Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Feel perfectly free to do exactly that. I don't mind. I'd do that too if it did any good, but 50 years at it tells me it doesn't work.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Damn, are you hot this morning!! Keep it coming since it is so good. I have changed over to your way of thinking and am buying more weapons, mostly that I can buy ammo for. I am going to be ready for THEM when they get here.

Yankee Clipper

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

If morality does no good, why do you think that a lack of morality is what is wrong with this country's government?

What you have said ridiculous. Either morality does good, or the lack of morality is not the problem.

Yankee Clipper

[quote=Augustus Greatorex]Tasine, vigilantism is immoral. What distinguishes you from the politicians you revile?The moral desire to remove those who are doing harm to society as a whole, evil and chaos cannot be given free rein by the criminal and corrupt elements of society. The easiest way is to correct the situation is to remove them as an issue. Yes, k**l them!

Vigilantism may or may not be immoral, but is used when the powers that be cannot or will not clean things up, at that point what else is left? Yea, some innocents were wrongly hanged, but the courts wrongly execute people too. The Old West was cleaned up to a sizable extent by vigilantes.

vigilance committee
n.
A volunteer group of citizens that without authority assumes powers such as pursuing and punishing those suspected of being criminals or offenders.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
vigilance committee
n
(in the US) a self-appointed body of citizens organized to maintain order, punish crime, etc., where an efficient system of courts does not exist
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003
vig′ilance commit`tee
n.
an unauthorized group of citizens organized to maintain order and mete out punishment in the absence of a regular court.
[1825–35, Amer.]
Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

[quote=Yankee Clipper]

In lowering your standards you defeat yourself.

Yankee Clipper

I don't see living in bondage as a moral choice, the real moral choice is to stand up to the evil doers. There are no grey areas here, just black and white, either you live an immoral life of bondage or you live a moral live of freedoms and liberty. The choice is yours.

I am not making a moral judgement of how you want to live, that's your business. I prefer to live free and die free, or die trying to bring freedom about.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

Freedom begins with one's thoughts. You are only a s***e, if you think you are a s***e. The left controls people by limiting their perceived options. That is the problem we have with our politicians is this false perception of limited options.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Just a quote or two:

“I am aware that many object to the severity of my language; but is there not cause for severity? I will be as harsh as t***h, and as uncompromising as justice. On this subject, I do not wish to think, or to speak, or write, with moderation. No! no! Tell a man whose house is on fire to give a moderate alarm; tell him to moderately rescue his wife from the hands of the ravisher; tell the mother to gradually extricate her babe from the fire into which it has fallen; — but urge me not to use moderation in a cause like the present. I am in earnest — I will not equivocate — I will not excuse — I will not retreat a single inch — AND I WILL BE HEARD.”
― William Lloyd Garrison

“Whenever I hear anyone arguing for s***ery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.”
― Abraham Lincoln

“Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be s***es.”
― Henry David Thoreau

“I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous - if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they ens***e the minds of men.”
― Robert G. Ingersoll

“Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.”
- Frederick Douglass quotes (American Abolitionist, Lecturer, Author and S***e, 1817-1895)

“The thing worse than r*******n is the thing that causes r*******n.”
- Frederick Douglass quotes (American Abolitionist, Lecturer, Author and S***e, 1817-1895)

Yankee Clipper

You very well could have a good point there, I will mull on it some.

Yankee Clipper

Very good!