No one treated Obama like this. No one manufactured evidence to remove him from office. We didn't try to frame him. I think you're still confused as to who we are.

Personally, even though I found him condescending and preachy, I never disrespected his name. I was and still am adamantly opposed to globalism. That's IT.

This "shtshow" was started by Bush 1 and carried on by every prez since...to save fiat currency and the petrodollar. Nothing else...we intend on stopping it and the unelected bureaucracy and incumbent, entrenched political class are freaking out.

They've thrown everything at Trump including the kitchen sink and now they're rethrowing it all 'cause it's all they got.

You're right about reaping...you're just 180 off on who did the planting and who's gonna reap.

This is a sting operation. You are witnessing the takedown of a criminal organization.

Trump was approached to do this...eyes open wide with an 8 year plan. I wouldn't underestimate any of this madness if I were you...this is NOT politics as usual.

Uncontested. Theater from top to bottom. When I said this is a movie trilogy I never meant to infer only the Dems were acting.

The admitting it part: We know Trump is acting. We know Giuliani is acting. Tom Fitton, Lindsey Graham, Jim Jordan...they're all acting. When Trump met their ridiculous BS with funnier, more biting and closer to the t***h BS I thought it was genius. I could see what he was doing...hitting them with the unexpected. Trump's demeanor since he announced has been satirical commentary on the last 30+ years of Washingtonspeak and the narrative.

I can't speak for the average Dem v**er but it looks to me as if they don't know everyone's full of it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/explainer-protesting-republicans-impeachment-probe-182131548.html

Explainer: Protesting Republicans say impeachment probe violates Trump's rights. Is that true?

By Jan Wolfe, Reuters•October 24, 2019

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican lawmakers on Wednesday stormed a hearing room at the U.S. House of Representatives where a Pentagon official was to testify in the impeachment probe of President Donald Trump, yelling that it was unfair and violated Trump's rights.

The lawmakers were echoing objections made by White House Counsel Pat Cipollone in an Oct. 8 letter to top House Democrats that said Trump's lawyers must be allowed to call and cross-examine witnesses, access evidence, and be afforded other "basic rights guaranteed to all Americans."

The following examines the procedures followed in past impeachment investigations and explains why, contrary to Republican claims, the current inquiry does not violate Trump's constitutional rights.

Members of three Democratic-led House committees have been interviewing government officials behind closed doors to try to build a case that Trump abused his power by pressuring Ukraine to investigate a rival - Democrat Joe Biden - for his personal political benefit.

While Democrats have led these interviews, Republicans who sit on the committees are also able to review documents and ask questions of the witnesses. Trump's lawyers have been excluded.

Democrats have said they will hold public hearings soon in order to make their case against Trump to v**ers. House leaders have likened their investigation to a grand jury proceeding, a preliminary stage of a criminal case conducted in secret.

Cipollone said the House has "not established any procedures affording the President even the most basic protections demanded by due process under the Constitution and by fundamental fairness" in violation of "every past precedent."

In addition to granting Trump the right to access evidence, examine witnesses, and have counsel present at hearings, the committees must also disclose evidence that is favorable to him, he wrote.

Cipollone argued that Republican lawmakers should be allowed to issue subpoenas, which would enable them to present their own evidence and try to undermine the Democrats' version of events.

The White House also said the investigation was not legitimate because the full House had not v**ed to authorize it.

In U.S. impeachment proceedings, the House investigates and v**es to impeach, and the Senate holds a trial to determine guilt or innocence and whether the president stays in office.

Some of the protections requested by the White House were given to Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon, the two presidents in modern history to face impeachment probes.

The House allowed Nixon's defense lawyers to respond to evidence and testimony during his impeachment inquiry. Nixon resigned from office in 1974 before being impeached, however.

Twenty-five years later, Clinton was afforded similar protections. Clinton was impeached by the House but not convicted by the Senate.

In both of those cases, the House also held a full v**e to authorize an impeachment inquiry.

Some scholars have said that Clinton's case was unique and cannot be likened to the current proceeding, however, because the Republicans who impeached Clinton relied on evidence laid out in a report by former independent counsel Kenneth Starr, who Democrats accused of political bias.

Is the Trump impeachment investigation unconstitutional? According to several experts, no.

Frank Bowman, a law professor at the University of Missouri, said the U.S. Constitution gives the House the freedom to set its own ground rules for the process.

No full v**e is needed to authorize an investigation and the House is not obligated to let Trump's lawyers participate, Bowman said.

"Trump has no standing whatsoever to insist that the House do impeachment the way he would like it done," Bowman said.

Bowman added that fairness to Trump is more of a concern if there is a trial in the Senate, which is currently controlled by Republicans. Like the House, the Senate has broad authority to set its own impeachment rules.

But some legal experts said giving Trump basic protections and allowing his lawyers to participate would make the impeachment investigation appear more fair.

That could be a wise political move for Democrats, said Ross Garber, who teaches impeachment law at Tulane Law School and has represented four governors in impeachment proceedings.

Bypassing due process safeguards that are standard in the U.S. legal system "may make the American people question the legitimacy of the impeachment process," Garber said.

The House impeachment process generally proceeds in three phases: (1) initiation of the impeachment process; (2) Judiciary Committee investigation (Inquiry), hearings, and markup of articles of impeachment; and (3) full House consideration of the articles of impeachment.

If the committee determines that impeachment is warranted, it will markup articles of impeachment using the same procedures followed for the markup of other legislation. If the Judiciary Committee reports a resolution impeaching a federal officer, that resolution qualifies for privileged consideration on the House floor.

If the House approves the impeachment resolution, it will appoint managers to present and argue its case in front of the Senate.

Schiff and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence is conducting itself outside the bounds of the constitution, the law, and the established procedures for the impeachment process. (The impeachment inquiry was never supposed to be held in secret.)

As long as Schiff continues with his Machiavellian political game and runs his inquiry in secret hearings and leaks selected, highly prejudicial information to the media, he is going to play hell bringing legitimate grounds for articles of impeachment to the full House floor. Wh**ever that sleazy SOB comes up with, he'd better have sufficient proof of impeachable offenses, or he's going to eat s**t when the full house goes for the v**e. Schiff's subterfuge will never make it to the senate.

All past impeachment proceedings were conducted in full view of the American people. Neither Johnson, Nixon or Clinton were prohibited from exercising their constitutional rights to actively and aggressively engage their defense with all the constitutional and legal means available to them.

The United States of America is OUR country, it does not belong to the House of Representatives, or to the government in general, and it certainly is not the property of an insane pencil neck from California.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-napolitano-frustrating-schiff-following-110500146.html

Opening excerpt: "[The] Democrats' initial level of impeachment inquiry can be done in secret thanks to House rules passed by a Republican majority in 2015, Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano explains."

And again, this thread's initial post, since you apparently didn't read it or the one just above:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/explainer-protesting-republicans-impeachment-probe-182131548.html