All the advice they have given us regarding c***d19 has been bad.
May 24, 2020 15:59:04 #
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I should probably comment on that too, since I hav... (show quote)
My crack about Trump “University” was twofold but you missed the underlying part about something that was shut down by the Feds as an obvious s**m for which he was forced to pay 25 million to compensate his “students”. Evidence of mendacity so conveniently forgotten.
May 24, 2020 16:07:33 #
eden wrote:
I don’t want to comment on the tribal warfare because neither side listens to the other and I wouldn’t carry water for either party. If the GOP is your team then I understand the reflexive defense but if you drill down you will find Independents don’t really care what party the President is from, only that they hold moderate views and maintain America’s position as power broker in a democratic western alliance way abroad and fix immigration and healthcare in a fair and humane way.
The President cannot (and should not) fix immigration and healthcare. That is the bailiwick of Congress - therein lies the problem (both sides).
May 24, 2020 16:12:33 #
eden wrote:
My crack about Trump “University” was twofold but you missed the underlying part about something that was shut down by the Feds as an obvious s**m for which he was forced to pay 25 million to compensate his “students”. Evidence of mendacity so conveniently forgotten.
It went over my head. Maybe I'm doing the same thing the Democrats are doing by ignoring all the stuff going on in their camp.
May 24, 2020 16:13:16 #
American Vet wrote:
The President cannot (and should not) fix immigration and healthcare. That is the bailiwick of Congress - therein lies the problem (both sides).
Immigration and healthcare are separate issues, government needs to keep it's nose out of health care.
The government is required to provide for the common defense of the US citizens.
May 24, 2020 16:16:55 #
bilordinary wrote:
Immigration and healthcare are separate issues, government needs to keep it's nose out of health care.
The government is required to provide for the common defense of the US citizens.
The government is required to provide for the common defense of the US citizens.
I am not disagreeing with your comment about healthcare - but it still remains Congress’ responsibility - which would include keeping its nose out of it.
May 24, 2020 16:27:01 #
American Vet wrote:
I am not disagreeing with your comment about healthcare - but it still remains Congress’ responsibility - which would include keeping its nose out of it.
A good leader tries to solve the problems before him. The immigration issue has been tossed around for too many years with no action coming forth. One of his platform points was immigration. Why would anyone be surprised that he is doing something about it. Even with much opposition. Most Americans realize we have an immigration problem, even if some won't admit it. I saw many change overnight with the e******n of DJT.
May 24, 2020 17:30:23 #
American Vet wrote:
The President cannot (and should not) fix immigration and healthcare. That is the bailiwick of Congress - therein lies the problem (both sides).
Correct but the President has enormous influence and can set a positive tone to the conversation......or feed the worst demons in our psyche about “others” in a crude political calculation that sets us against each other.
May 24, 2020 17:59:36 #
bilordinary wrote:
Immigration and healthcare are separate issues, government needs to keep it's nose out of health care.
The government is required to provide for the common defense of the US citizens.
The government is required to provide for the common defense of the US citizens.
The C***d crisis has delivered a judgement on the the disjointed shambles known loosely as the American Health Care System. Now the Federal Govt. will have to pick up the costs associated with the p******c and pay for equipment, care and treatment in the form of a v*****e. Sound like socialized medicine? We are living with the consequence of a non-working system made worse because of Trumps personal grudge against Obama and everything he initiated.
Every time I hear a Republican rant about Obamacare I wonder...what is the Republican
Plan? (Rhetorical question because there is no such thing.) When will people understand that communal hatred of one candidate or another is not a viable political campaign platform. You need constructive and realistically attainable ideas. Bernie took the campaign off-ramp when he stubbornly clung to a socialist ideal that took away by default peoples right to make choices.
Hopefully a Biden Presidency can influence a public option alongside private healthcare for those willing to pay. This is the best hybrid system that seems to work well in other countries. Even if the public (Medicare?) option was based on a base rate of 100.00 per month with automatic subsidies for low income and unemployed that would be a massive improvement over what we have now.
If Trump is re-elected look for the morass to deepen, widen and thicken.
May 24, 2020 18:34:02 #
eden wrote:
Correct but the President has enormous influence and can set a positive tone to the conversation......or feed the worst demons in our psyche about “others” in a crude political calculation that sets us against each other.
That is certainly correct. I remember how much obama fed the demon of d******eness.
The ‘bully pulpit’ is powerful - but those Congress critters are ‘closer to home’ and can exert their influence.
May 25, 2020 15:54:42 #
May 25, 2020 18:02:33 #
bilordinary wrote:
A sterile environment produces a weak i****e s****m.
The only correct thing is the v***s can be a k**ler. The rest is just a power/control grab
May 25, 2020 18:11:40 #
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I should probably comment on that too, since I hav... (show quote)
You shouldn't bother, we all know that he didn't really say that. A simple innocent question that they lied and blew up to something like Lincoln shot John Wilkes Booth. He simply asked for a way to clean our insides (it would help our bodies if there really were such a thing), but there isn't.
May 25, 2020 18:14:32 #
eden wrote:
I don’t want to comment on the tribal warfare because neither side listens to the other and I wouldn’t carry water for either party. If the GOP is your team then I understand the reflexive defense but if you drill down you will find Independents don’t really care what party the President is from, only that they hold moderate views and maintain America’s position as power broker in a democratic western alliance way abroad and fix immigration and healthcare in a fair and humane way.
hm, I'm an independent and NO WAY will you find me v****g for c****es. A veteran too so I guess that plays part.
May 25, 2020 18:19:02 #
American Vet wrote:
The President cannot (and should not) fix immigration and healthcare. That is the bailiwick of Congress - therein lies the problem (both sides).
They haven't in the last 4 years, have they? In fact, they try to add to the migrants for some unknown reason, they don't care about them. How about this? Give it to the Senate since obviously Congress can't or won't do it and let them fix it. I think within a month we'll see some changes.
May 25, 2020 18:22:46 #
bilordinary wrote:
Immigration and healthcare are separate issues, government needs to keep it's nose out of health care.
The government is required to provide for the common defense of the US citizens.
The government is required to provide for the common defense of the US citizens.
Yes so in that case the President can and maybe should step in. Or he can just leave what's called immigration, I call it larceny or illegal entry as it is today. On second thought he hasn't successfully closed the border has he? Close it completely.
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