horror.

Rural white men who are nominally Christian would no longer be able to rule America despite being a minority. They would still have disproportionate power in the Senate, but they would no longer be able to elect a President without having to moderate their extremism so as to form coalitions with other groups.

The effect would be a two party system more moderate than the highly polarized one we now have, with the majority of Americans living resentfully under the oppression of an entitled dogmatic, hostile minority.

The Republicans, who would never again elect a President as long as they only represented rural reactionaries, can’t admit any of this.

So they concoct BS answers to dance around their real belief: that they have the God-given right to rule the rest of us, and democracy be damned.

They say no entrenched minority ever gives up power willingly. I don’t know how generally that’s true but it sure is true in this case. I have yet to meet a Republican who admits the t***h of what they really believe.

What’s scary is that as the challenge to their unrighteous d******n over the rest of us mounts, they’ve become more and more f*****tic / authoritarian in response.
What would happen if the E*******l College was abo... (show quote)


Still crying about your lousy big ankled gal, Hitlery Rotten Clinton, losing to Trump. Come on little perm, man up, get on with your life, and quit making excuses for your demorat party failures!! I know you would prefer a totalitarian leader but ovommit already had his 8 years of totalitarian reign and look what we now have, more info that ovommit commited more crimes than any president in our history and he now owns Ovommitgate!!

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May 26, 2020 08:36:20   #
Big Kahuna
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Oh, how you liberals h**e the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and all of our founding principles.


(S)perm is 1 h**e filled little twit!

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May 26, 2020 08:38:17   #
Big Kahuna
 
Tug484 wrote:
Wrong!
It would be controlled by Dems from now on v**ed by the east and west coast.


It would be narrowed down to NYC and L.A. picking our President. Too much power in the hand of corrupt l*****ts and their i*****l i*******t v**ers.. No thank you. We will stick with the E*******l College.

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May 26, 2020 08:49:23   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
permafrost wrote:
What would happen if the E*******l College was abolished?
America would become like every single other constitutional democracy on Earth.

The horror.

Rural white men who are nominally Christian would no longer be able to rule America despite being a minority. They would still have disproportionate power in the Senate, but they would no longer be able to elect a President without having to moderate their extremism so as to form coalitions with other groups.

The effect would be a two party system more moderate than the highly polarized one we now have, with the majority of Americans living resentfully under the oppression of an entitled dogmatic, hostile minority.

The Republicans, who would never again elect a President as long as they only represented rural reactionaries, can’t admit any of this.

So they concoct BS answers to dance around their real belief: that they have the God-given right to rule the rest of us, and democracy be damned.

They say no entrenched minority ever gives up power willingly. I don’t know how generally that’s true but it sure is true in this case. I have yet to meet a Republican who admits the t***h of what they really believe.

What’s scary is that as the challenge to their unrighteous d******n over the rest of us mounts, they’ve become more and more f*****tic / authoritarian in response.
What would happen if the E*******l College was abo... (show quote)


No places like New York , California all the big cities would DICTATE for the whole country that is why we need the E*****rial college to even it out

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May 26, 2020 08:59:01   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
permafrost wrote:
And yet you think it is wonderful that the minority rule the country..


If that note is so perm take a real hard look at democrate run state schools they are a disaster the rest of America is waking up that our schools are way below even some poorer countries but the ones on black neighborhood should make you cry and be ashamed

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May 26, 2020 09:37:17   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
What would happen if the E*******l College was abolished?
America would become like every single other constitutional democracy on Earth.

The horror.

Rural white men who are nominally Christian would no longer be able to rule America despite being a minority. They would still have disproportionate power in the Senate, but they would no longer be able to elect a President without having to moderate their extremism so as to form coalitions with other groups.

The effect would be a two party system more moderate than the highly polarized one we now have, with the majority of Americans living resentfully under the oppression of an entitled dogmatic, hostile minority.

The Republicans, who would never again elect a President as long as they only represented rural reactionaries, can’t admit any of this.

So they concoct BS answers to dance around their real belief: that they have the God-given right to rule the rest of us, and democracy be damned.

They say no entrenched minority ever gives up power willingly. I don’t know how generally that’s true but it sure is true in this case. I have yet to meet a Republican who admits the t***h of what they really believe.

What’s scary is that as the challenge to their unrighteous d******n over the rest of us mounts, they’ve become more and more f*****tic / authoritarian in response.
What would happen if the E*******l College was abo... (show quote)


Why this hatred of rural Christian White men ? Just because they over turned your Black Marxist Anti Capitalist G****l W*****g Atheistic Big City Jive, is no reason at all to be upset.

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May 26, 2020 11:05:33   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
Kickaha wrote:
You may be right that Republicans may need to moderate their views to try to appeal to v**ers in Democrat urban strongholds. The Democrats by contrast hold areas that could give them the e******n win without moderating their positions.
I would instead propose keeping the e*******l college, but modify how the v**es are distributed. Whichever candidate wins the statewide popular v**e would receive the 2 e*******l v**es represented by their Senators. The remaining e*******l v**es would go to the candidate that wins the congressional district that represents that e*******l v**e. Nebraska and Maine use this system. In California in the 2016 e******n, Hillary won the statewide popular v**e and received all 55 e*******l v**es. Under my proposal, she would get 2 e*******l v**es and the remaining 53 e*******l v**es would have been divided between Hillary and Trump. Texas has 38 e*******l v**es. Trump would have received 2 and the rest would have been split. In 2000, if Florida had used this system, Al Gore may have won the presidency.
This would force candidates to truly campaign nationwide and would probably be better at forcing both parties to move back to the center. It would also give some hope to third party candidates.
You may be right that Republicans may need to mode... (show quote)


Liked the last line about hope for third party candidates. I have only v**ed for a major party candidate in 1960 and ever since have v**ed for third party candidates. I can only say I v**e in the hopes of making some change to the monopoly of the Rep/Dem or Dem/Rep stranglehold on the US w'hich I see as a single group of people questing for power above honor.

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