JoyV

Rudy Giuliani was once a very capable guy. But ever since Trump was elected, he has made statements of what Trump really means often opposite of Trump's own words. He has undermined Trump on numerous occasions whether intentionally or not.

JoyV

Trump specifically referred to the Ukrainian corruption investigation in the phone call, which you conveniently left out of your quote. This investigation was not specifically about H****r. It was a corruption investigation involving many Ukrainian companies including the one H****r was on the board of.

Secondly, Rudy was investigating Biden's involvement relating to his public brag about threatening a foreign government BEFORE Biden entered the p**********l race. The investigation was not instituted to bring down a campaign rival as Biden was not yet running.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Because it's an inquiry, not an investigation. They can issue strongly worded letters with implied threats of future action like sending an account to a collection agency but they do not have subpoena power.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

It truly is presumptuous. She also knows it. And, since Trump started looking into that Biden/Ukraine corruption long before Biden announced, it is a reach to imply some sort of quid pro quo existed as relates to Biden the candidate. If there was actually any implied secretive quid pro quo it was to get Ukraine to look into corruption; investigate it and prosecute it. Biden could have even sniffed that out and decided to run as a shield defense.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

The presumption is to imply that is what Trump was trying to get. Had she known about Giuliani and Trump looking into the Biden affair as early as they had been, even Nancy might have refrained from that claim.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Tell us peter, why do you Trump h**ers avoid the FACT that Trump's favor was distinctly to look into Crowdstrike?? Do you think there is some sort of code Trump was using that means something mentioned later in the conversation was actually the thing the favor was all about?? Right! LOLOL!!!!!!!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Yep, and then use it in its never verified form to convince FISA judges to issue warrants to spy on e******n opposition and later a sitting president!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Only in the minds of the Trump h**ers.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Maybe Trump is clairvoyant and knew Biden would enter the race and have no chance of winning anyway! LOLOL!!!!

debeda

debeda

Right on

PeterS

Political abuse to one is defence of the constitution to the next guy. I'm sorry that Trump doesn't like to be investigated but it all comes with being a crook.

PeterS

Because on page 4 of the phone call Trump directly asks him to open an investigation into Joe and H****r.

Trump: The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so wh**ever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.

Previously Trump asked Z to talk to Guiliani and Barr in reference to this.

PeterS

Or maybe Trump was simply trying to dig up dirt on a potential opponent.

Augusta

H****r B***n met with top Chinese government fund leaders alongside managing partner Devon Archer and James Bulger, the nephew of notorious mobster Whitey Bulger. The meeting took place just hours before Vice President Biden would meet with Hu Jintao, then China's president, in Washington as part of a nuclear security summit. A second meeting that year between H****r B***n and other top Chinese officials would occur in Taiwan, just two weeks after Vice President Biden opened up strategic talks with China in Washington. In 2013, the younger Biden would be part of an official U.S. delegation to China. Ten days later, Rosemont entities inked a $1 billion deal with the Bank of China. The deal was eventually increased to $1.5 billion. H****r B***n’s deals with China would go on to have serious national security implications for the United States. One such deal was with the automotive subsidiary of Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a major Chinese military contractor accused of frequently stealing U.S. military technology. A private equity firm managed by H****r B***n struck a deal with China's state-owned bank in 2013 at the same time that Joe Biden was in the country to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

As first reported by The Hill, H****r B***n, who arrived in China aboard Air Force Two alongside his father and the rest of the U.S. delegation, was at the time in control of Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC., a private equity firm.

That firm that would go on to strike a deal with the state-owned Bank of China to create a $1 billion joint investment fund.