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Jul 24, 2019 11:16:02   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Seth wrote:
A comet bearing down on us would very likely not be anthropogenic , smartass.

However, that doesn't mean that c*****e c****e is.

There has been no conclusive evidence of man's activities affecting the global climate, only "conclusions" that ignore the fact that Earth has endured a plethora of volcanic, diastrophic, solar and extraterrestrial batterings (meteors, etc) and the planet has seen numerous extreme temperature changes in its long history, most of them long before man ever built a spontaneous combustion engine, recovered any petroleum or ran a factory.

Suddenly, climate conditions that are exponentially milder than a great many in the past, that actually created massive changes in life forms and terrain, are man-made?

Sorry, guy, but you've been suckered by a purely politics based h**x.

For some reason, I'm reminded of a Peanuts strip where Charlie Brown, reading, tells Linus that "It says here that the first steamship crossed the Atlantic in 1819," to which Linus asks, "Were there people then?"
A comet bearing down on us would very likely not b... (show quote)



Gosh, you guys will go to any lengths to insist CC is not real and mankind has nothing to do with it..

All your sputtering and snarling will not change a thing..

Coal is not coming back..


https://www.edf.org/climate/9-ways-we-know-humans-triggered-c*****e-c****e

https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/science/human-contribution-to-gw-faq.html

https://skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-global-warming.htm

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Jul 24, 2019 11:20:30   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
vernon wrote:
I notice that you guys never speak about the sun. Now tell me what you think we need to do to save our planet.What politician do you think is qualified to correct the problem? I know what the politicians are saying.They want to tax the hell out of us and k**l all our jobs and when its over they will claim they did something for us but in reality it will only have helped them with more power and wealth.


At present time, the sun is in a waning period, so we may be cooler then if the sun was at average temperature..

Shipment of wind generator parts in the port of Dulth.
Shipment of wind generator parts in the port of Du...

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Jul 24, 2019 11:24:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
youngwilliam wrote:
And you are arrogant enough to think that man has any control over what happens to this earth? Exactly what are you going to do to save us petey bird. One volcano eruption spews mega tons, way more than all of mans production. BTW, plants love CO2.



Why do you even bother to hang on to old claims, long ago proven to be wrong?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-volcanoes-or-humans/

Dear EarthTalk: Could it really be true that a single large volcanic eruption launches more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the amount generated by all of humanity over history?
-- Steve Schlemmer, London, England

This argument that human-caused carbon emissions are merely a drop in the bucket compared to greenhouse gases generated by volcanoes has been making its way around the rumor mill for years. And while it may sound plausible, the science just doesn’t back it up.

According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the world’s volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually, while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide. Despite the arguments to the contrary, the facts speak for themselves: Greenhouse gas emissions from volcanoes comprise less than one percent of those generated by today’s human endeavors.

And plants do need CO2, it is called the balance of nature and is being overpowered by the excess CO2 produced by f****l f**ls..

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Jul 24, 2019 11:28:18   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
maximus wrote:
Are you saying that throwing a bunch of taxes at the problem will make the earth cooler? Can you show where any program has had any effect on the warming cycle?



Only you guys have mentioned taxes..

and you know the orange criminal does not pay taxes, so why should you worry?



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Jul 24, 2019 12:24:58   #
Seth
 
permafrost wrote:
Gosh, you guys will go to any lengths to insist CC is not real and mankind has nothing to do with it..

All your sputtering and snarling will not change a thing..

Coal is not coming back..


https://www.edf.org/climate/9-ways-we-know-humans-triggered-c*****e-c****e

https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/science/human-contribution-to-gw-faq.html

https://skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-global-warming.htm


We do not "sputter and snarl," we merely correct the record for the information challenged.

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Jul 24, 2019 12:44:35   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Seth wrote:
We do not "sputter and snarl," we merely correct the record for the information challenged.



You correct nothing. You only refuse to accept the facts..



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Jul 24, 2019 12:50:54   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
permafrost wrote:
Only you guys have mentioned taxes..

and you know the orange criminal does not pay taxes, so why should you worry?


Doesn’t get a salary either! Bezos doesn’t pay taxes and is trillion dollar company! Even got away with not paying much in postage!

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Jul 24, 2019 13:03:30   #
Seth
 
permafrost wrote:
You correct nothing. You only refuse to accept the facts..


Sure, if "the facts" conform to an agenda of giving Big Government the authority to tax us into oblivion, control every last facet of our lives, run millions of jobs out of the country and then hand over the reins to a new Global Authority.

No, thanks.

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Jul 24, 2019 13:04:45   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
permafrost wrote:
Why do you even bother to hang on to old claims, long ago proven to be wrong?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-volcanoes-or-humans/

Dear EarthTalk: Could it really be true that a single large volcanic eruption launches more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the amount generated by all of humanity over history?
-- Steve Schlemmer, London, England

This argument that human-caused carbon emissions are merely a drop in the bucket compared to greenhouse gases generated by volcanoes has been making its way around the rumor mill for years. And while it may sound plausible, the science just doesn’t back it up.

According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the world’s volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually, while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide. Despite the arguments to the contrary, the facts speak for themselves: Greenhouse gas emissions from volcanoes comprise less than one percent of those generated by today’s human endeavors.

And plants do need CO2, it is called the balance of nature and is being overpowered by the excess CO2 produced by f****l f**ls..
Why do you even bother to hang on to old claims, l... (show quote)


Looks like humans contributions to CO2 is quite small compared to natural sources.

https://skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-than-natural-emissions.htm

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Jul 24, 2019 13:05:46   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
permafrost wrote:
Only you guys have mentioned taxes..

and you know the orange criminal does not pay taxes, so why should you worry?


In 2005 he paid 38 million dollars in taxes...Rachael Madcow showed his tax return on national TV so it's a fact...$38,000,000. The "orange criminal" also takes NO money for his service to the country.

I mentioned taxes because the liberal/democrat answer to CC is taxes. Is CC a h**x? No, the earth is getting warmer for sure. The question is did mankind cause it. It's starting to look like only the scientists to say so are the ones getting paid to do so, or those getting grants for it. Many other well known scientists say that this is just the weather of the earth.
Have you considered countries like China and India? These countries are rising up in the world and they need energy to do it. If you take it away, you send them back from 2 meals a day to starvation, from a second world country to a third world country.
While the earth is warming, the record for the warmest year was 1938, according to NASA.

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Jul 24, 2019 13:13:05   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
PeterS wrote:
...If we screw it up...






Only we screw it up? How about that?

You want disruptions? The solutions that you and your Squad propose, will relegate us to a near pre-industrial existence. That would generate such dissatisfaction that violent upheavals would make WWII look like a school yard rumble.

During the 1950s, we had several blistering hot summers in a row in NYC. That led climate alarmists to predict palm trees in Philadelphia.

In the 1970s, we had three horrible winters in row in New England, capped by the blizzard of 1978 that dumped 54 inches of snow in some sections. In Providence, the drifts were so high that people walked over an abandoned school bus on a major thoroughfare. That led alarmists to publish books about a coming Ice Age. They were advertised in The New York Times Book Review.

It has been shown conclusively that throughout earth’s existence, we have had cycles of climate, cycles within cycles and cycles within cycles within cycles. They will continue into the future and with each, there will always be charlatans selling their snake oil solutions.

As P. T. Barnum said, there’s a sucker born every minute and two to take him. You and your progressive ilk are interested only in exerting your power over society. Your problem is we're not the suckers. You are.

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Jul 24, 2019 15:14:52   #
teabag09
 
permafrost wrote:
Gosh, you guys will go to any lengths to insist CC is not real and mankind has nothing to do with it..

All your sputtering and snarling will not change a thing..

Coal is not coming back..


https://www.edf.org/climate/9-ways-we-know-humans-triggered-c*****e-c****e

https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/science/human-contribution-to-gw-faq.html

https://skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-global-warming.htm


There are more coal cars pulling into Lambert's Point, Norfolk, Virginia than I've seen in the last 10 years. Of course it's going overseas but American coal is alive and well again. Mike

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Jul 24, 2019 15:34:00   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
teabag09 wrote:
There are more coal cars pulling into Lambert's Point, Norfolk, Virginia than I've seen in the last 10 years. Of course it's going overseas but American coal is alive and well again. Mike


lHeck, more coal was used under Obama then now..

never the less the orange dip stick is spending mountains of our tax payer money trying to bring back coal.

More of the never ending government waste..

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-says-coal-is-back-coal-consumption-just-hit-a-41-year-low/

U.S. coal consumption last year dropped to its lowest level since 1978, according to the U.S. Department of Energy.
Demand for other energy sources, particularly natural gas, is taking market share from coal.
The Trump administration is investing millions in bolstering the coal industry despite shifts away from coal, including renewable energy.
President Donald Trump likes to tout coal, calling it "indestructible" and proclaiming that "coal is back." Around the U.S., use of the f****l f**l shows a different trend: Coal consumption is at its lowest level in more than 40 years.


That's according to the latest data from the U.S. Department of Energy, which on Monday said coal usage fell to 687 million short tons, its lowest since 1978. Production also fell to its second-lowest level since 1978, the agency said.

Most of that coal is used to produce electric power. Despite the decline in both production and demand, the Trump administration is investing in the coal industry, with the Energy Department on Monday pledging $39 million for research into improving the efficiency of coal plants.

C*****e C****e More
Cement contributes to g****l w*****g, investors warn
Record-high temperatures could scorch U.S. economy
National Weather Service bakes biscuits in a car
Wildfires could grow exponentially as climate warms
"The Trump administration remains committed to ensuring a coal-fueled power plant fleet that provides stable energy to the power grid," said Assistant Secretary for Fossil Energy Steven Winberg in a statement.

Bloomberg's coal pledge
Despite the Trump administration's efforts, coal consumption and production were higher during the Obama administration. The reason: Competing energy sources, especially natural gas, are now taking market share away from coal. The costs of wind and solar energy have also dropped sharply, with a growing number of states and cities embracing renewable energy due to concerns about c*****e c****e.

Slumping demand for coal hasn't been lost on some Trump administration critics. Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg earlier this month pledged $500 million toward an effort to close all remaining domestic coal plants by 2030. His goal is to put the U.S. on a path toward 100% clean energy. Bloomberg noted that 51 coal-fired plants have closed since the 2016 p**********l e******n.

"Despite all the bluster from the White House, as a matter of fact, since Trump got elected the rate of closure has gone up," Bloomberg said.

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Jul 24, 2019 17:36:18   #
Seth
 
maximus wrote:
In 2005 he paid 38 million dollars in taxes...Rachael Madcow showed his tax return on national TV so it's a fact...$38,000,000. The "orange criminal" also takes NO money for his service to the country.

I mentioned taxes because the liberal/democrat answer to CC is taxes. Is CC a h**x? No, the earth is getting warmer for sure. The question is did mankind cause it. It's starting to look like only the scientists to say so are the ones getting paid to do so, or those getting grants for it. Many other well known scientists say that this is just the weather of the earth.
Have you considered countries like China and India? These countries are rising up in the world and they need energy to do it. If you take it away, you send them back from 2 meals a day to starvation, from a second world country to a third world country.
While the earth is warming, the record for the warmest year was 1938, according to NASA.
In 2005 he paid 38 million dollars in taxes...Rach... (show quote)


Spectacularly said!

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Jul 24, 2019 17:58:07   #
Carol Kelly
 
Seth wrote:
I don't know, Peter. Why don't you head up there yourself and check the accuracy of this report? Take a first hand gander at it, get the 4-1-1.

But bring warm clothes -- the last couple of "liberals" who went up there were so sure the reports they had were accurate that they went ready for nice early spring weather... and had to have their toes amputated due to severe frostbite.


Ditto!

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