slatten49 wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/fact-checking-5-claims-about-the-impeachment-inquiry/ar-AAIG6WV?ocid=spartandhp
Interesting take. Heres the problems, as I see them. There is no clear case of asking a foreign government for "e******n i**********e". Joe Biden is not, and probably would not have been the democratic candidate. He was crashing and burning almost from the beginning.
Also, an inquiry cannot issue subpoenas.
Lastly, the country has impeachment exhaustion.
I am seriously almost to the point of WANTING HRC to run. Cuz even if she won she'd be "the devil we know" as the saying goes. I support President Trump and believe he's done a good job in fulfilling campaign promises. I do not and can not support the current iteration of the democratic platforms. I think a lot of people feel the same way, even long time Democrats. Dunno what to say about all this anymore. Even the NYT saying things are "musleading" is a misleading conclusion on their part.
slatten49 wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/fact-checking-5-claims-about-the-impeachment-inquiry/ar-AAIG6WV?ocid=spartandhp
Good information...
I found the fourth somewhat presumptuous on Chairwoman Pelosi's part...
debeda wrote:
Interesting take. Heres the problems, as I see them. There is no clear case of asking a foreign government for "e******n i**********e". Joe Biden is not, and probably would not have been the democratic candidate. He was crashing and burning almost from the beginning.
Also, an inquiry cannot issue subpoenas.
Lastly, the country has impeachment exhaustion.
I am seriously almost to the point of WANTING HRC to run. Cuz even if she won she'd be "the devil we know" as the saying goes. I support President Trump and believe he's done a good job in fulfilling campaign promises. I do not and can not support the current iteration of the democratic platforms. I think a lot of people feel the same way, even long time Democrats. Dunno what to say about all this anymore. Even the NYT saying things are "musleading" is a misleading conclusion on their part.
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Good points...
The first seems the most obvious to me... And it was that that I was referencing in my prior post concerning Pelosi's presumptiousness...
debeda wrote:
Interesting take. Heres the problems, as I see them. There is no clear case of asking a foreign government for "e******n i**********e". Joe Biden is not, and probably would not have been the democratic candidate. He was crashing and burning almost from the beginning.
Also, an inquiry cannot issue subpoenas.
Lastly, the country has impeachment exhaustion.
I am seriously almost to the point of WANTING HRC to run. Cuz even if she won she'd be "the devil we know" as the saying goes. I support President Trump and believe he's done a good job in fulfilling campaign promises. I do not and can not support the current iteration of the democratic platforms. I think a lot of people feel the same way, even long time Democrats. Dunno what to say about all this anymore. Even the NYT saying things are "musleading" is a misleading conclusion on their part.
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Where do you get the idea that congress can not issue subpoenas in the process of investigation, they can. And “impeachment exhaustion” give us a break, what the country is experiencing is exhaustion with the Cheeto faced S**tgibbon’s criminal buffoonery.
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Good information...
I found the fourth somewhat presumptuous on Chairwoman Pelosi's part...
"We don't ask foreign governments for help in our e******ns" And what is presumptuous about that?
debeda wrote:
Interesting take. Heres the problems, as I see them. There is no clear case of asking a foreign government for "e******n i**********e". Joe Biden is not, and probably would not have been the democratic candidate. He was crashing and burning almost from the beginning.
(1) When you are 30 points up (when Trump asked Zelensky a favor), the only place you can go is down. Currently, Biden and Warren are tied for the lead. Since you apparently have a crystal ball, why don't you tell the president who is going to be the nominee?
(2)
Snip>>> "Rudy very much knows what's happening and he's a very capable guy. If you would speak to him, that would be great (here Trump is asking president Z to speak to Rudy Giuliani who has taken the lead in investigating Biden and his son). The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, there is a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so wh**ever you can do with the attorney general would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it...it sounds horrible to me. (here Trump directly asks President Z to look into Joe Biden)Brackets are my comments. In statement one Trump asks Z to work with Rudy Giuliani, who is Trump's lead investigator on Biden and in statement two, Trump asks Z directly to look into Joe Biden. As I told CD, I can't make you comprehend this--but there is no more direct way to ask someone to investigate someone, who at the time was 30 points up and leading the Democratic field.
The rest of your statements about the house are nonsense, and in general, are relevant to conservatives but conservatives only make up about 35% of the country, not the majority. As hard as it is for you to comprehend there are far more Americans in this country than just you...
I can assure you that my impeachment tolerance is nowhere near exhaustion and won't be until he is packed up and leaving via the nearest uber.
Congress can use subpoena powers for legitimate reasons but not for POLITICAL ABUSE...The Constitution does say this.....
debeda wrote:
Interesting take. Heres the problems, as I see them. There is no clear case of asking a foreign government for "e******n i**********e". Joe Biden is not, and probably would not have been the democratic candidate. He was crashing and burning almost from the beginning.
Also, an inquiry cannot issue subpoenas.
Lastly, the country has impeachment exhaustion.
I am seriously almost to the point of WANTING HRC to run. Cuz even if she won she'd be "the devil we know" as the saying goes. I support President Trump and believe he's done a good job in fulfilling campaign promises. I do not and can not support the current iteration of the democratic platforms. I think a lot of people feel the same way, even long time Democrats. Dunno what to say about all this anymore. Even the NYT saying things are "musleading" is a misleading conclusion on their part.
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That's why you have an inquiry. This is the same lunacy that followed Mueller's "inquiry"...................determining the results before the investigation begins.
Kevyn wrote:
Where do you get the idea that congress can not issue subpoenas in the process of investigation, they can. And “impeachment exhaustion” give us a break, what the country is experiencing is exhaustion with the Cheeto faced S**tgibbon’s criminal buffoonery.
I said an inquiry. This is not yet an investigation.
PeterS wrote:
(1) When you are 30 points up (when Trump asked Zelensky a favor), the only place you can go is down. Currently, Biden and Warren are tied for the lead. Since you apparently have a crystal ball, why don't you tell the president who is going to be the nominee?
(2) Snip>>> "Rudy very much knows what's happening and he's a very capable guy. If you would speak to him, that would be great (here Trump is asking president Z to speak to Rudy Giuliani who has taken the lead in investigating Biden and his son). The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, there is a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so wh**ever you can do with the attorney general would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it...it sounds horrible to me. (here Trump directly asks President Z to look into Joe Biden)
Brackets are my comments. In statement one Trump asks Z to work with Rudy Giuliani, who is Trump's lead investigator on Biden and in statement two, Trump asks Z directly to look into Joe Biden. As I told CD, I can't make you comprehend this--but there is no more direct way to ask someone to investigate someone, who at the time was 30 points up and leading the Democratic field.
The rest of your statements about the house are nonsense, and in general, are relevant to conservatives but conservatives only make up about 35% of the country, not the majority. As hard as it is for you to comprehend there are far more Americans in this country than just you...
I can assure you that my impeachment tolerance is nowhere near exhaustion and won't be until he is packed up and leaving via the nearest uber.
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Plenty of more direct ways...
One could outright pay for a dossier on one's political opponents
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