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All the advice they have given us regarding c***d19 has been bad.
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May 25, 2020 18:25:28   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
American Vet wrote:
I am not disagreeing with your comment about healthcare - but it still remains Congress’ responsibility - which would include keeping its nose out of it.


Yes, they tried once a big failure.

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May 25, 2020 18:29:33   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
eden wrote:
The C***d crisis has delivered a judgement on the the disjointed shambles known loosely as the American Health Care System. Now the Federal Govt. will have to pick up the costs associated with the p******c and pay for equipment, care and treatment in the form of a v*****e. Sound like socialized medicine? We are living with the consequence of a non-working system made worse because of Trumps personal grudge against Obama and everything he initiated.
Every time I hear a Republican rant about Obamacare I wonder...what is the Republican
Plan? (Rhetorical question because there is no such thing.) When will people understand that communal hatred of one candidate or another is not a viable political campaign platform. You need constructive and realistically attainable ideas. Bernie took the campaign off-ramp when he stubbornly clung to a socialist ideal that took away by default peoples right to make choices.
Hopefully a Biden Presidency can influence a public option alongside private healthcare for those willing to pay. This is the best hybrid system that seems to work well in other countries. Even if the public (Medicare?) option was based on a base rate of 100.00 per month with automatic subsidies for low income and unemployed that would be a massive improvement over what we have now.
If Trump is re-elected look for the morass to deepen, widen and thicken.
The C***d crisis has delivered a judgement on the ... (show quote)


We've never really had a health care system so to speak. Obammy's ACA was just part of his crime spree. The only one we had was our personal physician.

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May 25, 2020 18:48:08   #
Oceanjoe Loc: Western North Carolina-Outer Banks, NC
 
Yes.

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May 25, 2020 21:00:39   #
eden
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
We've never really had a health care system so to speak. Obammy's ACA was just part of his crime spree. The only one we had was our personal physician.


Then the “crime spree” insured some additional 14 million Americans who previously could not qualify for any kind of plan. There is plenty to criticize in the ACA but for the first time in history a lot of people had access to affordable healthcare that had never known it.

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May 26, 2020 08:12:40   #
American Vet
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
They haven't in the last 4 years, have they? In fact, they try to add to the migrants for some unknown reason, they don't care about them. How about this? Give it to the Senate since obviously Congress can't or won't do it and let them fix it. I think within a month we'll see some changes.


Congress is composed of the Senate and the House of Reps - so I assume you meant to say "House".

But like it or not - that is the way our system works. Until the rational democrats regain control of their party, the ELWNJs will continue to try and subvert America.

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May 26, 2020 08:21:38   #
American Vet
 
eden wrote:
Then the “crime spree” insured some additional 14 million Americans who previously could not qualify for any kind of plan. There is plenty to criticize in the ACA but for the first time in history a lot of people had access to affordable healthcare that had never known it.


Incorrect: Take note of the very first sentence.

> Today, 45 percent of U.S. adults ages 19 to 64 are inadequately insured — nearly the same as in 2010 — though important shifts have taken place.
> Compared to 2010, many fewer adults are uninsured today, and the duration of coverage gaps people experience has shortened significantly.
> Despite actions by the Trump administration and Congress to weaken the ACA, the adult uninsured rate was 12.4 percent in 2018 in this survey, statistically unchanged from the last time we fielded the survey in 2016.
More people who have coverage are underinsured now than in 2010, with the greatest increase occurring among those in employer plans.
> People who are underinsured or spend any time uninsured report cost-related problems getting care and difficulty paying medical bills at higher rates than those with continuous, adequate coverage.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2019/feb/health-insurance-coverage-eight-years-after-aca

"The ACA is applauded for increasing the number of insured, quite appropriately as that has occurred for over 20 million people. Less frequently mentioned are the 6 million who have lost their insurance. Further, in terms of how health insurance is been provided, the majority the expansion was based on Medicaid expansion, with an increase of 13 million. Consequently, the ACA hasn’t worked well for the working and middle class who receive much less support, particularly those who earn more than 400% of the federal poverty level, who constitute 40% of the population and don’t receive any help. As a result, exchange enrollment has been a disappointment and the percentage of workers obtaining their health benefits from their employer has decreased steadily. Access to health care has been uneven, with those on Medicaid hampered by narrow networks, while those on the exchanges or getting employer benefits have faced high out-of-pocket costs."
https://www.painphysicianjournal.com/current/pdf?article=NDMwMg%3D%3D&journal=104

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