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Nov 22, 2019 22:32:17   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JediKnight wrote:
No, actually Trump does not have the right to do wh**ever he wishes - hence all of the investigations. The concern over what Joe was paid is totally irrelevant - he's not the f**e president -Trump is. And that's why Trump is being investigated and impeached.....not so much with Biden right?


Foreign policy is the purview of the President. Period. Quid or no pro. Deal or no deal. Low level Obama holdovers don't set foreign policy.

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Nov 23, 2019 12:02:44   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Foreign policy is the purview of the President. Period. Quid or no pro. Deal or no deal. Low level Obama holdovers don't set foreign policy.


Ahhh...apparently Congress does not agree with you Mikey!

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Nov 23, 2019 12:52:45   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
JediKnight wrote:
You already know what Trump did wrong - he sought to create a phony investigation into Biden to help his chances of being re-elected. By asking a foreign government to do a phony investigation, Trump violated our laws against asking/receiving foreign aide in our e******n process. It is not Trump's job to investigate corruption -that's why we have the (f**e) Attorney General, intelligence agencies, etc. Besides, Trump has enough of his own corruption that needs to be investigated.

If Trump had any sense, he could have simply asked our intelligence agencies to investigate the corruption in Ukraine. By tying the 'Biden investigation' to the military aide which was already approved by Congress and a WH visit- which of course made it illegal. The Ukrainians had already investigated the ruse that the Russian interference in 2016 actually came from Ukraine -and proved it false.

I notice you didn't respond to my question: WHY would Trump even have to tell Sondland "no quid-pro-quo unless the subject had already been discussed? As an American Ambassador, wouldn't Sondland already know that quid is against our laws? Surely he did, which is why the call recording was hidden on that super top-secret server that we store our covert op missions on. The water is swirling around the drain and Trump is going down.

Trump is unqualified, seriously flawed, and simply unfit to lead. period. The sooner you accept the t***h, the better off you will be. simple.
You already know what Trump did wrong - he sought ... (show quote)


Your first paragraph is so wrong I don't know where to start. but lets start with "phony investigation" Trump, by law, has the constitutional duty to seek out corruption where ever it may be. His lawyer has the right to investigate what was behind the illegal investigation into his campaign and who was behind it. Next, you say, why didn't Trump have the intelligence agencies? I believe he didn't think the intelligence agencies would root out the t***h since they were part of the reason he has been investigated.
As to your next question about the statement where Trump told Sondland there was no "quid pro quo". I don't remember when that conversation took place. Who has said that recording was hid in the secret server? I haven't heard that before. I guess that was on CNN, which I never watch. Your last sentence is so much pushed by the MSM it deserves no response. I haven't accepted anything for sure at this point but Schiff and his merry party haven't produced any proof so far with only the witness's they wanted interviewed. I have seen where no witness's have been able to appear that were wanted by the Republicans, to be interviewed. That doesn't seem very democratic and lawful to me. Then all of the witness's have reported isn't first hand information and some of it is most likely fourth and fifth hand information. None of them had first had information. As for hearsay, I don't believe that has ever been introduced as evidence in any court of law. Your last sentence is so far off the wall it requires no rebuttal.

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Nov 23, 2019 18:30:38   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JediKnight wrote:
Ahhh...apparently Congress does not agree with you Mikey!


You mean the kommiecrats in the House of Representatives.

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Nov 25, 2019 10:31:14   #
JediKnight
 
Louie27 wrote:
Your first paragraph is so wrong I don't know where to start. but lets start with "phony investigation" Trump, by law, has the constitutional duty to seek out corruption where ever it may be. His lawyer has the right to investigate what was behind the illegal investigation into his campaign and who was behind it. Next, you say, why didn't Trump have the intelligence agencies? I believe he didn't think the intelligence agencies would root out the t***h since they were part of the reason he has been investigated.
As to your next question about the statement where Trump told Sondland there was no "quid pro quo". I don't remember when that conversation took place. Who has said that recording was hid in the secret server? I haven't heard that before. I guess that was on CNN, which I never watch. Your last sentence is so much pushed by the MSM it deserves no response. I haven't accepted anything for sure at this point but Schiff and his merry party haven't produced any proof so far with only the witness's they wanted interviewed. I have seen where no witness's have been able to appear that were wanted by the Republicans, to be interviewed. That doesn't seem very democratic and lawful to me. Then all of the witness's have reported isn't first hand information and some of it is most likely fourth and fifth hand information. None of them had first had information. As for hearsay, I don't believe that has ever been introduced as evidence in any court of law. Your last sentence is so far off the wall it requires no rebuttal.
Your first paragraph is so wrong I don't know wher... (show quote)


Louie: you are so delusional it is difficult even reading your posts! I have decided that perhaps it is best to just leave you in your denial, because you make it plain that you have no intention of even considering that your guy is flawed, corrupt, and a criminal. I will let time and circumstance show to you what I obviously cannot. I am curious as to what reference, thought, or resource has convinced you that it "is the president's job to seek out foreign corruption, and to employ his personal attorney - a private citizen - to start investigations of our own citizens in a foreign country." Apparently, you have no idea just how i***tic that sounds.
Good day to you, and may you live long and prosper.

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Nov 25, 2019 14:37:02   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JediKnight wrote:
Louie: you are so delusional it is difficult even reading your posts! I have decided that perhaps it is best to just leave you in your denial, because you make it plain that you have no intention of even considering that your guy is flawed, corrupt, and a criminal. I will let time and circumstance show to you what I obviously cannot. I am curious as to what reference, thought, or resource has convinced you that it "is the president's job to seek out foreign corruption, and to employ his personal attorney - a private citizen - to start investigations of our own citizens in a foreign country." Apparently, you have no idea just how i***tic that sounds.
Good day to you, and may you live long and prosper.
Louie: you are so delusional it is difficult even ... (show quote)


Under Trump, we are prospering.

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Nov 25, 2019 14:41:57   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Under Trump, we are prospering.


Yes, a whole 1% of the most wealthy elite is indeed prospering.....everyone else....not so much.

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Nov 25, 2019 14:50:09   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JediKnight wrote:
Yes, a whole 1% of the most wealthy elite is indeed prospering.....everyone else....not so much.


You must be one of the few losers left in America.
Everyone is prospering. Read the financial papers, you are really misinformed.

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Nov 25, 2019 15:14:32   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
You must be one of the few losers left in America.
Everyone is prospering. Read the financial papers, you are really misinformed.


Calling me juvenile names will not change the facts. No, everyone is not prospering and you know that. But, keep playing your selfish, insensitive games while you can -although Trump's days are numbered.

But know that one day, you will have to stand before Christ and answer about each wrong thought, action, and deed you've ever done.

I'll make it a point not to stand anywhere close to you on that day lil' buddy!

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Nov 25, 2019 16:30:01   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JediKnight wrote:
Calling me juvenile names will not change the facts. No, everyone is not prospering and you know that. But, keep playing your selfish, insensitive games while you can -although Trump's days are numbered.

But know that one day, you will have to stand before Christ and answer about each wrong thought, action, and deed you've ever done.

I'll make it a point not to stand anywhere close to you on that day lil' buddy!
Calling me juvenile names will not change the fact... (show quote)


You gonna be in hell already?

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Nov 25, 2019 16:53:58   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
You gonna be in hell already?


Mikey: the Final Judgment actually occurs before you get your ticket to hell.....I will not stand next to you!

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Nov 25, 2019 16:55:51   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
You mean the kommiecrats in the House of Representatives.


So, then, are you now saying that all those republicans who have come forward to testify about Trump's attempted extortion of Ukraine are kommiecrats too?

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Nov 25, 2019 18:29:20   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JediKnight wrote:
Mikey: the Final Judgment actually occurs before you get your ticket to hell.....I will not stand next to you!


Can you help me get a cooler spot in hell? Like near Satan's office where it's air conditioned?

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Nov 25, 2019 18:50:11   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
JediKnight wrote:
Louie: you are so delusional it is difficult even reading your posts! I have decided that perhaps it is best to just leave you in your denial, because you make it plain that you have no intention of even considering that your guy is flawed, corrupt, and a criminal. I will let time and circumstance show to you what I obviously cannot. I am curious as to what reference, thought, or resource has convinced you that it "is the president's job to seek out foreign corruption, and to employ his personal attorney - a private citizen - to start investigations of our own citizens in a foreign country." Apparently, you have no idea just how i***tic that sounds.
Good day to you, and may you live long and prosper.
Louie: you are so delusional it is difficult even ... (show quote)


I realize it may be difficult for you to read my posts, simply because you have no comprehension of logical thinking. I realize Trump is flawed just like myself and many others in this country and world. I also realize many are so mad that Trump beat Hillary they can't think straight. As for Rudy, he is the Presidents attorney is he was seeking out iif anyone in the Ukraine had anything to do with helping Hillary try to get elected. That isn't a crime for an attorney to find the t***h about who had caused the Ukraine to work with the Dems in applying pressure for the Ukrainian government to interfere with the P**********l e******n in favor of Hillary. Any President has the right to make sure the countries that are receiving aid for the U. S. is no longer corrupt, before releasing any federal funds to any country that is corrupt. I guess you never heard that the State Dept. was also involved. There is no law to keep any President from enlisting aid to find the t***h. Good day to you and I seem to have already passed the expiration date for American males and will hopefully have many more years to see the fallacy of c*****e c****e by humans causing the world to be long gone in the next nine years.

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Nov 25, 2019 18:59:12   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Louie27 wrote:
I realize it may be difficult for you to read my posts, simply because you have no comprehension of logical thinking. I realize Trump is flawed just like myself and many others in this country and world. I also realize many are so mad that Trump beat Hillary they can't think straight. As for Rudy, he is the Presidents attorney is he was seeking out iif anyone in the Ukraine had anything to do with helping Hillary try to get elected. That isn't a crime for an attorney to find the t***h about who had caused the Ukraine to work with the Dems in applying pressure for the Ukrainian government to interfere with the P**********l e******n in favor of Hillary. Any President has the right to make sure the countries that are receiving aid for the U. S. is no longer corrupt, before releasing any federal funds to any country that is corrupt. I guess you never heard that the State Dept. was also involved. There is no law to keep any President from enlisting aid to find the t***h. Good day to you and I seem to have already passed the expiration date for American males and will hopefully have many more years to see the fallacy of c*****e c****e by humans causing the world to be long gone in the next nine years.
I realize it may be difficult for you to read my p... (show quote)


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