nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Jedi, do you honestly see today's southern immigrants as equivalent to the pilgrims????? But then again, the pilgrims brought diseases to the Native Americans which k**led off a fairly large number so maybe they were right to eventually react negatively to the pilgrim invasion. So yes, maybe it IS the same. This is our country now and the influx of these millions, probably closer to 40 million total, is harmful to our country, our culture and our way of life.

JediKnight

How you and others can so easily overlook that the country was "stolen" from Native Indians and others who lived here centuries before the Pilgrims is beyond me. You seem to have no remorse, sympathy, or empathy for those you robbed - yet have the audacity to believe that those immigrants -who seek the same freedoms and right to life that the Pilgrims fled England for - are wrong for wanting a better life for their families. How do you justify such mean callousness?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I don't over look what you are saying but, that being said, every tribe in the Americas at that time took their land by war with and conquest of other tribes who were there before them. The arrival of the white man was simply a continuation of that.

Once again, that being said, will the immigrant numbers become so great that they might try to make war with us to make the country their own? They certainly seem unwilling to assimilate and become part of the USA.

JediKnight

I have found very little concerning the history of the Native Tribes before the white man came. However, I still don't believe "they did the same before we came" is a good reason to repeat the same wrongs. Are you saying that the white man "waged war" on the Natives just so they could steal their land? As I recall history, it was the Natives who prevented those early Pilgrims from starving and freezing to death that first winter of 1620. The Natives taught the Pilgrims how to "ice fish" -how to use virtually every piece of the animals they k**led -and later how to grow corn and wheat. Pretty sad, that for all their neighborly efforts their tribes were exterminated, and the few that remain relegated to 'reservations' with very little food or water.

I believe America's overall culture is too strong for any one group to dominate. The immigrants that I know all want to be a part of "the American dream" and just want to work, pay taxes, and enjoy the basic freedoms we as Americans take for granted. I don't believe that any of those immigrants even have a thought about "making war and taking the country for their own." If any group had that in mind, I would suspect the Japanese before any other group based on what they said after losing WWII.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

"Lo the poor Indian."

The easiest place for us to go when you go on your "shame on you nasty Republicans spree" is to remind you of the Progressive successful push for a******n rights legislation: (how can something so wrong be called a right?) Thus far well over 60 million k*****gs. No need to mention all the hedonistic behavior you celebrate and encourage or what you did to s***es. Get off your .25 cents a ride Walmart steed, your high horse, focus in tightly, and see if you are able to differentiate between i*****l a***ns and lawful immigrants. I*****l a***ns are an invasion, "an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain." We open our arms to legal immigrants while your lawless liars convince their political children there is little difference between the two.

I'm guessing you heard that some "h**e the Pilgrims for coming to America" jerks, those who have been taught that America is evil - regardless of her being the nation that has saved the world - who side with progressive anti American sentiments just vandalized Plymouth Rock painting it red.

Sir Walter Scott wrote a poem;

"Breathes there the man, with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!
Whose heart hath ne’er within him burn’d,
As home his footsteps he hath turn’d,
From wandering on a foreign strand!
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no Minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim;
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentred all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust, from whence he sprung,
Unwept, unhonour’d, and unsung."

In America today we have hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of native born Americans, followers of the Progressive philosophy and agenda, that can only find fault with America, who are so blatantly stupid they believe they can change history by tearing down statues.

JediKnight

As usual, your h**e for others you consider "less than" you speaks volumes. First, a******n has absolutely nothing to do with immigration -your bringing it up serves no more than a distraction from the original topic. As I have said before, in my opinion, YOU don't have the right to tell a woman what she can or can not do regarding her body and childbirth. Do you want women telling you to "get a vasectomy" in order to prevent unwanted child birth?

Secondly, as long as a******n is still "the law of the land" you are barking up the wrong tree. Perhaps your disdain for a******n should be directed at those who make the laws making a******n legal. Why do you constantly kick against the pricks?
Your argument on "legal vs. i*****l i*********n" is no more than a red herring. You know as well as I do, that Trump is hell bent on deporting ALL immigrants that he deems "less than desirable" -and his focus is obviously on those immigrants with brown or dark skin, which helps to explain why so many people with legal documentation are still deported....Norway is excluded -imagine that.

When Trump decided to ban all Muslims from entry into the country there was 'no thought' given to whether or not those Muslims had the necessary legal documentation to be here. Trump claims he "h**es chain immigration" - yet his wife Melania, her parents, and her siblings are all here through chain immigration. Seeing that all of his people are definitely white, its not too difficult to see Trump has a thing against people of color....NOT my president.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Wild Bill Hickok : In the first place, the Great Spirit did not give you these hills. You took this land by force. You took it from the Cheyenne, the Shoshoni, and the Arapaho. You took it with the lance and tomahawk. Now the white man makes war on you. What's the difference?

Crazy Horse : The w****s have no honor. White man wants death, comes out of season.

Wild Bill Hickok : That's a thing called progress.

Crazy Horse : A thing called greed.


What I have seen immigrants from the south do is turn local areas into Mexico, complete with Mexican f**gs flying. Very few are becoming American.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Good post!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

My God you are so warped!

Trump is not hell bent on deporting ALL immigrants any more than he banned ALL Muslims. Use the force Jedi, those are democrat lies!

JediKnight

First of all, I would question your screen play between Wild Bill and Crazy Horse - Hollywood movies are not exactly considered "real reference" material. Secondly, WHY did the white man want to wage war against the very groups of people who helped them stay alive when they first arrived? Is it typical to repay life-saving efforts with small pox, malaria, desert like reservations, and the literal breaking of every "treaty" the white man made with the Indians?

In regards to the "Mexican f**gs flying" - do you have any outrage over the "right to fly and display" the Confederate f**g? You do realize that the Confederacy lost the Civil War right? Why do people still cherish it and parade it as if they won when they lost? Do those people still need a "participation trophy" to recognize their evil intentions on separating from the union and keeping s***es? What do you think....?

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Uh oh. Take off your "I'm not real smart " hat, forget completely trying to understand nuances and if you remember how to diagram a sentence break down what I've said and compare and contrast it with what you think I said. Bubba, you've done it once again. You get something locked up tight in that liver, kidney or wh**ever it it is you keep upstairs, and you seem to get lost when anyone presents you with data or a comparative example objection. I forget the subject but you argued a point just the other day that was completely off point from the discussiom we were having.

FYI- if Trump could deport ALL ILLIGAL ALIENS I, too, would applaud him. Here is where we toss you another nuance bone that heretofore escaped you. Here we go - You sympathize with i*****l i*******ts who break our laws, invade our nation and have murdered, raped, stolen and every other imaginable crime against thousands of Americans. On the other hand because a******n is now lawful the 60 plus million children murdered in the womb is of no consequence to you, again because it's
legal. The Progressive sanctioned infant holocaust makes Hitler's holocaust look like rank amateurs instead of his crime against God and Humanity. You're like many millions of others who don't believe 60 plus million aborted children (just in the USA) is a crime against God and humanity. "It's legal" but so was s***ery once. When our GIs found the prison camps Eisenhauer insisted a photo record be made to make certain the world never forgot. Germans were ashamed.
Today the Left tries to hide a******n photos and pro-death advocated have no shame whatsoever because theyve become militant. Look how postal they went with the Kavanaugh hearings. It was nuts!

There are many other flaws in your last comment but I'll leave them to your own imaginations.

There does exist a moral equivalence between your claim of pilgrim i*****l i*********n, i*****l i*********n today, Trump being evil stopping all immigration (which he never did), your claim of legal and i*****l i*********n issues are red herrings and finally a comparison between conservative vileness for favoring legal immigration and Progressives vileness for k*****g over 60 million unborn children through legal a******n.

JediKnight

I would normally take the time and expend the effort to refute your baseless claims....but today is not one of those days.

I am okay with leaving this as; "we must agree to disagree" because I can see that you are like a pitbull when it comes to republican delusion....you won't let go until shot in the head...and I do not wish harm to anyone -which includes you. Good day to you - my time for today has expired.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Every person in the world is descended from someone who immigrated and/or stole land from others. Not only the United States. Ever heard of La Raza and Reconquista in the southwest USA?

Who flies their f**g the most in other countries? I don't know but the Americans sure seem to be over-represented in this group, especially at the Olympic games.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I presume your parting shot was directed at me but since you neglected to hit the right button who knows for certain. But I'm not letting you get away with poking me with a sharp stick and then run away.

OK, Time for corrections.

I'm a conservative not a Republican. You're a Progressive because there no longer are any legitimate Democrat.

I am a Pitbull Mastiff mix, albeit an old one, yet when it comes to defending the Faith, my family and my Country. I don't compromise for expediency or to "go along to get along." That's for sissies, and hard core progressive keyboard warriors.

Finally, before you threaten to shoot me in the head you should know that I don't drink, smoke or kiss girls other than my wife, I've still got a steady hand and fast on the draw. Walk softly.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

As more and more white men arrived, they expanded their range and basically took what they wanted. It was after they had huge numbers that the war against the Indians was waged.

The point I am making about f**gs is that these immigrants are an expansion of Mexico. They want to make the US Mexico. Many decline to speak English as if there is something sacred in their Spanish language. I don't care about the Union Jack f**g. Isn't that what it is called?