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Aug 23, 2019 13:09:38   #
debeda
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
As a comedian once said, it's a real rip-off!

As a comedian once said, it's a real rip-off! br ... (show quote)


Ohhhhh...badddddddd

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Aug 23, 2019 13:11:32   #
debeda
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I don't like hearing the word t*********r or L**T. It sounds d********g. Much more so when these people want to t***sform themselves to become female when actually they are male. They could not have medical changes.

I think these men are obnoxious. All they have to do is think/believe that they are men. Not women. Or women not men. Know their physical body and accept how they are developed. Their mental set will change to normal behavior.

============= br I don't like hearing the word t**... (show quote)


YES!! There has been a movement for some years to accept your body if you're obese. (Which can be remedied by lifestyle changes) What makes this different?

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Aug 23, 2019 14:59:04   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
debeda wrote:
https://www.judicialwatch.org/corruption-chronicles/obama-judge-rules-medicaid-must-pay-for-t*********r-sex-reassignment-surgery/

Article


Debeda,
We live in a free country and we citizens should use the free market to solve our health problems. We should not rely upon the government that finds it cheaper to k**l us than cure us even before we make it out of the womb.

But I think you are asking the wrong question by promoting an inflammatory debate.

Let me ask you: What is eating up everybody's hormones, especially testosterone?

Testosterone is vital for cancer prevention:

Testosterone therapy may reduce prostate cancer risk due to testosterone deficiency at a young age via stabilizing serum testosterone levels.
https://www.urotoday.com/recent-abstracts/urologic-oncology/prostate-cancer/111078-testosterone-therapy-may-reduce-prostate-cancer-risk-due-to-testosterone-deficiency-at-a-young-age-via-stabilizing-serum-testosterone-levels.html


Testosterone and breast cancer prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26160683
Abstract
"Testosterone (T) is the most abundant biologically active hormone in women. Androgen receptors (AR) are located throughout the body including the breast where T decreases tissue proliferation. However, T can be aromatized to estradiol (E2), which increases proliferation and hence, breast cancer (BCA) risk. Increased aromatase expression and an imbalance in the ratio of stimulatory estrogens to protective androgens impacts breast homeostasis. Recent clinical data supports a role for T in BCA prevention. Women with symptoms of hormone deficiency treated with pharmacological doses of T alone or in combination with anastrozole (A), delivered by subcutaneous implants, had a reduced incidence of BCA. In addition, T combined with A effectively treated symptoms of hormone deficiency in BCA survivors and was not associated with recurrent disease. Most notably, T+A implants placed in breast tissue surrounding malignant tumors significantly reduced BCA tumor size, further supporting T direct antiproliferative, protective and therapeutic effect."

Exercise is one way to increase the necessary levels of testosterone production in both men and women. But, in society today, we have an over abundance of natural Estrogen (birth control and prenatal care oxytocin) and synthetic Estrogen hormones (biphenyl-6 herbicides) that are creating an imbalance of testosterone levels and literally neutering the nation, ruining our health:

The Lost Boys of Aamjiwnaang
http://www.menshealth.com/health/industrial-pollution-health-hazards

A Cohort Study of Behavioral Problems and Intelligence in Children With High Prenatal Polychlorinated Biphenyl Exposure November 2002
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/206854?resultClick=1
"One other possible mechanism is that the planar dioxinlike congeners alter brain corticosteroid levels during development, which changes brain organization and the regulation of dopaminergic systems.25 The PCBs or possibly their hydroxylated metabolites can interfere with thyroid hormone and estrogen signaling.24...
footnote 24: Seegal RE The neurotoxicological consequences of developmental exposure to PCBs. Toxicol Sci. 2000;571-3

Sex differences in microRNA-m**A networks: examination of novel epigenetic programming mechanisms in the sexually dimorphic neonatal hypothalamus
https://bsd.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13293-017-0149-3 Biology of Sex Differences

Of course, the mainstream media is hell bent on divide and conquering the public for political purposes, which is a shame. One thing we Americans all have in common, rich, poor, white, black, old or young, healthy or handicapped, and anybody in between: we don't like anyone else or the government telling us what to do.

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Aug 23, 2019 15:08:16   #
debeda
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Debeda,
We live in a free country and we citizens should use the free market to solve our health problems. We should not rely upon the government that finds it cheaper to k**l us than cure us even before we make it out of the womb.

But I think you are asking the wrong question by promoting an inflammatory debate.

Let me ask you: What is eating up everybody's hormones, especially testosterone?

Testosterone is vital for cancer prevention:

Testosterone therapy may reduce prostate cancer risk due to testosterone deficiency at a young age via stabilizing serum testosterone levels.
https://www.urotoday.com/recent-abstracts/urologic-oncology/prostate-cancer/111078-testosterone-therapy-may-reduce-prostate-cancer-risk-due-to-testosterone-deficiency-at-a-young-age-via-stabilizing-serum-testosterone-levels.html


Testosterone and breast cancer prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26160683
Abstract
"Testosterone (T) is the most abundant biologically active hormone in women. Androgen receptors (AR) are located throughout the body including the breast where T decreases tissue proliferation. However, T can be aromatized to estradiol (E2), which increases proliferation and hence, breast cancer (BCA) risk. Increased aromatase expression and an imbalance in the ratio of stimulatory estrogens to protective androgens impacts breast homeostasis. Recent clinical data supports a role for T in BCA prevention. Women with symptoms of hormone deficiency treated with pharmacological doses of T alone or in combination with anastrozole (A), delivered by subcutaneous implants, had a reduced incidence of BCA. In addition, T combined with A effectively treated symptoms of hormone deficiency in BCA survivors and was not associated with recurrent disease. Most notably, T+A implants placed in breast tissue surrounding malignant tumors significantly reduced BCA tumor size, further supporting T direct antiproliferative, protective and therapeutic effect."

Exercise is one way to increase the necessary levels of testosterone production in both men and women. But, in society today, we have an over abundance of natural Estrogen (birth control and prenatal care oxytocin) and synthetic Estrogen hormones (biphenyl-6 herbicides) that are creating an imbalance of testosterone levels and literally neutering the nation, ruining our health:

The Lost Boys of Aamjiwnaang
http://www.menshealth.com/health/industrial-pollution-health-hazards

A Cohort Study of Behavioral Problems and Intelligence in Children With High Prenatal Polychlorinated Biphenyl Exposure November 2002
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/206854?resultClick=1
"One other possible mechanism is that the planar dioxinlike congeners alter brain corticosteroid levels during development, which changes brain organization and the regulation of dopaminergic systems.25 The PCBs or possibly their hydroxylated metabolites can interfere with thyroid hormone and estrogen signaling.24...
footnote 24: Seegal RE The neurotoxicological consequences of developmental exposure to PCBs. Toxicol Sci. 2000;571-3

Sex differences in microRNA-m**A networks: examination of novel epigenetic programming mechanisms in the sexually dimorphic neonatal hypothalamus
https://bsd.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13293-017-0149-3 Biology of Sex Differences

Of course, the mainstream media is hell bent on divide and conquering the public for political purposes, which is a shame. One thing we Americans all have in common, rich, poor, white, black, old or young, healthy or handicapped, and anybody in between: we don't like anyone else or the government telling us what to do.
Debeda, br We live in a free country and we citize... (show quote)


Preaching to the choir. I avoid doctors as much as possible. Even set 2 broken toes myself 6 years ago. I went to a doctor starting in January this year. First time I've had a doctor in 35 years (since my youngest was born.). Got tests, refused some, was offered drugs, declined. I take personal responsibility for my health. Others should to. Whenever you give up your personal sovereignty to others in any aspect, you're being a dunderhead.

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Aug 23, 2019 15:32:44   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Seth wrote:
It seems like a strategy for programming the public for socialism. They figure that once we get used to paying for things as off the wall as this, we'll more easily accept less freaky "taxpayer spending" programs.


This is an assault on physics, biology, history, genetics and reason.

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Aug 23, 2019 15:50:09   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
debeda wrote:
https://www.judicialwatch.org/corruption-chronicles/obama-judge-rules-medicaid-must-pay-for-t*********r-sex-reassignment-surgery/

Article


I liked Mattis' quote "We're not here to buy you a new dress." They don't want psychological help because that's how we find the f**ers. It may be just this guy, I've known one for 12 years he doesn't want the SRS, he's straight. Breaks down all the stereotypes, huh?

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Aug 23, 2019 15:59:36   #
debeda
 
BigMike wrote:
This is an assault on physics, biology, history, genetics and reason.



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Aug 23, 2019 16:00:06   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
debeda wrote:
Preaching to the choir. I avoid doctors as much as possible. Even set 2 broken toes myself 6 years ago. I went to a doctor starting in January this year. First time I've had a doctor in 35 years (since my youngest was born.). Got tests, refused some, was offered drugs, declined. I take personal responsibility for my health. Others should to. Whenever you give up your personal sovereignty to others in any aspect, you're being a dunderhead.


Good for you. Go to the front of the class.

Socialism is s***ery, a voluntary symbiotic relationship between the arrogant and the apathetic.
We had the American Revolution to end this centralized planned economy under the British empire.
Oh, why do our public schools not teach the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution anymore?

The Democrats offer everything for free but the freedom to choose. Their f**e compassion, their condescending coddling of my welfare, their every effort to silence us conservatives makes my blood boil.

Let us all be happily married and raise a handsome family. That ends the loneliness. Have you ever considered that Darwin's theory of evolution and his hypothesis of natural se******n by random mutations is flat out wrong? Marriage is the biggest force of natural se******n. It beats random mutations by about 1 trillion years raised to the 27th power according to that video "Privileged Planet" on Intelligent Design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmIc42oRjm8
Privileged Planet
Dr. Gonzales
The Discovery Institute

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Aug 23, 2019 16:00:28   #
debeda
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
I liked Mattis' quote "We're not here to buy you a new dress." They don't want psychological help because that's how we find the f**ers. It may be just this guy, I've known one for 12 years he doesn't want the SRS, he's straight. Breaks down all the stereotypes, huh?


UGH. I h**e it that these things are even a dang issue

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Aug 23, 2019 16:01:52   #
debeda
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Good for you. Go to the front of the class.

Socialism is s***ery, a voluntary symbiotic relationship between the arrogant and the apathetic.
We had the American Revolution to end this centralized planned economy under the British empire.
Oh, why do our public schools not teach the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution anymore?

The Democrats offer everything for free but the freedom to choose. Their f**e compassion, their condescending coddling of my welfare, their every effort to silence us conservatives makes my blood boil.

Let us all be happily married and raise a handsome family. That ends the loneliness. Have you ever considered that Darwin's theory of evolution and his hypothesis of natural se******n by random mutations is flat out wrong? Marriage is the biggest force natural se******n. It beats random mutations by about 1 trillion years raised to the 27th power according to that video "Privileged Planet" on Intelligent Design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmIc42oRjm8
Privileged Planet
Dr. Gonzales
The Discovery Institute
Good for you. Go to the front of the class. br b... (show quote)


Socialism is s***ery. Too much centralized control of any sort without consensus is s***ery.

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Aug 23, 2019 16:10:23   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
debeda wrote:
Socialism is s***ery. Too much centralized control of any sort without consensus is s***ery.


That statement puzzles me "control … without consensus."
That usually ends in war.

It is control with consensus that scares the livinbejesus outa me.
I don't want to live amongst these "sheeple-people."

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Aug 23, 2019 16:19:36   #
debeda
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
That statement puzzles me "control … without consensus."
That usually ends in war.

It is control with consensus that scares the livinbejesus outa me.


To me, control WITH consensus is agreeing we need traffic light. A fire department. Schools. Things like that.
Control without consensus is what's going on in Illinois. Since a dem governor was elected, and a dem supermajority, which were sworn in the end of January, this is what we've gotten:
Full term a******n (infanticide) - Legal;
HB 246 - As of the 2020/21 school year, all public school system students, K-12, will learn L***Q history as part of the curriculum - Passed;
Doubled gas tax - passed;
50% increase in vehicle registration- passed;
Recreational marijuana- Legal;
Retail sale of recreational marijuana - Legal;
Double the amount of gambling casinos - passed.
NOBODY knew these things were on the table until they were written into law. THATS control with no consensus. IMO

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Aug 23, 2019 16:37:19   #
Tug484
 
debeda wrote:
Good grief!!! I am hoping that we can still turn the lunacy around, but my gosh this is so nuts


So are most of us.

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Aug 23, 2019 17:38:15   #
Seth
 
debeda wrote:
Programming the public to be shhep. WHY are so many going along?


"Cause they promise freebeeez!" -- 🐑

"Yay, freebeeez, you work hard, we collect!" -- 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑

The solution? 🐶-- "Hey, food!"

🐺 -- "Here, sheepie sheepie."

🐑🐑🐑🐑 -- "Oh, no!"

🐶 -- "Pass the salt." 🐺 -- "Here you go."

🍽️🐑🍷🍴

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Aug 23, 2019 17:50:32   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
debeda wrote:
To me, control WITH consensus is agreeing we need traffic light. A fire department. Schools. Things like that.
Control without consensus is what's going on in Illinois. Since a dem governor was elected, and a dem supermajority, which were sworn in the end of January, this is what we've gotten:
Full term a******n (infanticide) - Legal;
HB 246 - As of the 2020/21 school year, all public school system students, K-12, will learn L***Q history as part of the curriculum - Passed;
Doubled gas tax - passed;
50% increase in vehicle registration- passed;
Recreational marijuana- Legal;
Retail sale of recreational marijuana - Legal;
Double the amount of gambling casinos - passed.
NOBODY knew these things were on the table until they were written into law. THATS control with no consensus. IMO
To me, control WITH consensus is agreeing we need ... (show quote)


Debeda, you say: "NOBODY knew these things were on the table until they were written into law. THAT'S control with no consensus."

If that's your definition of "control with no consensus," then I understand your thoughts and must agree with you here. But honestly, is it true that "NOBODY KNEW" ? Ah, the villain is the mainstream media, then? Or is it apathy of the public coupled with the arrogance of the Democrats in office?

The jury is out. We little people chit-chat amongst each-other on OPP, but how big is their readership?

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