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Jul 22, 2019 14:43:37   #
Singularity
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I sincerely want you heal and be happy. You know why I easily cry? I feel the pain of others, and even those creatures around us. Why? I don't know. I can't help it. Because love is most important in our relationship with everybody including the nature that surrounds us. And that love is part of God's grace.


I agree except for the fact that I believe love is just human nature. And that grace is a state of mind based on human creativity and longing for connection.

And that its even more special because of that!

I'm not trying to start another argument, just explaining me.

If you are gonna insist on loving me, you need a clear honest picture of what you are getting in to.

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Jul 22, 2019 14:45:15   #
debeda
 
Singularity wrote:
I agree except for the fact that I believe love is just human nature. And that grace is a state of mind based on human creativity and longing for connection.

And that its even more special because of that!

I'm not trying to start another argument, just explaining me.

If you are gonna insist on loving me, you need a clear honest picture of what you are getting in to.


Did you ever read my tag line at the bottom of my posts?

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Jul 22, 2019 14:50:44   #
Singularity
 
debeda wrote:
Did you ever read my tag line at the bottom of my posts?


yup.

Its practically embroidered on the waistbands and collars of my sweat suits.

My dad would say, even a genius is not spoilt by learnin'.

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Jul 22, 2019 15:07:06   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Singularity wrote:
Strange how its always someone else, out there, who is causing ALL the problems. Nice that one is not required to self inventory or self blame. The problem with locating the problem outside of oneself is that one is then powerless to effect change.

Aggrievement is necessarily an interactive process. Like the tree falling in a forest, if no one is there to hear it, is an antisemitic trope really insulting?

It IS Semitic, correct? Root word semite? I keep hearing it pronounced as if its spelled "simetic."

"Trump has never just called out people for their Race... He is a multi-insulter that discriminates not on their Race but on their stupidity." Trump's r****m is a well known historical fact, evident for decades. We should not be so worried about it, though. Nobody important seems bothered by it.

As Pennylynn said, "And I think that most white people have been called a r****t at one time or another.... we hear it and it just sounds like wah wah wah!"

I have never in my life, not once, ever been called a r****t. No "wah, wah, wah." Not even one "wah." Different strokes for different folks.
Strange how its always someone else, out there, wh... (show quote)


Wrong... I made 2 statements that are factual.

1st... The definition of R****m vs Bigotry...

2nd... Your claim that it is a fact that Trump is a R****t and expect us to believe you without proving your conclusion.

You have failed to acknowledge the difference between R****m and Bigotry... Which is at the core of this discussion.

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Jul 22, 2019 15:13:55   #
Singularity
 
debeda wrote:
Yep. I fully understand. But you've gotta dust it off or he's still with you. Everyone has pain, and failures and triumphs and joy. Sometimes you also need to have the strength to not consider others' desires, so long as your action or inaction causes no harm. Lol I may have a high IQ but the EQ is always a work in progress.

Persistent training leaves habits and triggers, buttons that can be pushed by operators of good or bad faith for decades to come.

As my normally sweet big brother once apologized, " Sorry to have pushed your buttons that way, I should know better since I installed a bunch of them!"

Removing land mines once the war is over, is sometimes more than one lifetime of work.

And its not just FIGHT OR FLIGHT. Newer research reveals other additional mechanisms and brain/mind/body states to produce responses best described as FREEZE OR FAWN to describe triggered responses of subordinate or prey animals. Or individuals in long term enforced subordinate positions.

Like when helpless brutes think they require somebody else's body to make their damn sandwiches.

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Jul 22, 2019 15:19:08   #
Singularity
 
Ferrous wrote:
Wrong... I made 2 statements that are factual.

1st... The definition of R****m vs Bigotry...

2nd... Your claim that it is a fact that Trump is a R****t and expect us to believe you without proving your conclusion.

You have failed to acknowledge the difference between R****m and Bigotry... Which is at the core of this discussion.


I only have two hands. Make your own damn sandwich.

Sigh. You have failed to understand that which I have written already. It doesn't really matter what variety of narcissistic misanthrope is beating one ass, as long as you escape or k**l it and live to see the light of day. Once calm, long nights by the fire can be passed cataloging and fine tuning the stories.

I think in terms of your analysis of DJT, you are correct that he is a multitasking type of primarily bigoted h**e baiter and it's difficult to rank the expertise of varieties of h**e he peddles.

R****m is definitely one of his favorite cudgels.

It is known. Google it. Or not, you are free to pursue your own dream.

QED

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Jul 22, 2019 15:25:03   #
debeda
 
Singularity wrote:
yup.

Its practically embroidered on the waistbands and collars of my sweat suits.

My dad would say, even a genius is not spoilt by learnin'.


smart dad!

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Jul 22, 2019 15:26:22   #
debeda
 
Ferrous wrote:
Wrong... I made 2 statements that are factual.

1st... The definition of R****m vs Bigotry...

2nd... Your claim that it is a fact that Trump is a R****t and expect us to believe you without proving your conclusion.

You have failed to acknowledge the difference between R****m and Bigotry... Which is at the core of this discussion.



agreed, ferrous I have never seen a bit of r****m from President Trump.

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Jul 22, 2019 15:32:20   #
debeda
 
Singularity wrote:
Persistent training leaves habits and triggers, buttons that can be pushed by operators of good or bad faith for decades to come.

As my normally sweet big brother once apologized, " Sorry to have pushed your buttons that way, I should know better since I installed a bunch of them!"

Removing land mines once the war is over, is sometimes more than one lifetime of work.

And its not just FIGHT OR FLIGHT. Newer research reveals other additional mechanisms and brain/mind/body states to produce responses best described as FREEZE OR FAWN to describe triggered responses of subordinate or prey animals. Or individuals in long term enforced subordinate positions.

Like when helpless brutes think they require somebody else's body to make their damn sandwiches.
Persistent training leaves habits and triggers, bu... (show quote)


I get that. But we also have self awareness. My dad was an SOB. He would hit us, push us , hold us underwater randomly for fun. One day when I was about 12 I was doing dishes when he came in. He would often rap us in the back of the head with a big heavy ring he wore to make lumps. So when he walked past i flinched. A bell went off in my head, like "why am I flinching, he's the weak bully." And I became aware of my actions around him. I was still wary, but no longer prey.

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Jul 22, 2019 15:34:14   #
debeda
 
Singularity wrote:
I only have two hands. Make your own damn sandwich.

Sigh. You have failed to understand that which I have written already. It doesn't really matter what variety of narcissistic misanthrope is beating one ass, as long as you escape or k**l it and live to see the light of day. Once calm, long nights by the fire can be passed cataloging and fine tuning the stories.

I think in terms of your analysis of DJT, you are correct that he is a multitasking type of primarily bigoted h**e baiter and it's difficult to rank the expertise of varieties of h**e he peddles.

R****m is definitely one of his favorite cudgels.

It is known. Google it. Or not, you are free to pursue your own dream.

QED
I only have two hands. Make your own damn sandwich... (show quote)


Just because you can Google something doesn't make it t***h.

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Jul 22, 2019 15:40:26   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
debeda wrote:
Just because you can Google something doesn't make it t***h.


Deb...the high level of common sense that you show, is refreshing and inspirational...

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Jul 22, 2019 15:44:08   #
debeda
 
byronglimish wrote:
Deb...the high level of common sense that you show, is refreshing and inspirational...


Why thank you, Byron! Means a lot coming from you

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Jul 22, 2019 15:49:58   #
Singularity
 
debeda wrote:
smart dad!

Genius! Finished fifth grade. Still cogently explaining an Euripides reference to me once his dementia was too thick to know who I was anymore....

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Jul 22, 2019 15:52:53   #
debeda
 
Singularity wrote:
Genius! Finished fifth grade. Still covertly explaining an Euripides reference to me once his dementia was too thick to know who I was anymore....


Oh, so sorry. Havent had the agony of watching a family member fade away

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Jul 22, 2019 15:53:41   #
Radiance3
 
Singularity wrote:
I agree except for the fact that I believe love is just human nature. And that grace is a state of mind based on human creativity and longing for connection.

And that its even more special because of that!

I'm not trying to start another argument, just explaining me.

If you are gonna insist on loving me, you need a clear honest picture of what you are getting in to.

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Because I want you to be more of the real you. The one who could have accomplished a lot, be happy instead of harboring pain and resentment. It is not easy, but hoping you'll try. Good luck. No more arguments from me.

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