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Aug 19, 2019 01:01:12   #
waltmoreno
 
Navigator wrote:
I can tell you as well do not live in NY, so let me explain how this was done and is happening here in NY. First, laws were passed making AR-15s and similar (Semi-auto versions of AK-47s, SKSs, etc.) guns and accessories illegal, but if you already had them, you could keep them if you registered them (you can not, however sell it, gift it or pass it on after you die). One year later, it became a felony to possess all such weapons that had not been registered. If you are found in possession of such an unregistered weapon (police searching your house following a burglary, your wife/girlfriend/enemy turning you in, being stupid enough to bring one to a public shooting range, etc.) you are arrested and charged with a felony and the weapon is confiscated. If convicted of this felony, ALL of your weapons are confiscated. Many law-abiding residents of NY did register these guns so when the Democrat Assembly and Democrat Senate pass and the Democrat governor signs a law making these guns illegal whether registered or not, the police have a relatively easy task lifting the telephone and telling those who registered their guns they are in possession of illegal weapons and must turn them in to the nearest police station. Tens of thousands of NY citizens DID NOT register these guns so we now have tens of thousands of new felons in NY. Shouting from the rooftops a law is unconstitutional does not make it so and, so far, these laws in NY have NOT been found unconstitutional.
I can tell you as well do not live in NY, so let m... (show quote)


Thanks Navigator for letting us know how it’s done in NY.
Here’s how they do it in Cali. First they passed a law declaring all older AR-15s illegal unless it had been registered. Because of that law, which I had been unaware of, I learned I was a felon cuz I had an older AR-15.
So to be a law abiding citizen I purchased a brand new fully legal AR-15. Lo and behold, shortly thereafter I learned that even the newer AR-15s have to now be registered, or possessing them would constitute a felony. And registration could only be done online. So I repeatedly tried to register before the deadline, but the site kept crashing. I’m no computer whiz so I thought I was just doing something wrong. Anyway the deadline came and went and my AR-15 didn’t get registered.
Then I learn that there’s been a class action filed by AR-15 owners in Cali complaining that almost NOBODY could register their guns online because the site didn’t work - and that it had been deliberately designed to fail.
I don’t know where the lawsuit is now, or how many felons there are in Cali for owning “illegal” AR-15s but likely a lot. I hope the court throws out the latest registration requirement. It’s really the only fair outcome of this lawsuit.

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Aug 19, 2019 02:26:57   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Navigator wrote:
I can tell you as well do not live in NY, so let me explain how this was done and is happening here in NY. First, laws were passed making AR-15s and similar (Semi-auto versions of AK-47s, SKSs, etc.) guns and accessories illegal, but if you already had them, you could keep them if you registered them (you can not, however sell it, gift it or pass it on after you die). One year later, it became a felony to possess all such weapons that had not been registered. If you are found in possession of such an unregistered weapon (police searching your house following a burglary, your wife/girlfriend/enemy turning you in, being stupid enough to bring one to a public shooting range, etc.) you are arrested and charged with a felony and the weapon is confiscated. If convicted of this felony, ALL of your weapons are confiscated. Many law-abiding residents of NY did register these guns so when the Democrat Assembly and Democrat Senate pass and the Democrat governor signs a law making these guns illegal whether registered or not, the police have a relatively easy task lifting the telephone and telling those who registered their guns they are in possession of illegal weapons and must turn them in to the nearest police station. Tens of thousands of NY citizens DID NOT register these guns so we now have tens of thousands of new felons in NY. Shouting from the rooftops a law is unconstitutional does not make it so and, so far, these laws in NY have NOT been found unconstitutional.
I can tell you as well do not live in NY, so let m... (show quote)
Can't help you there, bro, if the people of New York are going to continually v**e for tyranny then they will have to face the consequences.

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Aug 19, 2019 08:35:44   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Navigator wrote:
I can tell you as well do not live in NY, so let me explain how this was done and is happening here in NY. First, laws were passed making AR-15s and similar (Semi-auto versions of AK-47s, SKSs, etc.) guns and accessories illegal, but if you already had them, you could keep them if you registered them (you can not, however sell it, gift it or pass it on after you die). One year later, it became a felony to possess all such weapons that had not been registered. If you are found in possession of such an unregistered weapon (police searching your house following a burglary, your wife/girlfriend/enemy turning you in, being stupid enough to bring one to a public shooting range, etc.) you are arrested and charged with a felony and the weapon is confiscated. If convicted of this felony, ALL of your weapons are confiscated. Many law-abiding residents of NY did register these guns so when the Democrat Assembly and Democrat Senate pass and the Democrat governor signs a law making these guns illegal whether registered or not, the police have a relatively easy task lifting the telephone and telling those who registered their guns they are in possession of illegal weapons and must turn them in to the nearest police station. Tens of thousands of NY citizens DID NOT register these guns so we now have tens of thousands of new felons in NY. Shouting from the rooftops a law is unconstitutional does not make it so and, so far, these laws in NY have NOT been found unconstitutional.
I can tell you as well do not live in NY, so let m... (show quote)

Yeah, as if The Second Amendment refers to musket loaders only.
Safety is never the issue with gun restrictions, it's all about taking my guns so that government will be the only ones who have guns. Then I will obey or die.

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Aug 19, 2019 19:40:30   #
Navigator
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
I watched a summary yesterday on it, they were saying Biden will drop out, and Warren will be the choice. Hope not, but the dem’s are going to do it dirty, and get the v**es by rigging it. Heard Google was behind it. Hope it isn’t true.
If we lose, we can kiss our country goodby!


It's all true but, at this point, these are all intentions that can be thwarted if enough people remain alert and communicative.

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Aug 19, 2019 19:44:05   #
Navigator
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Can't help you there, bro, if the people of New York are going to continually v**e for tyranny then they will have to face the consequences.


I wish you were able to but there is no hope for us when the New York City Metro area contains 60% of the population of the state and v***r r**********n there is 85% Democrat.

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Aug 19, 2019 19:55:39   #
Navigator
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Thanks Navigator for letting us know how it’s done in NY.
Here’s how they do it in Cali. First they passed a law declaring all older AR-15s illegal unless it had been registered. Because of that law, which I had been unaware of, I learned I was a felon cuz I had an older AR-15.
So to be a law abiding citizen I purchased a brand new fully legal AR-15. Lo and behold, shortly thereafter I learned that even the newer AR-15s have to now be registered, or possessing them would constitute a felony. And registration could only be done online. So I repeatedly tried to register before the deadline, but the site kept crashing. I’m no computer whiz so I thought I was just doing something wrong. Anyway the deadline came and went and my AR-15 didn’t get registered.
Then I learn that there’s been a class action filed by AR-15 owners in Cali complaining that almost NOBODY could register their guns online because the site didn’t work - and that it had been deliberately designed to fail.
I don’t know where the lawsuit is now, or how many felons there are in Cali for owning “illegal” AR-15s but likely a lot. I hope the court throws out the latest registration requirement. It’s really the only fair outcome of this lawsuit.
Thanks Navigator for letting us know how it’s done... (show quote)


A sad story but maybe there is hope. A handful of very blue, very stupid states may v**e to give ALL their e*******l v**es to the winner of the national popular v**e for President. This means every Trump v**e in NY, NJ, Hawaii, CT, Mass, etc. will be added into the national popular v**e and if Trump has one national v**e more than the Democrat, ALL the e*******l v**es of each of those blue states (a majority of whose citizens will NOT have v**ed for Trump) will go to Trump, giving him an e*******l v**e landslide. Yes, I must be dreaming; no states could be that stupid, or can they?

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Aug 20, 2019 10:11:33   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I think you need to look at just what the 2nd amendment says.
It provides for state m*****as members carrying arms.

So I would say that any one not belonging to a military m*****a has no individual right to carry arms.
So I say one had better read the small print.
If the NRA wishes to still have a place in this nation they had better get it right.


In 1778 a m*****a was we the people. The only military wore RED COAT'S.

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