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All the advice they have given us regarding c***d19 has been bad.
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May 24, 2020 05:18:21   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
A sterile environment produces a weak i****e s****m.

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May 24, 2020 05:32:28   #
eden
 
Sterile weak leadership produces a catastrophic outcome.

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May 24, 2020 07:16:20   #
Liberty Tree
 
eden wrote:
Sterile weak leadership produces a catastrophic outcome.


We know because we see the Democrat governors in action. Just issuing fiats to control the people is not leadership.

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May 24, 2020 07:21:25   #
American Vet
 
eden wrote:
Sterile weak leadership produces a catastrophic outcome.


Correctomundo: We had that for 8 years....

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May 24, 2020 08:39:24   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
eden wrote:
Sterile weak leadership produces a catastrophic outcome.


I know what you're trying to say, but how does one look at the condition of this Country prior to the v***s and how the Democrat controlled states have handled this mess and seriously contend that. There is one reason they are digging in their heals about opening up the states - the orders from Democrat headquarters are: Do nothing that might tend to reflect favorably on Trump and do everything you can to make him look bad. That's the long and short of it, Eden, proven by Democrat action over the past 4 years.

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May 24, 2020 10:28:53   #
Forkbassman Loc: Missouri
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I know what you're trying to say, but how does one look at the condition of this Country prior to the v***s and how the Democrat controlled states have handled this mess and seriously contend that. There is one reason they are digging in their heals about opening up the states - the orders from Democrat headquarters are: Do nothing that might tend to reflect favorably on Trump and do everything you can to make him look bad. That's the long and short of it, Eden, proven by Democrat action over the past 4 years.
I know what you're trying to say, but how does one... (show quote)


You are exactly right! They have one goal: take out Trump & get control. What happens if they get control? What have they always done: raise taxes & more regs. Their actions since Trump has been POTUS says it all. In my opinion, many of dems are mentally ill; just look & listen to Maxine Waters as early as yesterday! Does anyone REALLY believe Biden can run America the next 4 years?

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May 24, 2020 12:09:58   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Forkbassman wrote:
You are exactly right! They have one goal: take out Trump & get control. What happens if they get control? What have they always done: raise taxes & more regs. Their actions since Trump has been POTUS says it all. In my opinion, many of dems are mentally ill; just look & listen to Maxine Waters as early as yesterday! Does anyone REALLY believe Biden can run America the next 4 years?


Gee whiz, he can't even get his mouth to run right for 4 minutes, 4 years?

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May 24, 2020 15:19:09   #
eden
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I know what you're trying to say, but how does one look at the condition of this Country prior to the v***s and how the Democrat controlled states have handled this mess and seriously contend that. There is one reason they are digging in their heals about opening up the states - the orders from Democrat headquarters are: Do nothing that might tend to reflect favorably on Trump and do everything you can to make him look bad. That's the long and short of it, Eden, proven by Democrat action over the past 4 years.
I know what you're trying to say, but how does one... (show quote)


More or less correct prognostication about
the Democrats but what do you expect? They want to win just like the GOP. Lest we not forget 8 years of hysterical attempts to get Obama out of office with of course the added spice of race (played by both sides but extra relish on the part of America that wanted bigotry unchained.)
As far as making Trump look bad the Dems should just stand back and let him self immolate. Trump is not the worst President we have had. No, he is just the worst EXCUSE for a President we have had and the other worst part is that many of his own party privately agree with that. (Check out the list of Republicans from all offices that have resigned or gone Independent because of his antics, not to mention the Lincoln project that is actively campaigning against him.)

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May 24, 2020 15:27:02   #
eden
 
bilordinary wrote:
Gee whiz, he can't even get his mouth to run right for 4 minutes, 4 years?


Right now Biden could not speak again and win. Fortunately for all his faults he will listen to his cabinet in most matters, unlike pompous King Donnie who doesn’t need no stinkin’ naggin’ advisors to tell him what to do because he is an expert on everything with his medical degrees from Trump University and all...

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May 24, 2020 15:33:51   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
eden wrote:
More or less correct prognostication about
the Democrats but what do you expect? They want to win just like the GOP. Lest we not forget 8 years of hysterical attempts to get Obama out of office with of course the added spice of race (played by both sides but extra relish on the part of America that wanted bigotry unchained.)
As far as making Trump look bad the Dems should just stand back and let him self immolate. Trump is not the worst President we have had. No, he is just the worst EXCUSE for a President we have had and the other worst part is that many of his own party privately agree with that. (Check out the list of Republicans from all offices that have resigned or gone Independent because of his antics, not to mention the Lincoln project that is actively campaigning against him.)
More or less correct prognostication about br the ... (show quote)


Of course you're right Eden. I understand that the Democrats want to win as well as the Republicans and I don't blame them for wanting that. However, I do expect them to do it legally, which they obviously haven't, hence all of the hullabaloo of Durham's investigation into the many illegal activities of the Dems. I also don't blame the Dems for not wanting to get caught, but at some point they are going to have to face the music and dance. The thing that really galls me is that they turn around and accuse the Republicans of doing exactly what they themselves have been doing and their accomplices in the media back them up 100%. It's pretty hard to beat that isn't it. Kinda like playing poker with a loaded deck.

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May 24, 2020 15:38:51   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Of course you're right Eden. I understand that the Democrats want to win as well as the Republicans and I don't blame them for wanting that. However, I do expect them to do it legally, which they obviously haven't, hence all of the hullabaloo of Durham's investigation into the many illegal activities of the Dems. I also don't blame the Dems for not wanting to get caught, but at some point they are going to have to face the music and dance. The thing that really galls me is that they turn around and accuse the Republicans of doing exactly what they themselves have been doing and their accomplices in the media back them up 100%. It's pretty hard to beat that isn't it. Kinda like playing poker with a loaded deck.
Of course you're right Eden. I understand that th... (show quote)


Poker? Democrats Wild.

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May 24, 2020 15:43:53   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
eden wrote:
Right now Biden could not speak again and win. Fortunately for all his faults he will listen to his cabinet in most matters, unlike pompous King Donnie who doesn’t need no stinkin’ naggin’ advisors to tell him what to do because he is an expert on everything with his medical degrees from Trump University and all...


I should probably comment on that too, since I have nothing better to do and it isn't happy hour yet. The medical part that is. All the film-flam about Trump giving out medical advice is nothing but a bunch of crap. Do you Democrats mean to tell me that you think you have been abused because Trump advised you to drink Clorox or shoot up Lysol? You have to be kidding. If you took that as medical advice then you have more problems that I am not going to be able to fix. I heard what he said. Trump's critics are just taking that as another attempt at derailing him. I don't know why I'm even trying to defend something that doesn't need defending.

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May 24, 2020 15:48:51   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I should probably comment on that too, since I have nothing better to do and it isn't happy hour yet. The medical part that is. All the film-flam about Trump giving out medical advice is nothing but a bunch of crap. Do you Democrats mean to tell me that you think you have been abused because Trump advised you to drink Clorox or shoot up Lysol? You have to be kidding. If you took that as medical advice then you have more problems that I am not going to be able to fix. I heard what he said. Trump's critics are just taking that as another attempt at derailing him. I don't know why I'm even trying to defend something that doesn't need defending.
I should probably comment on that too, since I hav... (show quote)


What is amounts to is that, there is no excuse for democrats.

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May 24, 2020 15:51:37   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
bilordinary wrote:
What is amounts to is that, there is no excuse for democrats.


None, at least that isn't downright dishonest.

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May 24, 2020 15:53:49   #
eden
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Of course you're right Eden. I understand that the Democrats want to win as well as the Republicans and I don't blame them for wanting that. However, I do expect them to do it legally, which they obviously haven't, hence all of the hullabaloo of Durham's investigation into the many illegal activities of the Dems. I also don't blame the Dems for not wanting to get caught, but at some point they are going to have to face the music and dance. The thing that really galls me is that they turn around and accuse the Republicans of doing exactly what they themselves have been doing and their accomplices in the media back them up 100%. It's pretty hard to beat that isn't it. Kinda like playing poker with a loaded deck.
Of course you're right Eden. I understand that th... (show quote)


I don’t want to comment on the tribal warfare because neither side listens to the other and I wouldn’t carry water for either party. If the GOP is your team then I understand the reflexive defense but if you drill down you will find Independents don’t really care what party the President is from, only that they hold moderate views and maintain America’s position as power broker in a democratic western alliance way abroad and fix immigration and healthcare in a fair and humane way.

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