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Oct 8, 2019 06:47:39   #
Rose42
 
Zemirah wrote:
Three pages beginning with personal insults, followed by precanned twisted Scriptures and repetitious private interpretation is not readable.


That sums it up nicely. Undortunately there are those who are deceived by it.

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Oct 8, 2019 10:41:30   #
Rose42
 
Peewee wrote:
It was so good! The person I wanted to hear most was Jim Barfield. He was the second speaker and he didn't disappoint. He covered so much ground. He's had a whirlwind ride since he made the discovery of Qumran and the buried treasures. He started out with an overview of his life before he got his download. All his research was his own and one day he was cutting his grass at home with a push lawnmower. Stopped, went to the house got a glass of ice tea, called his wife, asked her to sit down and started trying to explain to her what happened while cutting the grass. He told her he had been studying the Copper Scroll which consists of 12 panels. Hammered out as Babylon was headed to destroy Israel. It was hammered out from the back and upside down. So that when it was finished, turned over you could read it. So there were some mistakes because they were rushing to complete it. But just some letters stamped out backward but still readable.

He told his wife this is going to sound crazy but I think I'm a Benjamite. I know where the Temple treasures are buried but not because of my research. It was like I was remembering it being buried as if I was there when it happened. A few weeks later at work, it was the brown-bagging day of the week when everyone packs their own lunch and they all eat together. A Cheyenne woman he worked with said, I might be able to help you I know the guy who is over Qumran in Israel. I can give you his name, email address, and phone number and call him for you and set up an introduction and maybe a meeting. So that happened and he flew to Israel and they met.

It was kind of like yeah, sure, show me what you have. He showed him the first page and the guy's mouth dropped open. By the time he got to the 5th page the guy was in shock. And told him tomorrow we are going to Qumran. They walked the area with Jim pointed out the spots he believed held buried temple treasure. So they arranged for a certain type of ground sled metal detector. It can distinguish between gold, silver, and iron. When they got the results back it confirmed where the detector read huge amounts of gold and silver. It also confirmed that the temple mount is the correct spot of the temple. If you compare the Israel landmarks to the Qumran landmarks they match and have the same names. Qumran even matches Israel but on a smaller scale in reverse. They already have discovered 75 pounds of gemstones or a talent. of gemstones in a cave. According to the scroll, there should be 1,275 silver vessels, 900 talent of gold which is 181,250,000.00 in today's money. He said to look up and read the Damascus Document. Maybe you understand this and how to look it up "CD-A VIII, XV Damascus Doc". He also said to read 2nd Maccabees 1-8. Exodus 10:4 & 10:27, Hebrews 15 & 12-15. Moshe Feiglin-Hawk. I was writing fast so that may not be totally accurate and I haven't try to look it up yet. He also said read Hagy & Zach. Two young boys of about age 13 were chosen to give the secrets of Qumran because they might survive the 70 years of captivity in Babylon. There is suppose to be a copy of the scroll hidden with the treasure that is sealed so that if there is a dispute about the copper scroll the seal can be broken on the silver scroll and the dispute resolved. When you line up all the hot spots from the ground sled they are in a straight line. If you extend the line to the hills around Qumran, that's where they believe the Temple furniture is located. Qumran is in the territory of Benjamin. The cave where the gems were found was tested and covered with a man-made concrete plaster.

If Bibi is reelected and he secures the Jordan Valley and the area of Judea and Samaria they can probably do more excavations. Of course, if they dig it up now Jordan and the Palestinians will try and claim the treasures. So to me, that says Bibi will eventually be reelected as PM by his lonesome or jointly with Gantz. But now an Arab by the name of Ahmad Tibi who advised Arafat in the past may throw his hat in the ring. We live in interesting times.

Met Carl Gallops and his son who is doing great work in Peru. Zev Porat had us on our feet. L.A. Marzulli was great but I had heard and seen it on YT already. Jonathan Cahn and Carl Gallops are who I'm looking forward to tomorrow. It cost me 33.00 to park and I left early. Going to have to leave earlier in the morning so I can find a "free" parking space. SA has become a tourist trap Mecca downtown. Bicycle cops writing tickets were everywhere fleecing the public. May park further away and take a bus, taxi, or Uber to shuttle me to the Hyatt. A club sandwich at the Hyatt cost 13.00. Thankfully a Denny's is nearby and had a nice meal for 8.00. I become a tightwad at times when I feel I'm being ripped off. Other than that it was a great day and met some wonderful people. A pastor from north TX by the name of Todd Lawerence opened up the conference and he was really good and delivered a great message. My kind of preacher, about my age, funny but blunt, and nothing sugar-coated or watered down and he's only been preaching for about six months.
I spotted two for real cowboys, I can tell, looked like calf ropers or bull doggers, very stout men. If they were wearing different duds I'd think they were professional wrestlers or pro football players. Will try to speak with them tomorrow just out of curiosity. They look like dad and son but don't favor one another. Maybe they teamed up to compete in team roping or something. If they are somewhat local maybe I can bum a ride on another good horse before I get too old.
It was so good! The person I wanted to hear most w... (show quote)


Sounds like a great time.

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Oct 10, 2019 08:29:06   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Zemirah wrote:
I've seen most every Bible translation in major Bible stores, and have never seen one that ever even insinuated that Eve had sex with Satan.

As the famous Theologian, Francis Schaeffer said, "God has spoken, and he does not stutter."

If the Holy Spirit had wanted to say that Eve had sex with a serpent, he would have inspired Moses to write it down that way.

It was their disobedience that was the sin. They were told not to eat the fruit, and did so anyway. They disobeyed God.

Jesus said He had ever taught openly, and in secret had said nothing, so it's not decipherable from a "secret code."

John 18:20 "Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing."
I've seen most every Bible translation in major Bi... (show quote)


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Here, let me reply to you in the format of your own words and let's see if you still can't understand what I'm saying, and condemn the way I say it:

I've seen most every Bible translation in biblehub.org and PC Study Bible, and have never seen one that ever even insinuated that God is a Trinity of persons in one substance.

As the famous Theologian, Francis Schaeffer said, "God has spoken, and he does not stutter."

If the Holy Spirit had wanted to say that God was a Trinity of three persons in one substance, he would have inspired Moses to write it down that way.

It is disobedience that is the sin. We all have been commanded to believe "Yahweh is one", and we're commanded not to go to the gods of the nations round about them. Trinitarians disobey God.

Jesus said He had ever taught openly, and in secret had said nothing, so it's not decipherable from a "secret code."

John 18:20 "Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing."

Jesus openly taught and affirmed that God is one He, not three "them":

One of the scribes came, and…asked him, ‘Which commandment is the most important [or first] of all?’ Jesus answered, ‘The most important is, ‘Hear, Israel, the Lord our God, [grammatical number: singular] the Lord is one [grammatical number: singular]: you shall love the Lord your God [grammatical number: singular] with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment... The scribe said to him, ‘Truly, teacher, you have said well that He [grammatical number: singular] is one, and there is none other...’ When Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, ‘You are not far from the Kingdom of God.” (Mark 12:28–34)

"The Lord our God (grammatical number: singular) is one* (grammatical number: singular)" Mark 12:29

*One: Greek "heîs, hice; a primary numeral; one" -Strong's

God is one, not three, according to Jesus.

Zemirah wrote:
The parables of Jesus are understandable. He does not "bait and switch" between eating a piece of fruit and having sex with a serpent.

Puffing oneself up with self-importance, believing one has "secret knowledge" which others do not is the ancient error of Gnosticism.


"For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned" Matthew 12:37

The commandments of Jesus are understandable. He doesn’t bait and switch. He doesn't say believe God is one "he" when he really meant three "them". The doctrine of dual natures is one of the ancient errors of Gnosticism, in fact it is THE reason John wrote to expose and condemn antiChristians:

"Therefore did the Lord also say to his disciples…’Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise again from the dead, and that repentance for the remission of sins be preached in his name among all nations.’ Now this is he who was born of Mary; for he says: ‘The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected, and crucified, and on the third day rise again.’ The Gospel, therefore, knew no other son of man but him who was of Mary, who also suffered; and no Christ who flew away from Jesus before the passion; but him who was born it knew as Jesus Christ the Son of God, and that this same suffered and rose again, as John, the disciple of the Lord, verifies, saying: ‘But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing ye might have eternal life in his name,’ –foreseeing these blasphemous systems which divide the Lord, as far as lies in their power, saying that he was formed of two different substances. For this reason also he has thus testified to us in his Epistle: ‘Little children, it is the last time; and as ye have heard that Antichrist doth come, now have many antichrists appeared…’” Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book 3, Chapter 16, par. 5

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Oct 10, 2019 19:26:24   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Greek-word-Theos-in-the-Septuagint-LXX-plural-or-singular

"The translation to any language from the plural hebrew to other language is singular "God". But the original Hebrew word is plural and btw the plural of majesty was in use until 4th century AD. so the torah speaks. clearly of a plural God that speaks in singular verbs mostly, the triune God."



TommyRadd wrote:
"For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned" Matthew 12:37

The commandments of Jesus are understandable. He doesn’t bait and switch. He doesn't say believe God is one "he" when he really meant three "them". The doctrine of dual natures is one of the ancient errors of Gnosticism, in fact it is THE reason John wrote to expose and condemn antiChristians:

"Therefore did the Lord also say to his disciples…’Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise again from the dead, and that repentance for the remission of sins be preached in his name among all nations.’ Now this is he who was born of Mary; for he says: ‘The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected, and crucified, and on the third day rise again.’ The Gospel, therefore, knew no other son of man but him who was of Mary, who also suffered; and no Christ who flew away from Jesus before the passion; but him who was born it knew as Jesus Christ the Son of God, and that this same suffered and rose again, as John, the disciple of the Lord, verifies, saying: ‘But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing ye might have eternal life in his name,’ –foreseeing these blasphemous systems which divide the Lord, as far as lies in their power, saying that he was formed of two different substances. For this reason also he has thus testified to us in his Epistle: ‘Little children, it is the last time; and as ye have heard that Antichrist doth come, now have many antichrists appeared…’” Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book 3, Chapter 16, par. 5
"For by your words you will be justified, and... (show quote)

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Oct 10, 2019 20:40:16   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Zemirah wrote:
https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Greek-word-Theos-in-the-Septuagint-LXX-plural-or-singular

"The translation to any language from the plural hebrew to other language is singular "God". But the original Hebrew word is plural and btw the plural of majesty was in use until 4th century AD. so the torah speaks. clearly of a plural God that speaks in singular verbs mostly, the triune God."


So, Jesus wasn’t able to clarify what he considered the most important commandment, and therefore it came out of his mouth as a poor translation? Jesus himself, the word of God, was forced to use words that meant exactly other than what he meant? So much so that what he said amounts to a bait and switch?

Either that or you are just predisposed to believe what you can jump to conclusions over, to the contrary of his choice of words in his most import commandment.

And, again, where does it ever say “God is three persons in one essence”? The Bible doesn’t ever say that anymore than it says Eve had sex with the devil! Apparently God forgot to give Moses or Jesus or any of the apostles that essential piece of understanding, it had to come to the church by way of Constantine’s council. Sounds like that hidden wisdom of the Gnostics. You do know that Constantine was the legal heir to the throne of satan, don’t you? The Roman Emperors inherited the throne of satan’s that had settled at Pergamom. And he’s the one who insisted on “homoousious” (same-substance) being added to the “creed”.

So the “one essence” teaching didn’t come from God in the Bible it came from the devil’s personal, legal heir on earth! How in the world do you justify that? Oh I know, pretend it didn’t happen that way.

Plural of majesty has nothing to do with “persons.”

In fact if the word “God” is a plural word, like our word “sheep”, then you have plural gods, not plural persons within one god, the plural being “gods” not “persons.” So the fact that you’re very insistent on pluralizing the word “god” proves you are a polytheist, a person who believes in plural gods. You’ve just admitted it, and in your next reply I imagine you’re going to deny it.

That’s called a shell game. You are adamant that “god” (Elohim) is plural until you are accused of being a polytheist because that is the word that describes the belief in “plural gods” which you just claimed to believe. But then you are insulted and defensive for being called a polytheist, even though you just defended the belief in “plural gods” (Elohim).

A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Nowhere in the Bible does it describe God as “three persons”. In fact, it says:

“He will surely reprove you, if you do secretly accept persons.” Job 13:10

Did God stutter? Why didn’t Moses write it “God in three persons of one essence”? It’s because that isn’t what God meant, or He would have had it written that way.

God’s name, even in the OT, was “I am that I am” singular, not “we are that we are” plural. So your plural argument for the word Elohim doesn’t work with God’s Own name. So you change it to “Trinity” contrary to God Himself.

So in your estimation God couldn’t even get his own name right, because there are three of them with that singular name Yahweh. There again, you have three gods who go by a name that is absolutely grammatically singular. And you think the rest of us are confused.

If the singular part of God is merely the essence that the three persons share, then your “one god” is not a personal god, it’s just an impersonal substance. The personality only appears in each of the three thirds of the god-substance you call “one god.” God’s word never described God in such terms. That is what makes the Trinity a man-made idol. It was designed and defined by man, and not by God Himself.

So by name, you don’t worship the God of the Bible, whose name is Yahweh (always in the singular) but you worship a God whose name is totally alien to the Bible: “Trinity”.

God is not mocked. Keep trying to justify your 3-god idolatry, you’re obviously enamored by it to no end, but it isn’t what the Bible teaches. Because polytheism is what you Trinitarians read back into (eisegesis) the text by ignoring the historical development of the Trinity and rewriting history to suit your liking... even to the point of claiming Jews, who would actually be appalled at your Trinity, believed like you do.

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Oct 11, 2019 02:48:49   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
I need justify nothing.

Your war is not with me, though you try to make it so.

Your war is against the God of Creation.

You appear as your own video to "Why do the heathen rage?"


TommyRadd wrote:
So, Jesus wasn’t able to clarify what he considered the most important commandment, and therefore it came out of his mouth as a poor translation? Jesus himself, the word of God, was forced to use words that meant exactly other than what he meant? So much so that what he said amounts to a bait and switch?

Either that or you are just predisposed to believe what you can jump to conclusions over, to the contrary of his choice of words in his most import commandment.

And, again, where does it ever say “God is three persons in one essence”? The Bible doesn’t ever say that anymore than it says Eve had sex with the devil! Apparently God forgot to give Moses or Jesus or any of the apostles that essential piece of understanding, it had to come to the church by way of Constantine’s council. Sounds like that hidden wisdom of the Gnostics. You do know that Constantine was the legal heir to the throne of satan, don’t you? The Roman Emperors inherited the throne of satan’s that had settled at Pergamom. And he’s the one who insisted on “homoousious” (same-substance) being added to the “creed”.

So the “one essence” teaching didn’t come from God in the Bible it came from the devil’s personal, legal heir on earth! How in the world do you justify that? Oh I know, pretend it didn’t happen that way.

Plural of majesty has nothing to do with “persons.”

In fact if the word “God” is a plural word, like our word “sheep”, then you have plural gods, not plural persons within one god, the plural being “gods” not “persons.” So the fact that you’re very insistent on pluralizing the word “god” proves you are a polytheist, a person who believes in plural gods. You’ve just admitted it, and in your next reply I imagine you’re going to deny it.

That’s called a shell game. You are adamant that “god” (Elohim) is plural until you are accused of being a polytheist because that is the word that describes the belief in “plural gods” which you just claimed to believe. But then you are insulted and defensive for being called a polytheist, even though you just defended the belief in “plural gods” (Elohim).

A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Nowhere in the Bible does it describe God as “three persons”. In fact, it says:

“He will surely reprove you, if you do secretly accept persons.” Job 13:10

Did God stutter? Why didn’t Moses write it “God in three persons of one essence”? It’s because that isn’t what God meant, or He would have had it written that way.

God’s name, even in the OT, was “I am that I am” singular, not “we are that we are” plural. So your plural argument for the word Elohim doesn’t work with God’s Own name. So you change it to “Trinity” contrary to God Himself.

So in your estimation God couldn’t even get his own name right, because there are three of them with that singular name Yahweh. There again, you have three gods who go by a name that is absolutely grammatically singular. And you think the rest of us are confused.

If the singular part of God is merely the essence that the three persons share, then your “one god” is not a personal god, it’s just an impersonal substance. The personality only appears in each of the three thirds of the god-substance you call “one god.” God’s word never described God in such terms. That is what makes the Trinity a man-made idol. It was designed and defined by man, and not by God Himself.

So by name, you don’t worship the God of the Bible, whose name is Yahweh (always in the singular) but you worship a God whose name is totally alien to the Bible: “Trinity”.

God is not mocked. Keep trying to justify your 3-god idolatry, you’re obviously enamored by it to no end, but it isn’t what the Bible teaches. Because polytheism is what you Trinitarians read back into (eisegesis) the text by ignoring the historical development of the Trinity and rewriting history to suit your liking... even to the point of claiming Jews, who would actually be appalled at your Trinity, believed like you do.
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Oct 11, 2019 09:35:16   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Zemirah wrote:
I need justify nothing.

Your war is not with me, though you try to make it so.

Your war is against the God of Creation.

You appear as your own video to "Why do the heathen rage?"


“He answered, "Haven't you read that he (masculine singular) who made them from the beginning made them male and female” Matthew 19:4

Jesus said He had ever taught openly, and in secret had said nothing, so it's not decipherable from a "secret code."

John 18:20 "Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing."

“So God created man in His (masculine singular) own image; in the image of God He (singular) created him; male and female He (singular) created them.” Genesis 1:27

“Male and female He (masculine singular) created them, and He (singular) blessed them. And in the day they were created, He (singular) called them "man.’” Genesis 5:2

“I (first person singular) have made the earth, and created man on it. I (singular), even my hands, have stretched out the heavens; and I (singular) have commanded all their army.” Isaiah 45:12

“You (singular) alone (singular) are the LORD (singular). You (singular) created the heavens, the highest heavens with all their host, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them. You (singular) give life to all things, and the heavenly host worships You (singular).” Nehemiah 9:6

“Can you, like Him (singular), spread out the skies to reflect the heat like a mirror of bronze?” Job 37:18

"He (singular) wraps Himself (singular) in light as with a garment; He stretches out the heavens like a tent," Psalm 104:2

"O LORD (singular) of Hosts, God of Israel, enthroned above the cherubim, You (singular) alone (singular) are God over all the kingdoms of the earth. You (singular) made the heavens and the earth." Isaiah 37:16

"Thus says God (singular) the LORD (singular) --He (singular) who (singular) created (singular) the heavens and stretched them out, who (singular) spread out the earth and its offspring, who gives breath to the people on it and life to those who walk in it" Isaiah 42:5

"Thus says the LORD (singular), your Redeemer (singular) who (singular) formed you from the womb: "I (singular) am the LORD (singular), who has made all things, who (singular) alone (singular) stretched out the heavens, who (singular) by Myself (singular) spread out the earth," Isaiah 44:24

"For thus says the LORD(singular)--He who (singular) created the heavens; He (singular)is God; He (singular) formed the earth and fashioned it; He (singular) established it; He (singular) did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited--"I (singular) am the LORD (singular), and there is no other." Isaiah 45:18

"Surely My own (singular) hand founded the earth, and My (singular) right hand spread out the heavens; when I summon them, they stand up together." Isaiah 48:13

"But you have forgotten the LORD (singular), your Maker (singular), who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth. You live in terror all day long because of the fury of the oppressor, who is bent on destruction. But where is the fury of the oppressor?" Isaiah 51:13

“By My great power and outstretched arm, I made the earth and the men and beasts on the face of it, and I give it to whom I please.” Jeremiah 27:5

"You shall say this to them: The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, these shall perish from the earth, and from under the heavens." Jeremiah 10:11

As the famous Theologian, Francis Schaeffer said, "God has spoken, and he does not stutter."

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Oct 11, 2019 09:58:44   #
Rose42
 
Zemirah wrote:
I need justify nothing.

Your war is not with me, though you try to make it so.

Your war is against the God of Creation.

You appear as your own video to "Why do the heathen rage?"


A good assessment. Hopefully he will realize who his war is with. But he has to realize too that he hasn't stopped sinning - no one can do that in their mortal bodies.

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Oct 11, 2019 10:33:27   #
bahmer
 
Rose42 wrote:
A good assessment. Hopefully he will realize who his war is with. But he has to realize too that he hasn't stopped sinning - no one can do that in their mortal bodies.


That is why I have lumped him in with susanblange they seem to be cut from the same cloth.

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Oct 11, 2019 11:14:44   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
TommyRadd wrote:
“He answered, "Haven't you read that he (masculine singular) who made them from the beginning made them male and female” Matthew 19:4

Jesus said He had ever taught openly, and in secret had said nothing, so it's not decipherable from a "secret code."

John 18:20 "Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing."

“So God created man in His (masculine singular) own image; in the image of God He (singular) created him; male and female He (singular) created them.” Genesis 1:27

“Male and female He (masculine singular) created them, and He (singular) blessed them. And in the day they were created, He (singular) called them "man.’” Genesis 5:2

“I (first person singular) have made the earth, and created man on it. I (singular), even my hands, have stretched out the heavens; and I (singular) have commanded all their army.” Isaiah 45:12

“You (singular) alone (singular) are the LORD (singular). You (singular) created the heavens, the highest heavens with all their host, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them. You (singular) give life to all things, and the heavenly host worships You (singular).” Nehemiah 9:6

“Can you, like Him (singular), spread out the skies to reflect the heat like a mirror of bronze?” Job 37:18

"He (singular) wraps Himself (singular) in light as with a garment; He stretches out the heavens like a tent," Psalm 104:2

"O LORD (singular) of Hosts, God of Israel, enthroned above the cherubim, You (singular) alone (singular) are God over all the kingdoms of the earth. You (singular) made the heavens and the earth." Isaiah 37:16

"Thus says God (singular) the LORD (singular) --He (singular) who (singular) created (singular) the heavens and stretched them out, who (singular) spread out the earth and its offspring, who gives breath to the people on it and life to those who walk in it" Isaiah 42:5

"Thus says the LORD (singular), your Redeemer (singular) who (singular) formed you from the womb: "I (singular) am the LORD (singular), who has made all things, who (singular) alone (singular) stretched out the heavens, who (singular) by Myself (singular) spread out the earth," Isaiah 44:24

"For thus says the LORD(singular)--He who (singular) created the heavens; He (singular)is God; He (singular) formed the earth and fashioned it; He (singular) established it; He (singular) did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited--"I (singular) am the LORD (singular), and there is no other." Isaiah 45:18

"Surely My own (singular) hand founded the earth, and My (singular) right hand spread out the heavens; when I summon them, they stand up together." Isaiah 48:13

"But you have forgotten the LORD (singular), your Maker (singular), who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth. You live in terror all day long because of the fury of the oppressor, who is bent on destruction. But where is the fury of the oppressor?" Isaiah 51:13

“By My great power and outstretched arm, I made the earth and the men and beasts on the face of it, and I give it to whom I please.” Jeremiah 27:5

"You shall say this to them: The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, these shall perish from the earth, and from under the heavens." Jeremiah 10:11

As the famous Theologian, Francis Schaeffer said, "God has spoken, and he does not stutter."
“He answered, "Haven't you read that he (masc... (show quote)


Confused

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Oct 11, 2019 11:15:38   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
A good assessment. Hopefully he will realize who his war is with. But he has to realize too that he hasn't stopped sinning - no one can do that in their mortal bodies.


Tommy has claimed to have stopped sinning?

Crucify him

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Oct 11, 2019 11:16:13   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
bahmer wrote:
That is why I have lumped him in with susanblange they seem to be cut from the same cloth.


Except Tommy makes sense...

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Oct 11, 2019 11:18:20   #
bahmer
 
Rose42 wrote:
A good assessment. Hopefully he will realize who his war is with. But he has to realize too that he hasn't stopped sinning - no one can do that in their mortal bodies.


I would suggest that he start with John 1 as a jumping off point.

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Oct 11, 2019 11:21:34   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
bahmer wrote:
I would suggest that he start with John 1 as a jumping off point.


He did... Go back to page two of this thread

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Oct 11, 2019 11:40:43   #
bahmer
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
He did... Go back to page two of this thread


I see that he commented on it but again I don't put any faith in his interpretations and as such I had just skipped over it. Thanks.

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