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Aug 31, 2019 06:00:29   #
JoyV
 
JediKnight wrote:
It sounds like you agree with me that the EC is useless and therefore should be abolished. Thank you!


I don't know how you came to that conclusion. On the contrary, I think the EC is essential in retaining our Republic!!!! While not perfect, I think it is a very good system and can not think of a better one. It ensures the citizens in each state get a fair chance at selecting our president!

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Aug 31, 2019 08:00:02   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JoyV wrote:
Are you certain what you read was the actual report and not some media summary? I see no ten iten list. In Mueller's report volume II are a list of FOUR categories identified by Roman numerals I through IV. Each are subdivided by letters which also do not number ten. Under Roman numeral II (which is the one which covers evidence of motive to obstruct) are letters A through L.
>Letter A amounts to a timeline of events.
>Letter B is all about Trump's conduct regarding Flynn. Such things as Trump speaking of his admiration of Flynn. Trump's feelings and conduct can in no way obstruct the investigation.
>Letter C is Trump's reaction to the accusation he colluded with Russia. Mueller finds the fact that Trump denied the charges suspicious and considers it a motive to obstruct, but not actually obstruction. He lists Trump's anger over Sessions recusing himself as evidence Trump had motive to obstruct. His next motive he lists is Comey's confirmation that the Steele document exists. The next is Trump asking the intelligence community leaders to go public with the fact that they had nothing connecting him to Russian collusion. Again, this is not obstruction as he asked them to tell the t***h about what they knew. How could asking officials to publicly tell the t***h be collusion. And finally Meuller listed Trump's request of Comey to "lift the cloud" over the investigation. In other words be t***sparent. How is that obstruction?
>Letter D is about Comey's firing. Now even if Trump had no concrete reason to fire Comey (and in the report concrete reasons are listed), since Comey was not heading the investigation how couldfiring him obstruct the investigation.
>Letter E is about Trump's reaction to who was appointed special counsel. He lists Trump's claim that Mueller had a conflict of interest as evidence of a motive to obstruct. Of course the fact that Meuller DID have a conflict of interest is not included. Meuller also lists the press reporting there was an obstruction investigation. Now even if the fact this information was made public could obstruct the investigation, it was done by the press NOT by Trump! And while the list says Trump directed White House counsel to have Mueller removed, when you read the portion of the report under that heading you find that Trump did NOT order or direct Mueller be removed but rather ordered McGhan to inform Rosenstein that Mueller had a conflict of interest.
>Letter F is about Trump's responses to Session's recusal and his asking Sessions to go public with how unfairly Trump is being treated. So even if Sessions had made such a public announcement, it would not have impeded the investigation. Then Trump publicly criticized Sessions for abdicating his responsibility [Not only did Sessions recuse himself but he did nothing to see that the investigation would be carried out by acknowleged Trump h**ers.] The report goes on to Trump firing Sessions after it was revealed that during the campaign Sessions revealed campaign information to the Russian ambassador. So firing Sessions for cause is considered evidence of motive. And finally Mueller includes Trump questioning why Hillary isn't being investigated as well.
>Letter G regards Trump's reaction to disclosure of personal emails regarding the Trump Tower meeting for the purpose of opposition research. Which by the way never actually touched on opposition research but rather on Russian adoptions. Meuller implied Trump not wanting personal emails to be made public could be obstruction but the information on the meeting and what t***spired was already public so how could preventing personal emails obstruct the investigation?
>Letter H rehashes the recusal of Sessions and Trump's reaction.
>Letter I is about Trump's reaction to the media story which claimed Trump ordered McGhan to fire Mueller. His reaction was to ask McGhan to tell the t***h that he never gave him such an order. Earlier in the report this fact is confirmed that Trump asked McGhan to inform Rosenstein that Mueller had a conflict of interest, NOT that he ordered McGhan to fire Mueller (which McGhan didn't have the authority to do anyway!)
>Letter J is about Trump's conduct regarding Flynn and Manafort. How can Trump saying positive things about Flynn or Manafort in any way obstruct the investigation?
>Letter K is about Trump's conduct regarding Cohen. Again, how can his conduct, whethe positive or negative obstruct the investigation?
>And finally Letter L is a brief analysis of A through K.

Can you supply the quote where Mueller said there were other crime he could not prove because Trump's people refused to testify?

As for the poor people you mentioned, since when has Hillary done anything, or even offered to do anything, to help poor w****s? As for Republicans not wanting Hillary to help minorities, again, what has Hillary ever done to help minorities? As a minority, I can say that the opportunity to get ahead by the availability of good paying jobs both does more and is also preferable than handouts to partially compensate for a stagnant jobs market. And there are far more Republicans who dip into their own pockets voluntarity to help those in need, or give a job to those down on their luck.

The evidence destroyed was evidence under subpeona by the FBI!!! The only way Republicans would see such evidence would be if it were leaked or if Hillary went to trial and it was included in the exhibits.

The reason why the others involved in the decision of the sale of uranium are not being focused on by we Constitutionalists is because it was the State Department who had the definitive decision. The State Department could override all others involved.
Are you certain what you read was the actual repor... (show quote)


That was a lot of work, and I am so glad that you took the time to do it.
Marvelous summary of the Mueller report.

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Aug 31, 2019 11:46:40   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Good photoshop, and if cousin Vlad is calling the shots here in America I think that he's doing a great job.
You lefties should hire him to win your e******n. You've seen the man do it, from far away and less than 100 grand spent.


At a time, not so long ago, we p***ed ourselves on being "united" as Americans. We have now opted to go with anything to 'win' and to hell with the costs of that winning in regards to our fellow countrymen or the country as a whole. We will get in bed with any nefarious entity that will further our personal or party gains -and then even brag about our corruption as if its cool or something. We are currently assisting our enemies in tearing our own country apart. That my friend is truly, truly sad.

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Aug 31, 2019 11:53:22   #
JediKnight
 
As our republican friends have opted to spin and whitewash Trump's corruption and call everything contrary to Trump 'f**e news' - it is pointless to debate with you over what Trump's crimes are. Your long dissertation only goes to prove that you will spin any point, any fact, any evidence to fit your narrative - despite what our own bi-partisan intelligence agencies conclude.

The truly sad thing in all this is: at one time, not long ago, we p***ed ourselves on our 'unity' even if we were in different political parties. Now, we have opted for the "win at any cost" mantra of the very governments we deem nefarious. To add to this calamity, many people, such as you Joy, will go to great lengths to 'make such anti-American corruption and conduct' to be "A-Okay" - as long as its your party benefitting from the corruption. Because you were a living, functioning and intelligent adult BEFORE

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Aug 31, 2019 11:55:08   #
JediKnight
 
Trump came along - it is apparent that you have bought into the very corruption he peddles. I have determined that you are simply one of the "lost" and therefore all logic is lost on you. That is your choice, which I respect, but I will never agree with you because I know better....and something tells me that inside, so do you.

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Sep 1, 2019 19:05:39   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JediKnight wrote:
Trump came along - it is apparent that you have bought into the very corruption he peddles. I have determined that you are simply one of the "lost" and therefore all logic is lost on you. That is your choice, which I respect, but I will never agree with you because I know better....and something tells me that inside, so do you.


Trump wins and I am lost?
Trump is the best president in modern history, maybe in all of history.

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Sep 3, 2019 10:48:23   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Trump wins and I am lost?
Trump is the best president in modern history, maybe in all of history.


Well, you are entitled to believe that if you choose too. I, on the other hand, believe just the opposite. Not even considering the r****t presidents who owned s***es, I am convinced that hands down, Trump is the absolute worse f**e president ever. His sheer lack of character, his deliberate flaws, and his r****t rhetoric make him the least likely to be remembered positively of all presidents. period.



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Sep 3, 2019 11:49:31   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JediKnight wrote:
Well, you are entitled to believe that if you choose too. I, on the other hand, believe just the opposite. Not even considering the r****t presidents who owned s***es, I am convinced that hands down, Trump is the absolute worse f**e president ever. His sheer lack of character, his deliberate flaws, and his r****t rhetoric make him the least likely to be remembered positively of all presidents. period.


Lack of character?
Any other man would have withered and resigned the presidency under such constant, vicious, treasonous attacks on every aspect of his life and his wide circle of friends. Just that determination to save America is character enough to be the greatest president in history.
Trump is saving America from the international left who has penetrated Washington DC and operates as the Deep State.

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Sep 3, 2019 13:48:02   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Lack of character?
Any other man would have withered and resigned the presidency under such constant, vicious, treasonous attacks on every aspect of his life and his wide circle of friends. Just that determination to save America is character enough to be the greatest president in history.
Trump is saving America from the international left who has penetrated Washington DC and operates as the Deep State.


Its obvious you don't know about many of the things Obama endured while president. I have yet to hear about people 'h*****g dummies of Trump in effigy' on the WH lawn. The 'character' I'm speaking about is Trump's lack of personal character - intestinal fortitude.

A man that has c***ted on each wife with the succeeding wife is a man of no character.
A man that commits adultery with porn stars and playboy bunnies while claiming to be Christian is a man of no character.
A man that uses campaign funds to 'pay off' his sex partners is a man of no character.
A man that openly discriminates against others because they don't look like him is a man of no character.
A man that deliberately spreads lies and falsehoods to garner support for r****t and d******e policies is a man of no character.
A man that deliberately stiffs his contractors and sues them to delay paying is a man of no character.
A man that employs i*****l a***ns while doing his utmost to discriminate against them is a hypocrite -and a man of no character.
A man who defies all of our intelligence agencies, DOJ, FBI, and common sense to side with notorious dictators -unless those agencies are supporting his narrative - is a man of no character.
A man who would deny our own territories aide during a crisis because they have brown skin is a man of no character.
A man who would deliberately turn Americans against Americans is a man of no character.
A man who would bilk the treasury for personal gain such as golfing trips and violation of the Emoluments Clause is a man of no character.
A man who would pardon r****t criminals simply to annoy political opponents is a man of no character.
A man who would claim to believe in God and be a "Christian" while denying every fundamental Christian belief is a fool, and a man of no character.

I could go on and on, but you should get my point.



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Sep 3, 2019 14:50:14   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JediKnight wrote:
Its obvious you don't know about many of the things Obama endured while president. I have yet to hear about people 'h*****g dummies of Trump in effigy' on the WH lawn. The 'character' I'm speaking about is Trump's lack of personal character - intestinal fortitude.

A man that has c***ted on each wife with the succeeding wife is a man of no character.
A man that commits adultery with porn stars and playboy bunnies while claiming to be Christian is a man of no character.
A man that uses campaign funds to 'pay off' his sex partners is a man of no character.
A man that openly discriminates against others because they don't look like him is a man of no character.
A man that deliberately spreads lies and falsehoods to garner support for r****t and d******e policies is a man of no character.
A man that deliberately stiffs his contractors and sues them to delay paying is a man of no character.
A man that employs i*****l a***ns while doing his utmost to discriminate against them is a hypocrite -and a man of no character.
A man who defies all of our intelligence agencies, DOJ, FBI, and common sense to side with notorious dictators -unless those agencies are supporting his narrative - is a man of no character.
A man who would deny our own territories aide during a crisis because they have brown skin is a man of no character.
A man who would deliberately turn Americans against Americans is a man of no character.
A man who would bilk the treasury for personal gain such as golfing trips and violation of the Emoluments Clause is a man of no character.
A man who would pardon r****t criminals simply to annoy political opponents is a man of no character.
A man who would claim to believe in God and be a "Christian" while denying every fundamental Christian belief is a fool, and a man of no character.

I could go on and on, but you should get my point.
Its obvious you don't know about many of the thing... (show quote)

You are applying haughty morality to false violations of Trump's past, which is your only weapon, other than the overworked r****t accusations.
Trump is the best president in modern history, maybe in all of history. Why? Because he's saving America from socialism and the assimilation into the borderless one government world planned by the international left.

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Sep 3, 2019 16:01:44   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
You are applying haughty morality to false violations of Trump's past, which is your only weapon, other than the overworked r****t accusations.
Trump is the best president in modern history, maybe in all of history. Why? Because he's saving America from socialism and the assimilation into the borderless one government world planned by the international left.


I may have mentioned this to you before, if not, here you go:

If you are receiving, or plan to receive Social Security or Medicare you are benefitting from a "socialist" government benefit. Trump is not saving America from anything. The laws we have are in fact "the will of the people" and if you are unhappy with them, you should work "legally" to change them. Supporting a totally inept, unqualified, treasonous, imbecile does not make him a 'good president' - and he will never be considered the "greatest of all time" by any standard. But, you are free to waste your time and energy as you see fit, just remember that I have the same option. What's good for the goose is often good for the gander. Add this photo to your "I love me some Trump" wall -here you go.....no charge!



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Sep 3, 2019 16:40:08   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JediKnight wrote:
I may have mentioned this to you before, if not, here you go:

If you are receiving, or plan to receive Social Security or Medicare you are benefitting from a "socialist" government benefit. Trump is not saving America from anything. The laws we have are in fact "the will of the people" and if you are unhappy with them, you should work "legally" to change them. Supporting a totally inept, unqualified, treasonous, imbecile does not make him a 'good president' - and he will never be considered the "greatest of all time" by any standard. But, you are free to waste your time and energy as you see fit, just remember that I have the same option. What's good for the goose is often good for the gander. Add this photo to your "I love me some Trump" wall -here you go.....no charge!
I may have mentioned this to you before, if not, h... (show quote)

More credible if they photoshopped Obama's mug on the black guy and put a towel on the head of an Arab.

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Sep 3, 2019 16:58:13   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
More credible if they photoshopped Obama's mug on the black guy and put a towel on the head of an Arab.


it seems that you guys are still so obsessed with Obama.....so much so, that even Master Yoda had to make a comment.....



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Sep 3, 2019 18:19:56   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JediKnight wrote:
it seems that you guys are still so obsessed with Obama.....so much so, that even Master Yoda had to make a comment.....


Obama is still the titular head of the c**p.
Sumbish got to be arrested.

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Sep 4, 2019 11:11:36   #
JediKnight
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Obama is still the titular head of the c**p.
Sumbish got to be arrested.


I've often heard it said; "ignorance is bliss." Mikey you are living proof of that quote. sad. Look at the last screen shot below.



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