Rose42

You are addressing one of the monkey fighters.

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

We’ve had a China town in many cities for a very long time. Same story with the Amish, they speak German among themselves. Hasidic Jews frequently don’t speak English at all. Do they threaten the culture?

Laws can’t force acceptance. That’s a matter of choice.

American culture is not monolithic. We have city folk vs country folks. (Very often at odds.) Evangelicals and atheists. (The arguments echo everywhere.) Educated (not necessarily wise) people and uneducated people who sometimes know more (and sometimes don’t), often at loggerheads.

None of these opposing cultures have resulted in the destruction of America.

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

Exactly.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

A good response. I agree with most of what you say. You left out the Declaration of Independence, the first cause and reason for our country. Besides ethnicity, religion is a huge cultural factor. America IS a Christian nation despite what Obama said. People try to call the founders deists but the principles upon which we were founded are deeply Judeo-Christian. If we discard this we will cease to be a nation.

When did an influx of immigrants become oppressive? I think the influx of i*****l i*******ts may be what is oppressive. Ever since the passage of the immigration bill of 1965, it seems we have tried to go down a road of forcing m**************m into every aspect of our daily lives. When the Soviet Union broke apart one reason was, as you say, cultural oppression.

American Vet

"People try to call the founders deists". If one studies history carefully, you find that a couple were indeed deists. However, the remainder were deeply religious Christian men.

federally indicted mattoid

Sean Hannity is one "instance."

Has he ever corrected himself for the false info he's broadcast? Issued a retraction?

JW

No, see, Sean Hannity may be a propagandist but he is not an instance of propaganda. Provide an example of the propaganda that he pushes. Provide an example of his false information.

JW

Immigrants become oppressive when there is a huge influx of unassimilated folk. The Irish were h**ed until they assimilated. Once Americanized, they were no longer seen to be a threat to the overarching society and became just like all the other mainstream Americans. Following that, the mainstream adopted many of their aspects; the melting pot did its thing.

The same can be said about the Scandinavians in the Midwest and the Jews and Italians in the East. It no longer stands out when someone conveys a Happy Hanukkah well wish or we see a sign that says Dulces in an Italian restaurant.

Multi-culturalism is an i***t's dream. In every instance of mass immigration in the USA, EVERY instance, the immigrants assimilated the American culture when dealing with society at large. What is being attempted now, and history makes clear that it does not work, is forcing the overarching society to accommodate the newcomers. The result is that ghettos are springing up all over the country. We are creating artifices to keep us separate and to ourselves. Detroit has become Muslim and Las Angeles has become Latin. There are many more such examples.

JW

You are missing the point. We have Indian Reservations as well but when any of those separate cultures interact with the overarching culture, they adapt to it, not it to them. Doing it as we are now attempting separates us into ethnic ghettos and closed groups.

China towns, Amish, Hasidic Jews, Muslims, Italians, homosexuals and any number of other groups within the nation are essentially closed to outsiders but until recently they adapted to the greater society. Now, the greater society is being forced to adapt to them. It has never worked. It will never work and it is destructive to us as a nation.

Surely there are sufficient examples to grasp the trajectory of such a foolish proposition; Rwanda, Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union, and the historical animus between w****s and b****s in this country. The last example may be the best example. No one objects to b****s or anyone else, who conforms to the greater society but as long as society forces them into separate cultural enclaves, there is open hatred between the groups.

No one is saying that these disparate peoples can't maintain their home cultures at home, family traditions are important, but when we meet in the public square, we either share the overarching culture or we fight to separate from one another, if not openly then through prejudice and discrimination.

The reason the instances you point out have not destroyed America is because Americans of all stripes meet in public as Americans. The destruction follows the segmenting of society that results from cultural divisions.

Abel

That is a fairly true statement, Archie. However, in general, most people are "born equal" but excluding the exceptions that are born defective, most people are a product of "what they were when." That means it is their environment and parenting that are responsible for how they turn out toward normal society. We have some damned poor parenting practices and they don't all reside with the wealthy or middle class or poor, there is enough blame to go around. Another problem we could get rid of if it weren't so profitable for the wealthy industrialists, and that is drugs, legal and illegal. Big Pharma, Big Medicine, and Big Insurance all need to be revised and controlled.

With that in mind, diversity can go either way, good or bad.

This country, the United States OF America, there are 34 Americas and the USA is just one of them, has a very beneficial, although seriously corrupt, culture that works very well when the Democrat/Progressive/Socialists get out of the way leave it alone. Any time these Socialists/G*******ts get involved in a society, anywhere in the world, the culture there begins to turn to s**t, because greedy Socialism doesn't work after it runs out of other peoples money. It just bankrupts the country and moves to the next group of suckers.

Our immigration program is, or used to be, geared to have the people who want to come here and be citizens of the USA be willing to work honestly, learn about our laws and culture, and learn English. Nowadays, they come here running away from some Socialist controlled s**thole to the USA to get away from wh**ever and whoever is bothering them, looking for a fantasy called "the American Dream." This "dream" is not free, it requires real honest teamwork, not just "v****g for a living!" An awful lot of people live here but don't really love or respect the country, just the benefits they get from rather complacent, in some ways stupid, taxpayers like me and maybe even you.

A BIG problem is that they can't seem to shake their old ways of life and ASSIMILATE into OUR culture. In other words, they d**g along their dirty laundry and then try to change our culture to suit their dirty clothes. In this case, diversity and political correctness sucks! What is it they used to say? "There goes the neighborhood!" and this, if not curtailed, spreads to entire subdivisions to form urban areas within cities, then to entire cities like Los Angeles, New York City, San Francisco, and others, where they begin to harbor the homeless that s**t in the street, rape and rob people, violate our laws, badmouth our people, disrespect OUR f**g, take drugs and form gangs, cause a lot of h**e and discontent, and then begin to ignore our Constitution and Federal laws, as in California and parts of Minnesota, among others. This C*******t style of living, or just existing, spreads like a cancer, and if allowed to continue, the cancer will eventually die because the host that harbors it dies. This sucks! M**************m is pretty much tolerable when they keep it under control and within their own house, if they have one; unfortunately "tolerance" appears to be a lost art in the world of today. Good border control would take care of the homeless problem in the USA, and if Pelosi thinks walls are so immoral, why does she have one around her property; does she love her property more than she loves her country?? I kinda hope Mother Inferior Pelosi, Chucky Cheese Schumer, and DipSchiff, slips on a turd one of these days; they sure seem to h**e the USA and President Trump!

Multilingualism creates other problems along the way, such as not being able to communicate well with other people. Misunderstandings tend to cause problems up to and including gang wars, civil wars and sometimes world wars. This also sucks! Our immigration system as well as the government in general encourages this because they don't enforce learning our language and instead try to make English a second language. Then the government prints laws, warnings, labels, v****g b****ts, story books, rule books and everything else in multiple languages, which not only costs taxpayers one hell of a lot more unnecessary taxes for printing costs, but it also provides no incentives for immigrants to actually learn to speak, read, and write our English language or assimilate into our culture! What the hell are these damned democrats thinking of other than themselves? Do they have no brains? They certainly don't know much about finance, other than spend taxpayers money, and we don't even teach our own children finance in school let alone foreign immigrants; and to make it worse we pay taxes for a public education system to mis-educate migrants, immigrants, and even our own children, and give migrants attractive benefits our own poor folks can't even get! This is bulls**t! Don't they realize that the government cannot give anyone anything that it doesn't first take, or steal, from the taxpayers? Isn't it sad that we even pay outrageously high salaries and benefits for these country hating objectionists who think they are some kind of gods, and even for their parties and booze! For no more work they've been getting done on what they were elected for, maybe we should ask for our money back! Benefits are NOT free, someone pays!

I hope this helps explain your blanket statement of "people are people." They ain't all the same, and one rubber stamp can't cover them all. But we can stop this bulls**t if we put our minds to it, and President Trump is on the right track. The Democrats need to stop obstructing his every move and help the country survive and thrive rather than dumping the USA down the Socialist sewer. One doesn't have to love a President to support one that is trying to help the country you should love if you live in it. H**e, h**e, h**e, is all I hear from Dems anymore! Dems, get over yourselves!

Have a great day in a great country that must to be doing something right, or all these migrants wouldn't be trying to get in! I don't see many "h**ers" trying to get out! We just need to control the rate of entry, and their breeding rate so we don't get screwed out of a place to live, with no money left to buy so-called foreign "friends" to get them to accept us as immigrants. Now, that's not a pleasant thought!

May God bless the USA and all those of us who love her warts and all!

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

I will ask kevyn and get back to ya

C'mon....that was kinda funny bro.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

That sums it up nicely there, Abel.

Just to simplify part of what you said:

You can't bring 'there' to 'here' without 'here' becoming 'there'.

Abel

good point.

federally indicted mattoid

Hillary Clinton had Seth Rich murdered. He pushed that BS and never retracted.

Satisfied?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

No... It was a theory that he had and was investigating... He never stated that it was fact... Only a theory...