lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Interesting... My niece born and raised in Switzerland attended college free of charge other than her personal expenses based on their merit system.. Grades, excellent grades “ slotted you” for continued education or the work force , graduating at the age of 15/16 when she was involved...

If you didn’t have the required grade average but wanted to attend college you could but the cost was solely your responsibility.. Also their was a two tier system to the advancement to college if granted by the government.. Two and four years measured by your continued grade average and attendance.. first two years in, out if you didn't maintain and four if you did.....She left after 2, the pressure to perform and wanting to get on with a job outweighed what she went through..

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

I like this idea very much.. A way to attract for specific jobs~ science, math, Research, Physicist etc.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Some people just don't like someone else getting stuff for free, stuff that THEY pay for, and I can't say I blame them. Here's where I diverge though:

The amount of Government largess directed at government employees, both civil service and elected, make the amount spent on school lunches, snap and similar programs...................look like pocket change.

From County, State all the way to the Federal government, tax payers pay for office snacks ( my hwy dept spends over $13,000 a year on coffee & soda ), per diem ( which pays for meals ) and many other goodies. Regular blue collar workers pay for their own meals & travel costs, both at work and at home, so why are we compensating Government employees ( who are typically paid better then their blue collar fellows ) for meals and travel in addition to their salaries?

I don't like folks getting stuff for free either, but we're beating the wrong horse. The poor don't have a choice about their condition, so we should be pointing the finger at the REAL taxpayer moochers.

Lonewolf

Doctor Dave Loc: Madisonville, Tx.

Canuckus, how is student financial support done in Canada?

Fodaoson Loc: South Texas

program cost 67.3 billion each airplane 150 million

Lonewolf

It's paid on a sliding scale the rich pay more the poor less.
This is how healthcare should be paid.

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/article86282967.html

Did you read this article?

Scroll down to paragraph 6-9.

I don’t think sports, P.E, student “gathering places” (the local coffee shops work just fine), extracurricular activities, Professor face time, tutoring serves are a good way to get academic support (even “quizzes”), most of the “political movements” are inspired by “liberal arts” classes and “relationships” with professors, (maybe this would at least cool off the propaganda), are priorities. They claim US universities develop better stronger critical thinking sk**ls, consider what’s going on at these universities and support that claim.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Ouch.....

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Where'd you come up with this?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

There are scholarships and other programs... And student loans...

Depending on the major, a percentage of the student loan will be forgiven upon graduation...

For certain majors another percentage will be forgiven if the individual stays to work in the country.. For example doctors...

Student loan have still resulted in an increase in student fees....

American Vet

How many of the poor "don't have a choice"? I think you are opening a real philosophical can of worms with that statement. Few people are poor because they simply are unable to do better. Many are poor because they chose to be that way.

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

Riiiight

Some? Would that be 2%? 10%?

How many of the rich got their money from mommy and daddy?

How many of the poor had access to high end private schools?

How many of the rich “insured” their profits through lobbying?

How many of the poor get access to the major influencers?

Before you slap the “deserve to be poor” label on folks realize that the plutocracy is framing the argument to favor themselves and protect their “way of life”.

If you believe that a majority of the poor “deserve” to be poor. You’ve been had.

Both the foolish and the genuinely helpless represent small minorities within this population.

What’s needed is empowerment. Not classist rhetoric from either those who condemn them as “deserving” to be poor or those who infantilize them as being helpless.

American Vet

First, you seem to be focusing on "rich". I made no comment about being rich. There is a large gap between poor and rich - it's called 'middle class' (for lack of a better term). And most people can get there if they are willing to work.

"Some? Would that be 2%? 10%?" Please note I was careful to not assign a number. I do not know if any research has been done on that. Feel free to find the info.

"How many of the rich got their money from mommy and daddy?" So I work hard all my life, earn my money, and I choose to give it to my children - Nothing wrong with that. My money, my business.

"How many of the poor had access to high end private schools?" Education is great - but that is not a prerequisite to being 'middle class'.

"How many of the rich “insured” their profits through lobbying?" Not germaine to this discussion.

"How many of the poor get access to the major influencers?" Again, not Germaine to this discussion.

"Before you slap the “deserve to be poor” label on folks realize that the plutocracy is framing the argument to favor themselves and protect their “way of life”."
I did not say that anyone deserves to be poor (you reek of liberalism when you lie): I stated some people choose to be poor.

"What’s needed is empowerment." There is empowerment. It's called the freedom to go as far as your ability and personal initiative will take you.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

I like what you said about empowerment. I was 4'11" and 102 lbs when I graduated from high school. All the other guys got good paying jobs in sawmills but no body would hire me for one of those good jobs. I joined the service and they fed me so well I doubled in size.. When I got out I got me one of those jobs. Later on I got to be a Union carpenter. I have never been out of work since.. When I became a contractor I put an ad in the paper "Hungry Carpenter needs work."--- Tell you what that newspaper ad was worth a fortune.. I have not advertised in 20 years now-- All my work comes from word of mouth. All I had to do was do what I said I was going to do.