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Jordan Says Trump Told Sondland No Quid Pro Quo...Case Over
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Nov 21, 2019 10:15:57   #
vernon
 
woodguru wrote:
The text sequence between Sondland and Taylor says it all as pertains to when Trump said his meaningless no quid pro quo statement. It was after Taylor hammered Sondland, he talked to Trump and trump told him to tell Taylor there was no quid pro quo.

well that changes things... someone who is as honest as trump wouldn't say that if it wasn't so.

This is a moronic defense and does not hold up to a sequenced set of text communications that put it in context. People aren't stupid enough to buy this ....are they?
The text sequence between Sondland and Taylor says... (show quote)


The moronic part is these DemoRATS setting up a literal kangaroo court with the defense not even allowed
to question witnesses or to present a defense.

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Nov 21, 2019 12:27:41   #
JediKnight
 
woodguru wrote:
The text sequence between Sondland and Taylor says it all as pertains to when Trump said his meaningless no quid pro quo statement. It was after Taylor hammered Sondland, he talked to Trump and trump told him to tell Taylor there was no quid pro quo.

well that changes things... someone who is as honest as trump wouldn't say that if it wasn't so.

This is a moronic defense and does not hold up to a sequenced set of text communications that put it in context. People aren't stupid enough to buy this ....are they?
The text sequence between Sondland and Taylor says... (show quote)


Wood: I agree with your post. My first thought was: "who in the world actually uses phrases like "quid-pro-quo" in everyday conversation? Not even most lawyers do that. Trump screaming "I said no quid-pro-quo" is a dead give away that he in fact ordered that very thing. If there was no discussion or thought of extorting Ukraine, then why was that phrase even mentioned?
You don't tell your family and friends: "look, don't drive down the block at 100 mph snorting cocaine because that's illegal!"
Fact is, Trump ordered the extortion, tried to cover it up by placing the call recording on the secret server that we store our covert op missions on, and continues to lie about it. These republicans are the worst, most complicit bunch of crooks ever seen in my life time. I, for one, will be glad when this nightmare charade of Trump is just a bad memory.

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Nov 21, 2019 12:32:18   #
JediKnight
 
vernon wrote:
The moronic part is these DemoRATS setting up a literal kangaroo court with the defense not even allowed
to question witnesses or to present a defense.


You might want to try Google....the rules the democrats are following were created by REPUBLICANS back in 2015! If you have watched any of the hearings, then you know that republicans are asking questions of the witnesses.
BTW -the current hearings are NOT a trial -but fact finding hearings. Once they are complete, a formal impeachment hearing is next -where both sides can present evidence and ask questions. THEN, if Articles of Impeachment are drawn up by the House, they are sent to the Senate for the actual trial. However, Moscow Mitch has already vowed that the Senate will not convict Trump no matter what the evidence says -which basically is like saying "to hell with the laws of the Constitution."

This is what happens when a f**e, corrupt, and crooked person is put into the White House. sad.

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Nov 21, 2019 13:07:33   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
woodguru wrote:
The text sequence between Sondland and Taylor says it all as pertains to when Trump said his meaningless no quid pro quo statement. It was after Taylor hammered Sondland, he talked to Trump and trump told him to tell Taylor there was no quid pro quo.

well that changes things... someone who is as honest as trump wouldn't say that if it wasn't so.

This is a moronic defense and does not hold up to a sequenced set of text communications that put it in context. People aren't stupid enough to buy this ....are they?
The text sequence between Sondland and Taylor says... (show quote)


There you go once again. Trump never said to tell Taylor there was no quid pro quo. The President told Sondland there was no quid pro quo. Sondland never said that Trump had told him to tell anyone else. Just like I have said many times before, you progressives hear things that were never said because it doesn't suit your appraisal of the situation. Taylor asked Sondland it there was a quid pro quo and Sondland stated there was no quid pro quo, time after time to Taylor, when asking that question. so once again you hear only what you want to hear not what was actually said. So sad to see many of the liberals that have gone to progressivism. By the way, how would Trump know Taylor was to ask Sondland that question?

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Nov 21, 2019 16:49:04   #
JediKnight
 
Louie27 wrote:
There you go once again. Trump never said to tell Taylor there was no quid pro quo. The President told Sondland there was no quid pro quo. Sondland never said that Trump had told him to tell anyone else. Just like I have said many times before, you progressives hear things that were never said because it doesn't suit your appraisal of the situation. Taylor asked Sondland it there was a quid pro quo and Sondland stated there was no quid pro quo, time after time to Taylor, when asking that question. so once again you hear only what you want to hear not what was actually said. So sad to see many of the liberals that have gone to progressivism. By the way, how would Trump know Taylor was to ask Sondland that question?
There you go once again. Trump never said to tell ... (show quote)


Louie: WHY would Trump have to tell Sondland there was no quid -unless it had already been discussed?

Do you tell your friends: you don't want to drive down the block at 100 mph snorting cocaine with an underaged girl because that's illegal? No -surely not, because we don't have to give such warnings about the obvious. Trump ordered the quid - plain and simple. Besides, who talks like that anyway? Most lawyers do not use Latin phrases like quid-pro-quo in normal conversation, and last time I checked, neither Trump nor Sondland are attorneys.
No amount of pontificating, deflecting, or projecting can change the facts. Refusing to accept that Trump is simply crooked will not make it go away.

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Nov 21, 2019 17:13:03   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
woodguru wrote:
The text sequence between Sondland and Taylor says it all as pertains to when Trump said his meaningless no quid pro quo statement. It was after Taylor hammered Sondland, he talked to Trump and trump told him to tell Taylor there was no quid pro quo.

well that changes things... someone who is as honest as trump wouldn't say that if it wasn't so.

This is a moronic defense and does not hold up to a sequenced set of text communications that put it in context. People aren't stupid enough to buy this ....are they?
The text sequence between Sondland and Taylor says... (show quote)


Some are smart enough not to watch this dog and pony show to begin with.

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Nov 21, 2019 17:14:20   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
vernon wrote:
If they are stupid enough to believe this crap going on now they will believe anything.


Yup!

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Nov 21, 2019 17:19:36   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
PeterS wrote:
Fox News is dedicated to giving news that conservatives want to hear. Mainstream news has a diverse listening audience so they can't present news dedicated to one ideology else they would have been out of business long ago. The exception, of course, is MSNBC and CNN which have to compete with Fox directly so present an opinion based news program the same as Fox News.


I guess you haven't watched Fox lately right or conservative is hardly what it does in most cases.

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Nov 21, 2019 17:31:17   #
JediKnight
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Some are smart enough not to watch this dog and pony show to begin with.


I bet you wouldn't be saying that if it was Obama or Hillary right?

You obviously have forgotten, or perhaps never knew: T***h always wins out in the end.

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Nov 21, 2019 18:53:11   #
Mikeyavelli
 
woodguru wrote:
The text sequence between Sondland and Taylor says it all as pertains to when Trump said his meaningless no quid pro quo statement. It was after Taylor hammered Sondland, he talked to Trump and trump told him to tell Taylor there was no quid pro quo.

well that changes things... someone who is as honest as trump wouldn't say that if it wasn't so.

This is a moronic defense and does not hold up to a sequenced set of text communications that put it in context. People aren't stupid enough to buy this ....are they?
The text sequence between Sondland and Taylor says... (show quote)

Trump has the right to conduct any foreign policy he wants, quid or no pro. The kommiecrats are feigning shock at perfectly legal policy.
And, we learned of an investigation in Ukraine, into Burisma, and 16 million dollars to H****r B***n, and also, that H****r "papa" Biden knocked some woman up and the kid is DNAd as his. Bad day for the Bidens. Last night too.

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Nov 21, 2019 19:01:27   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
JediKnight wrote:
Louie: WHY would Trump have to tell Sondland there was no quid -unless it had already been discussed?

Do you tell your friends: you don't want to drive down the block at 100 mph snorting cocaine with an underaged girl because that's illegal? No -surely not, because we don't have to give such warnings about the obvious. Trump ordered the quid - plain and simple. Besides, who talks like that anyway? Most lawyers do not use Latin phrases like quid-pro-quo in normal conversation, and last time I checked, neither Trump nor Sondland are attorneys.
No amount of pontificating, deflecting, or projecting can change the facts. Refusing to accept that Trump is simply crooked will not make it go away.
Louie: WHY would Trump have to tell Sondland there... (show quote)


Trump never said he wouldn't give the aid if the Ukrainian President wouldn't do his bidding. That would then ab a bribe or quid pro quo. Everything has to be plain and simple and then you seem to not understand the English language. Most of those on the left only believe what they want to see or hear. We will find out in the next e******n if the left is right or those people in middle America, not the States with the most people.

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Nov 22, 2019 12:23:17   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Trump has the right to conduct any foreign policy he wants, quid or no pro. The kommiecrats are feigning shock at perfectly legal policy.
And, we learned of an investigation in Ukraine, into Burisma, and 16 million dollars to H****r B***n, and also, that H****r "papa" Biden knocked some woman up and the kid is DNAd as his. Bad day for the Bidens. Last night too.


No, actually Trump does not have the right to do wh**ever he wishes - hence all of the investigations. The concern over what Joe was paid is totally irrelevant - he's not the f**e president -Trump is. And that's why Trump is being investigated and impeached.....not so much with Biden right?

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Nov 22, 2019 12:26:01   #
JediKnight
 
Louie27 wrote:
Trump never said he wouldn't give the aid if the Ukrainian President wouldn't do his bidding. That would then ab a bribe or quid pro quo. Everything has to be plain and simple and then you seem to not understand the English language. Most of those on the left only believe what they want to see or hear. We will find out in the next e******n if the left is right or those people in middle America, not the States with the most people.


Louie: he didn't have to actually say it - ACTIONS speak louder than words - he did it! Amusing how you guys will try to spin something because it didn't happen the way YOU think would make it wrong - despite what is clearly understood in our laws. sad. Trump is guilty and he knows it, I know it, and you do too.

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Nov 22, 2019 12:41:45   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
JediKnight wrote:
Louie: he didn't have to actually say it - ACTIONS speak louder than words - he did it! Amusing how you guys will try to spin something because it didn't happen the way YOU think would make it wrong - despite what is clearly understood in our laws. sad. Trump is guilty and he knows it, I know it, and you do too.


What were Trumps actions, that led you to believe there was a quid pro quo? I believe there is a treaty between the two countries to investigate corruption. That bill was signed by President Clinton. So, I guess you will have to believe in reality not supposition's put forth by the Dems and the MSM, who are the spokesmen for the far left. If I am incorrect about that, please show proof that I am wrong in my assumption.

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Nov 22, 2019 12:59:14   #
JediKnight
 
Louie27 wrote:
What were Trumps actions, that led you to believe there was a quid pro quo? I believe there is a treaty between the two countries to investigate corruption. That bill was signed by President Clinton. So, I guess you will have to believe in reality not supposition's put forth by the Dems and the MSM, who are the spokesmen for the far left. If I am incorrect about that, please show proof that I am wrong in my assumption.


You already know what Trump did wrong - he sought to create a phony investigation into Biden to help his chances of being re-elected. By asking a foreign government to do a phony investigation, Trump violated our laws against asking/receiving foreign aide in our e******n process. It is not Trump's job to investigate corruption -that's why we have the (f**e) Attorney General, intelligence agencies, etc. Besides, Trump has enough of his own corruption that needs to be investigated.

If Trump had any sense, he could have simply asked our intelligence agencies to investigate the corruption in Ukraine. By tying the 'Biden investigation' to the military aide which was already approved by Congress and a WH visit- which of course made it illegal. The Ukrainians had already investigated the ruse that the Russian interference in 2016 actually came from Ukraine -and proved it false.

I notice you didn't respond to my question: WHY would Trump even have to tell Sondland "no quid-pro-quo unless the subject had already been discussed? As an American Ambassador, wouldn't Sondland already know that quid is against our laws? Surely he did, which is why the call recording was hidden on that super top-secret server that we store our covert op missions on. The water is swirling around the drain and Trump is going down.

Trump is unqualified, seriously flawed, and simply unfit to lead. period. The sooner you accept the t***h, the better off you will be. simple.

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