WTF ?!?!? A court ruling just changed how we pick our president (Page 2): Wow! Something of intelligence and accuracy & not laden with h**e from PeterS. Will wonders never cease?

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

PeterS wrote:

We aren't a democracy remember. Only democracies follow majority rule...

Wow! Something of intelligence and accuracy & not laden with h**e from PeterS. Will wonders never cease?

PeterS

EmilyD wrote:

We are a Republic, Pete. Always have been...always will be.

Republic: A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

Then you have no problem with e*****rs having the power to v**e for whomever they want. After all, if this was a winner take all there would be no need for E*****rs as there is no constitutional requirement for them to v**e for the majority winner if they don't think the winner is the best person qualified. This is the system you cons embrace over what you perceive to be a democracy so I can't see that any of you would object to the ruling by this court.

You all are constitutionalists and are Republicans who h**e democracies. So live with it...

PeterS

crazylibertarian wrote:

Wow! Something of intelligence and accuracy & not laden with h**e from PeterS. Will wonders never cease?

Actually, it was a completely stupid comment. A representative republic is simply the form of democracy that we employ. In most cases, ours is majority rule. In the case of the e*******l college that is the exception. I am simply playing on you conservatives ability towards willful ignorance--especially where it agrees with the way you think.

rebob14

woodguru wrote:

That was the purpose of the e*******l college, to act as a foil to bad choices. But you apparently believe that a state's e*******l should all go to the popular v**e and disregard the population that didn't v**e for them? Let the e*******l be split according to popular v**e, the GOP is dead because they are controlling states with minority GOP v**ers. Democracy is about majority rule, not minority.

Except there are fifty e******ns, not one! That can’t be Changed by bypassing the E*******l College and calling us a democracy...........we’re not and we’re never founded as one.

PeterS

rebob14 wrote:

Except there are fifty e******ns, not one! That can’t be Changed by bypassing the E*******l College and calling us a democracy...........we’re not and we’re never founded as one.

A representative Republic is THE form of Democracy that we practice. That said, based on our constitution there is nothing to require an e*****r to v**e for a candidate they feel is unfit--even if that is the person the majority of the state v**ed for.

The court hasn't changed how we pick our president. I simply don't think you conservatives understand how we elect our president or why the founders set it up as they did which is why you cons think the court is somehow trying to steal something from you and that a representative republic isn't a democracy!!!

Wonttakeitanymore

woodguru wrote:

That was the purpose of the e*******l college, to act as a foil to bad choices. But you apparently believe that a state's e*******l should all go to the popular v**e and disregard the population that didn't v**e for them? Let the e*******l be split according to popular v**e, the GOP is dead because they are controlling states with minority GOP v**ers. Democracy is about majority rule, not minority.

In today’s standards with the brain dead libs it would be considered mob rule!

dongreen76

1ProudAmerican wrote:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/faithless-... (show quote)

No it hasn't;its always been that way.The p**********l e*****riates have never been required officially to cast their b****ts as the popular v**ed has mandated.The appeals court simply has made it official that they don't have to,negating certain enforcement procedures they do in order to ensure that they v**e the way the popular v**e wants them to.
That is not nesscesarily an asset as oppose to being a liabilitious for Trump,It depends on how the e*****riate feels about that specific candidate.Judging how the average person felt of trump, in 2016 ,especially taking into account that he lost the popular v**e, I would ascertain that the e*****riate in certain states would have decided against him-but-was forced to v**e as the popular v**e mandated due to those aforemention enforcement processes they have to in-sure
that the e*****riates v**e as they are expected to v**e.
The greater concern is that this will negate the whole Democratic process, therefore is it not constituional.This thwarts the will of the people.The popular v**e prevailing is in it self - A DEMOCRACY

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Tug484 wrote:

Ninth circuit?

No, the 10th Circuit, out of Denver.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

EmilyD wrote:

We are a Republic, Pete. Always have been...always will be.

Republic: A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

Well...not quite, Emily.

http://volokh.com/2013/10/28/democracy-republic-mutually-exclusive-terms/

JimMe

woodguru wrote:

That was the purpose of the e*******l college, to act as a foil to bad choices. But you apparently believe that a state's e*******l should all go to the popular v**e and disregard the population that didn't v**e for them? Let the e*******l be split according to popular v**e, the GOP is dead because they are controlling states with minority GOP v**ers. Democracy is about majority rule, not minority.

woodguru... I have been looking to have an Amendment that has each P**********l/Vice-P**********l E*****rate having to cast their v**e as the Plurality/Majority winner their District...

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

1ProudAmerican wrote:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/faithless-... (show quote)

I thought the members of the e*******l college were already free to v**e differently from the winner of the popular v**e.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

PeterS wrote:

Then you have no problem with e*****rs having the ... (show quote)

Name a democracy in power today.

JediKnight

1ProudAmerican wrote:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/faithless-... (show quote)

By doing this, Trump has now pretty much made "individual v****g" a fluke. So much for "one person, one v**e." sad.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

dongreen76 wrote:

No it hasn't;its always been that way.The p*******... (show quote)

I'm hearing Google swayed the e******n the hag's way by as little as 3 million v**es and as much as 10 million. Betcha someone pisses in Google's cornflakes this time around...and I bet there's a lot less c***ting in Democrat strongholds because someone will be waiting to prosecute them for it.

I'm hearing JW is successfully suing to have v**er roles cleaned up.

V**er ID is on the way. I******s v****g will be stopped. Last e******n set the stage for this one.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

nwtk2007 wrote:

I thought the members of the e*******l college were already free to v**e differently from the winner of the popular v**e.

I believe they always have been. But, as a result, the party/state has always had the prerogative to cancel their v**e.