dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Both extremes think the other side is always pushing false facts. Opinions are not facts. Theories are not facts. T***h is a fact. T***h is objective. Often, the t***h can not be determined because biased opinions interfere with learning the t***h. Some want to hide the t***h at all costs. Others will deny the t***h even when it is apparent to everyone else. What are we to do with these people?

federally indicted mattoid

When you spout your theory to a gullible public - meaning millions of people - you should retract when you're bogus.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Has he been proven to be bogus?
Or, do people need to win court cases against him worth millions to prove it?
Seems to me that the mainstream, left wing media is being bled out for their bogusness nowadays.

How many cases has he lost that cost him millions for reporting propaganda?

My bad.....Im just thinking about CNN, and a host of others who are about to make an innocent kid a one percenter..........

JW

Hannity never said it was anything other than a theory but he did push the idea. Fox News officially apologized and Hannity stopped pushing it.

https://www.gq.com/story/fox-news-seth-rich-conspiracy

son of witless

Way to cover all the bases, and say nothing constructive.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

"These days you can't trust anything you read on the internet." - Abraham Lincoln

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

It's tough to soar with Eagles when you are surrounded by Turkeys.

JW

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

Maybe I’m not understanding exactly what you’re saying here.

How are you defining the overarching culture?

We have a large variety of disparate cultural identities. Multiple dialects, a person from the Bronx can barely understand someone from rural Georgia, and vice versa. The battle field of ideas is a healthy thing. Even when it gets messy. We have the super rich, the desperate poor. The middle is in trouble which is a serious problem.

At the founding of America, only men with property could v**e, women had very limited access to education, b****s were s***es, prostitution was either legal or ignored, only the very rich had access to decent medical care. I could go on.

We’ve been moving forward, sometimes haltingly. We’ve had setbacks, we’ve been at the forefront of science and technology. Not so much today.

I think most folks know that prejudice, while natural, is often destructive. I don’t agree with the silly “Victimization = Virtue” nonsense. I think this is a real problem.

I’m terribly concerned about the fault lines currently forming in America. We can’t be at each other’s throats like this and endure.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Agreed...

Like the Russian conspiracy theory pushed by the MSM...

I'm still waiting for the apology...

But I understand...

It's hard to form full sentences when one is choking on that much crow...

federally indicted mattoid

Like the "theory" that DTJr met with Russians with the understanding that he was getting dirt on Hillary? That "theory"?

Or when DJT asked Russia to find the missing emails?

Or the loan he procurred from Deutsche Bank with Russian backing? That theory?

Conspiracy is not exactly the right word, you may be right about that. Cooperation may be better.

son of witless

Thanksgiving is over, gobble gobble.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

And plenty of turkeys are still around.

JW

The overarching culture is the common one found in the public square. The one central to the nation. In the USA, the overarching culture is the fundamentally Judeo-Christian ethical, English common law legalistic, natural rights respecting governance, that American children used to be inducted into starting at their earliest point of understanding awakening.

The fault lines developing in this country are not a response to multi-culturalism but a result of multi-culturalism. Personal cultural affectations were once understood to have no bearing on how Americans interacted. Now, those are the focus of our interactions because personal cultural affectations must be honored above any respect for the common national standards of behavior. It is touted that insisting on any standard is r****t and discriminatory.

That attitude is the foundation of multi-culturalism... as in what matters is how 'I see the world'; as in your refusal to defer to my worldview is an intolerable insult.

Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek franchise is frequently cited as an achievable ideal. It portrays innumerable species functioning together effectively irrespective of their native cultures and cultural differences. What most don't seem to grasp is that all of the species, irrespective of their personal cultures are required to adhere to Starfleet standards of public conduct and behavior. Starfleet culture is the overarching culture and every member of Starfleet is mandated to behave accordingly.

We cannot function as a nation if everyone adheres to different standards and expectations. We cannot survive as a nation if we do not protect the core values that support our national identity and the core values do not change with time. I can provide further details if you wish but the bottom line is this, we think as we do not because of how we might want to change things but because of what we have had. We must realize that what we change now is what will determine what our children will be shackled with in their future. Multi-culturalism curtails much of the personal freedom that allows us to imagine the possibilities we see before us now.

NOTE: someone will inevitably refer to my comment that core values never change. Core values are those that underpin the fundamental structure of the society, not those that are superfluous to it. For example, it is a core value in America that all men are created equal. Such a value precludes s***ery. Just because something is old doesn't make it a core value.

federally indicted mattoid

JW says "Multi-culturalism curtails much of the personal freedom that allows us to imagine the possibilities we see before us now."

Please explain.