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Dec 18, 2019 09:15:17   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
jimpack123 wrote:
I just gave a opinion you don't need to be so rude about it.


Sorry, crawl back out from under the bed, turn the safety flashlight off, and I'll try to handle your absurdity with kid gloves.

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Dec 18, 2019 09:47:04   #
Lonewolf
 
ACP45 wrote:
It appears from what I am reading, that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) will move to dismiss the articles immediately following opening arguments.

"...Article I, Section 3 actually states, “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.”

“We don’t create impeachments over here … we judge them,” he declared.

It was the House’s role to investigate, and to build a case. “If they fail, they fail! It’s not the Senate’s job to leap into the breach to search desperately for ways to get to guilty. That would hardly be impartial justice.”

The Senate would not, he said, participate in “new fact-finding” that House Democrats were “too impatient” to pursue."

I suspect that is how this whole unfortunate process is going to end. Agree or Disagree?
It appears from what I am reading, that Senate Maj... (show quote)


I sure hope they do

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Dec 18, 2019 09:48:38   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
byronglimish wrote:
Sorry, crawl back out from under the bed, turn the safety flashlight off, and I'll try to handle your absurdity with kid gloves.


you are a ASS so keep on trying to be like Trump lol

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Dec 18, 2019 09:55:14   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
jimpack123 wrote:
you are a ASS so keep on trying to be like Trump lol


Thank you, I appreciate your encouragement.

Would I rather be a feckless and dishonest progressive?...NO!

Insults and slights toward me, are welcomed though.

I used to hang out with some b****s who would "cap" on each other before capping required a firearm.

I thoroughly enjoyed our sessions.

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Dec 18, 2019 10:09:35   #
bestpal38 Loc: Cedar City, Utah
 
Louis wrote:
I wish that were to be the case but I doubt it, however I believe it will be over in very short order unless Mitt Romney raises a fuss and sides with the democrats and convinces a couple more rino’s to go with him..


Of course Mitt will. He still thinks he has a shot at becoming president. This is not rocket science folks. The Democratic field for 2020 is beyond weak, being led by a 77 year old, very creepy white male (which is so weird being democrats h**e white males).

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Dec 18, 2019 10:16:28   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
byronglimish wrote:
Thank you, I appreciate your encouragement.

Would I rather be a feckless and dishonest progressive?...NO!

Insults and slights toward me, are welcomed though.

I used to hang out with some b****s who would "cap" on each other before capping required a firearm.

I thoroughly enjoyed our sessions.


My self I am a independent v**er. But I fear that the radically right dingdongs like you will push independent v**ers away from Trump. as the loyal Democrats and the loyal GOP will v**e for there party but the Independent v**ers have not made up there minds but ones like you will help sway them towards the left so keep on doing what you are doing ok and have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year

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Dec 18, 2019 11:06:17   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
jimpack123 wrote:
My self I am a independent v**er. But I fear that the radically right dingdongs like you will push independent v**ers away from Trump. as the loyal Democrats and the loyal GOP will v**e for there party but the Independent v**ers have not made up there minds but ones like you will help sway them towards the left so keep on doing what you are doing ok and have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year



If you think all of the sudden, that anyone believes "you fear v**es being pushed away from the President"...?

Anyone who would buy into that, hasn't read your incessant comments to the stark contrary.

Have you noticed little ol me, well, I'm just like Trump, upfront about what I believe.

And sporting a full sack as a right to be a white masculine man.

When people, foreign or domestic, start making me concerned for the future of this nation.

I get excited and verbally bouncy.

In all sincerity, good wishes to you too Jim.

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Dec 18, 2019 11:10:22   #
waltmoreno
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
If they call witnesses they are falling into the Democrats' plan of d**gging it out and allowing them their further fishing expedition. No Matter which way they go the Democrats and MSM will spin it their way. The American people are tired of this and want it over.


I'm with you. If the House hasn't made their case, it's not the Senate's job to help them out. I'm already fatigued with this tempest-in-a-teapot impeachment nonsense. The degree of hypocrisy of the democratic house members getting on tv and solemnly saying it's their duty to the constitution to v**e to impeach is laughable.

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Dec 18, 2019 11:14:46   #
CarryOn
 
ACP45 wrote:
It appears from what I am reading, that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) will move to dismiss the articles immediately following opening arguments.

"...Article I, Section 3 actually states, “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.”

“We don’t create impeachments over here … we judge them,” he declared.

It was the House’s role to investigate, and to build a case. “If they fail, they fail! It’s not the Senate’s job to leap into the breach to search desperately for ways to get to guilty. That would hardly be impartial justice.”

The Senate would not, he said, participate in “new fact-finding” that House Democrats were “too impatient” to pursue."

I suspect that is how this whole unfortunate process is going to end. Agree or Disagree?
It appears from what I am reading, that Senate Maj... (show quote)


Agree. I have mixed feelings about it, though. On the one hand, I would love to see Trump totally vindicated and the House leaders put to shame, exposed for their hatred and deception, and held accountable. On the other hand, the country has been through enough and Trump has more to accomplish, and this complete and utter dismissal of the dems' partisan nothingburger of a case will make them look like bratty children that are justifiably scolded by the adults in the room. That might be fun to watch.

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Dec 18, 2019 11:18:25   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
CarryOn wrote:
Agree. I have mixed feelings about it, though. On the one hand, I would love to see Trump totally vindicated and the House leaders put to shame, exposed for their hatred and deception, and held accountable. On the other hand, the country has been through enough and Trump has more to accomplish, and this complete and utter dismissal of the dems' partisan nothingburger of a case will make them look like bratty children that are justifiably scolded by the adults in the room. That might be fun to watch.
Agree. I have mixed feelings about it, though. O... (show quote)



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Dec 18, 2019 11:26:58   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
CarryOn wrote:
Agree. I have mixed feelings about it, though. On the one hand, I would love to see Trump totally vindicated and the House leaders put to shame, exposed for their hatred and deception, and held accountable. On the other hand, the country has been through enough and Trump has more to ccomplish, and this complete and utter dismissal of the dems' partisan nothingburger of a case will make them look like bratty children that are justifiably scolded by the adults in the room. That might be fun to watch.
Agree. I have mixed feelings about it, though. O... (show quote)


were any of you alive when Nixon resigned from office. I was and I see a lot similar things from when that happened and I also similar things from when Clinton was Impeached I believe the same results of the Clinton Impeachment but very possible different results in the upcoming e******n. The young v**ers will make a difference as there are more young v**ers than the oldtimers like myself it will be a interesting 2020 and I hope that everyone goes and v**es in Nov. of 2020 because if you don't v**e then you have no right to complain about the outcome

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Dec 18, 2019 11:32:22   #
Radiance3
 
ACP45 wrote:
It appears from what I am reading, that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) will move to dismiss the articles immediately following opening arguments.

"...Article I, Section 3 actually states, “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.”

“We don’t create impeachments over here … we judge them,” he declared.

It was the House’s role to investigate, and to build a case. “If they fail, they fail! It’s not the Senate’s job to leap into the breach to search desperately for ways to get to guilty. That would hardly be impartial justice.”

The Senate would not, he said, participate in “new fact-finding” that House Democrats were “too impatient” to pursue."

I suspect that is how this whole unfortunate process is going to end. Agree or Disagree?
It appears from what I am reading, that Senate Maj... (show quote)

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The Senate must dismiss the impeachment upon presentation. Return to Adam Schiff and Pelosi.

1. The Abuse of Power does not exist. The abuse of power was his rights and obligations to carry on his duty as the Chief Executive, the essential protocols of engagement with any country particularly when it involves material considerations, and diplomatic considerations invested by the citizens of the US. The investigations and questions must be done, a policy to be conducted before any t***saction is committed for Ukraine, or any country.

Those undertaken by the president are all essential steps to protecting the interests of both countries like US and Ukraine. The president must be commended for that instead of being impeached. Failure to doing that is a dereliction of duty.

2. The second one is obstruction of justice? What did the president obstruct? It is the right of the president within his power as Chief Executive not to comply the demands of Congress concerning his appearance to testify with the Congressional hearing. The president has nothing to testify for there was no fault committed. The president has the right to deny demands of Adam Schiff. Unless a Court order was made. None of that happened and therefore the president has all his constitutional rights, and not obligated to appear at the Congressional hearing testimony. He must be exonerated for all the actions done.

This impeachment is wasting the time of everybody who are supposed to serve the people and the country. This impeachment had spent hundreds of millions of dollars, money of the people. America, are you happy about that?

I am glad the president wrote a letter to Nancy Pelosi. It was powerfully written and I agree with all statements of the letter.

Senate must dismiss the case!

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Dec 18, 2019 11:35:21   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The Senate must dismiss the impeachment upon presentation. Return to Adam Schiff and Pelosi.

1. The Abuse of Power does not exist. The abuse of power was his rights and obligations to carry on his duty as the Chief Executive, the essential protocols of engagement with any country particularly when it involves material considerations, and diplomatic considerations invested by the citizens of the US. The investigations and questions must be done, a policy to be conducted before any t***saction is committed for Ukraine, or any country.

Those undertaken by the president are all essential steps to protecting the interests of both countries like US and Ukraine. The president must be commended for that instead of being impeached. Failure to doing that is a dereliction of duty.

2. The second one is obstruction of justice? What did the president obstruct? It is the right of the president within his power as Chief Executive not to comply the demands of Congress concerning his appearance to testify with the Congressional hearing. The president has nothing to testify for there was no fault committed. The president has the right to deny demands of Adam Schiff. Unless a Court order was made. None of that happened and therefore the president has all his constitutional rights, and not obligated to appear at the Congressional hearing testimony. He must be exonerated for all the actions done.

This impeachment is wasting the time of everybody who are supposed to serve the people and the country. This impeachment had spent hundreds of millions of dollars, money of the people. America, are you happy about that?

I am glad the president wrote a letter to Nancy Pelosi. It was powerfully written and I agree with all statements of the letter.

Senate must dismiss the case!
============= br The Senate must dismiss the impea... (show quote)

yawn

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Dec 18, 2019 11:53:15   #
CarryOn
 
jimpack123 wrote:
were any of you alive when Nixon resigned from office. I was and I see a lot similar things from when that happened and I also similar things from when Clinton was Impeached I believe the same results of the Clinton Impeachment but very possible different results in the upcoming e******n. The young v**ers will make a difference as there are more young v**ers than the oldtimers like myself it will be a interesting 2020 and I hope that everyone goes and v**es in Nov. of 2020 because if you don't v**e then you have no right to complain about the outcome
were any of you alive when Nixon resigned from off... (show quote)


I was alive for both, but must admit to being young and interested in other things during the Nixon impeachment. The only similarity I see between the Clinton impeachment and this one is the extreme animosity between the parties.

The differences between these two, however, are much more glaring ...

NO proof of any crime committed by Trump, while there was definitive proof of perjury by Clinton.

NO due process for Trump, or even a fair process ..

NO secret hearings controlled solely by the opposing party for Clinton .. .

NO bipartisan support for the Trump impeachment ... one of the major requirements listed by the democrat leaders themselves just a few short weeks ago ...


The dems began, and even announced, that they were going to impeach Trump right after he was elected and even after all this time they have come up with no proof of any impeachable offense. I do not recall anywhere near that much animosity and eagerness to impeach Clinton from the day he was elected.

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Dec 18, 2019 11:59:19   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
CarryOn wrote:
I was alive for both, but must admit to being young and interested in other things during the Nixon impeachment. The only similarity I see between the Clinton impeachment and this one is the extreme animosity between the parties.

The differences between these two, however, are much more glaring ...

NO proof of any crime committed by Trump, while there was definitive proof of perjury by Clinton.

NO due process for Trump, or even a fair process ..

NO secret hearings controlled solely by the opposing party for Clinton .. .

NO bipartisan support for the Trump impeachment ... one of the major requirements listed by the democrat leaders themselves just a few short weeks ago ...


The dems began, and even announced, that they were going to impeach Trump right after he was elected and even after all this time they have come up with no proof of any impeachable offense. I do not recall anywhere near that much animosity and eagerness to impeach Clinton from the day he was elected.
I was alive for both, but must admit to being youn... (show quote)

I disagree the GOP was after him from day one with Obama they didn't need as they had control of congress and did nothing for six years in a row

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