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Aug 17, 2019 15:33:59   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Lonewolf wrote:
The only thing you got right is when you said our president and not referring to the 70% of Americans who h**e him


AMEN BLUE WAVE IN NOV. OF 2020

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Aug 17, 2019 15:35:22   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Lonewolf wrote:
The only thing you got right is when you said our president and not referring to the 70% of Americans who h**e him


I thought you people supposed to be tolerant left.....Doesn't sound to me like you are tolerant at all...Sounds to me like you and your party is full of h**e!!!

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Aug 17, 2019 15:55:33   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Why the repost?


So people that haven't seen it before can see it now, or maybe to drive it home a little more for those too blind to see!

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Aug 17, 2019 16:02:30   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Kevyn wrote:
It is funny to see the false bravado from the cold dead fingers crowd of man boys. The t***h of the matter is that the vast majority would say yes sir they are over there in the closet when the police come with a warrant for their AK-47 or AR-15. The government already knows who has them and might cause problems from monitoring sites like this. The hand full of nuts who decide to become felons for the privilege of keeping high capacity magazines will be arrested and never be allowed to own a firearm again. Those who threaten a civil war will go the route of David Koresh or LaVoy Finicum, reduced to smoldering grease stains. Even a small town police department has more than the equipment and manpower needed to handle these clowns and they have unlimited reinforcements from the state and federal government.
It is funny to see the false bravado from the cold... (show quote)


In Connecticut the "assault rifle ban" has around 5% compliance in a state with extreme gun control laws. In NM, a solidly blue state, more than half the sheriffs have refused to enforce Santa Fe's new, draconian gun laws.
Kevyn, you must live in a place where people pee their pants at the mention of AUTHORITY. How about in Philadelphia when people mocked the police while they were being shot at?
One more thing for your condescending ignorance to ponder; how do you propose to get around the Constitutional prohibition against ex post facto law?

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Aug 17, 2019 16:02:48   #
waltmoreno
 
maximus wrote:
What does anyone need with a Lexus or a BMW when there are Fords and Chevy's? When Obama and Clinton said they would outlaw assault weapons, I bought an AR-15 THAT day. My brother and I shot a tree down with it, but it has never been fired towards a person. What is wrong with me having it? It's legal.

Here's a post from another thread about gun control, this one by Jakebrake;

Interesting statistics!
This jives with the research of Prof. Lott at the University of Chicago, who is a noted expert on gun laws and stats.

Here are some facts.

There are 30,000 gun related death s per year by firearms; this number is not disputed. The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws.
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified.
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence.
3% are accidental discharge deaths.

So technically, “gun violence” is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.
480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So, if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assaults are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).

Now it gets good:
200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So, what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.).

A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ……………. Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions! So, you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns?

It’s pretty simple:
Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs . So, the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed.”

Just look at ONE point made in this report. 25% of gun crime happens in just 4 cities and these 4 cities have the most stringent gun laws! Now, if that doesn't plainly say that gun control doesn't work, I don't know what does.
What does anyone need with a Lexus or a BMW when t... (show quote)


Wow! Wow! Wow! This should be mandatory reading for all those loony, lib, gun grabbing lawmakers. Not that it would change their v**es but gun rights advocates could demand answers to questions based on this post.
John Lott is likely the most knowledgeable authority on gun laws in the country. I’ve read several of his books.
I’m saving this article for future reference whenever I’m arguing with another nutty gun grabber.

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Aug 17, 2019 16:44:10   #
dongreen76
 
coelacanth wrote:
An armed citizenry will never be unwillingly forced into railroad boxcars at gunpoint.


Spoken like a true Revolutionary,and couist

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Aug 17, 2019 17:06:08   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Kevyn wrote:
Doubtful, you will turn in your little security blankets like a good boy, with your tail between your legs to the first cop who knocks on your door. It is easy to tell the blowhards, they post nonsense like you did.


Its easy to recognize the wussies like you who would give up your kid if the govt told you to. That is if the kid hadn’t already run off.

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Aug 17, 2019 17:32:31   #
dongreen76
 
proud republican wrote:
I thought you people supposed to be tolerant left.....Doesn't sound to me like you are tolerant at all...Sounds to me like you and your party is full of h**e!!!


Very simple (Proud Incurry)you are confused of which is left and which is right.what is right is that which adheres to what ever excepted denoted an approved consensus has estabished- in this case the consensus is a majority of the citizenry-and it has spoken through -and established a document known as the Constitution . You self pro-claimed RIGHTIST,seem to think right is your right.Right is not your right,but right is absolution,or definativness or omnipotence and omniscience (GOD) if you are an immortalist,and if you are a mortalist,then right is a solution, so far as solving, answering or correcting adverse situations.

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Aug 17, 2019 17:54:03   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
It is funny to see the false bravado from the cold dead fingers crowd of man boys. The t***h of the matter is that the vast majority would say yes sir they are over there in the closet when the police come with a warrant for their AK-47 or AR-15. The government already knows who has them and might cause problems from monitoring sites like this. The hand full of nuts who decide to become felons for the privilege of keeping high capacity magazines will be arrested and never be allowed to own a firearm again. Those who threaten a civil war will go the route of David Koresh or LaVoy Finicum, reduced to smoldering grease stains. Even a small town police department has more than the equipment and manpower needed to handle these clowns and they have unlimited reinforcements from the state and federal government.
It is funny to see the false bravado from the cold... (show quote)


Kevyn wrote:
You may be on to something, most of the mass shooters an people who buy “bad ass” looking assault weapons are insecure about their masculinity and use them to make up for impotence or tiny willies. So rather than banning the things make it a felony to own one that doesn't look like this and make it a law that anyone carrying or using one wear a tutu. The guys who by them as manhood props would then turn to buying giant pick up trucks! And the hand full of ranchers and farmers who use them to shoot coyotes or feral boars would just look a bit silly in the process.
You may be on to something, most of the mass shoot... (show quote)


Kevyn wrote:
Doubtful, you will turn in your little security blankets like a good boy, with your tail between your legs to the first cop who knocks on your door. It is easy to tell the blowhards, they post nonsense like you did.
You have the brains of a freeze dried peanut.

Seriously, dude, do you actually believe that a nationwide gun confiscation is possible?

Tell you what, you come up with the plan, lay it all out, tell us how this would go down, leave nothing out.

And, I'll blow more holes in it than a screen door.

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Aug 17, 2019 19:03:48   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You have the brains of a freeze dried peanut.

Seriously, dude, do you actually believe that a nationwide gun confiscation is possible?

Tell you what, you come up with the plan, lay it all out, tell us how this would go down, leave nothing out.

And, I'll blow more holes in it than a screen door.


what will happen is they will stop making the AK47 AND AR15 and then stop selling bullets for them and when you get a speeding ticket and have your gun one bye one they will disappear the smart few will hide them and make there own bullets but in time they will run out of casings

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Aug 17, 2019 19:26:33   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
Sen Gillibrand said she will prosecute Americans who will refuse to participate in Assault guns buy back program

http://dennismichaellynch.com/report-2020-candidate-would-prosecute-gun-owners-who-dont-give-arms-to-feds/

Will you voluntarily give up your guns???


It won't go that far, assault rifle bans will follow the way they have been done, the ones that are out there are it, no more new ones for sale. A total ban loses too many moderates and progressives on both sides

Better get on the side of supporting sensible levels of mental health, background checks, and wait periods though, the more it's resisted the harsher the fallout will be. 3/4ths of americans support moderate levels of gun control. Sensible controls will make a difference, won't end it but making a difference is something.

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Aug 17, 2019 19:28:10   #
woodguru
 
jimpack123 wrote:
what will happen is they will stop making the AK47 AND AR15 and then stop selling bullets for them and when you get a speeding ticket and have your gun one bye one they will disappear the smart few will hide them and make there own bullets but in time they will run out of casings


There are so many hundreds of millions of rounds of .223 out there and millions of ARs

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Aug 17, 2019 19:30:12   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
proud republican wrote:
Sen Gillibrand said she will prosecute Americans who will refuse to participate in Assault guns buy back program

http://dennismichaellynch.com/report-2020-candidate-would-prosecute-gun-owners-who-dont-give-arms-to-feds/

Will you voluntarily give up your guns???

Send her personally!!!!!

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Aug 17, 2019 19:30:49   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
proud republican wrote:
I dont think we have to worry about Gillibrand,but we DO have to worry about Kamala Harris who thinks the same as Gillibrand,but who has a better chance of trying to defeat our President...


Not gonna happen!!

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Aug 17, 2019 19:32:08   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Have faith sistah! God will not be mocked! Our prez won the first time against all odds! Prayer is our weapon, arm yourselves!!!

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