Actually, it is mellow here compared to what it used to be, and many of us have become friends, on both sides.
We wear each other out over this crap, and go home at the end of the day friendly.

And, as far as insults go, I'm seeing a LOT more from your side. The newer people here don't understand the relationships that have been developed over several years of interaction. They just join, and attack.

There should be some respect shown for relationships that have developed over time, but that isn't possible here thanks to you people who come in, and want to dominate this forum.

Permafrost, and I butt heads in a friendly way, and get along pretty well. I think we understand each other, and roll with it, and I don't believe he would report something like this as an insult, rather, giving him a hard time.

There are people here attempting to silence us by any means necessary. Plain, and simple.


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archie bunker wrote:
permafrost wrote:
OOF DA,, You do understand that steel never is gone... near 80% of the US steel is recycled..

So find some other figures to toss around. Hint, if they are from right wing fish wrap, they are lying to you..



Oh nuts, I forgot this because it is so well known..


The energy payback for a 2-megawatt wind turbine that lasts over 20 years is... 5-8 months



Need the whole story? let me know and you get the link..

read it? You will have to do that yourself... hard work for you deniers..


Permi, I h**e to have to light you up my friend, but is your ass sore from pulling the 6-8 month payback time out of it?

I just spoke with my son who has climbed thousands of them all over the country, and is currently inside one trying to figure out what it's problem is.

He told me that there are endless variables in payback time. Maintenence costs, contract variables, etc....

The wind farm he works on has 104 1.5 megawatt towers that bring in 60 bucks per megawatt hour. Many he has worked bring in as little as 6 bucks. And it's a 3 million dollar machine.

I told him what you said, and he told me to tell you you're full of s**t. It will take a minimum of 10 years for full payback in produced power.

He also told me that if you have any more questions, to send you his email, and he'll give you all of the accurate information you need.

This 32 year old kid has been to schools, and training all over the country, and like I said, has climbed, dismantled, and reassembled thousands of them. Also, he works for the largest energy corporation in the world. Literally. I consider him to be an expert on thos

Permafrost, and I butt heads in a friendly way, and get along pretty well. I think we understand each other, and roll with it, and I don't believe he would report something like this as an insult, rather, giving him a hard time.

There are people here attempting to silence us by any means necessary. Plain, and simple.


from: Admin (all from/all to)
received on: Jun 22, 2019 16:45:05
This is an automated notice.

Your post inside topic "Is the World Abandoning F****l F**ls?" was deleted.

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archie bunker wrote:
permafrost wrote:
OOF DA,, You do understand that steel never is gone... near 80% of the US steel is recycled..

So find some other figures to toss around. Hint, if they are from right wing fish wrap, they are lying to you..



Oh nuts, I forgot this because it is so well known..


The energy payback for a 2-megawatt wind turbine that lasts over 20 years is... 5-8 months



Need the whole story? let me know and you get the link..

read it? You will have to do that yourself... hard work for you deniers..


Permi, I h**e to have to light you up my friend, but is your ass sore from pulling the 6-8 month payback time out of it?

I just spoke with my son who has climbed thousands of them all over the country, and is currently inside one trying to figure out what it's problem is.

He told me that there are endless variables in payback time. Maintenence costs, contract variables, etc....

The wind farm he works on has 104 1.5 megawatt towers that bring in 60 bucks per megawatt hour. Many he has worked bring in as little as 6 bucks. And it's a 3 million dollar machine.

I told him what you said, and he told me to tell you you're full of s**t. It will take a minimum of 10 years for full payback in produced power.

He also told me that if you have any more questions, to send you his email, and he'll give you all of the accurate information you need.

This 32 year old kid has been to schools, and training all over the country, and like I said, has climbed, dismantled, and reassembled thousands of them. Also, he works for the largest energy corporation in the world. Literally. I consider him to be an expert on thos

Permafrost, and I butt heads in a friendly way, and get along pretty well. I think we understand each other, and roll with it, and I don't believe he would report something like this as an insult, rather, giving him a hard time.

There are people here attempting to silence us by any means necessary. Plain, and simple.


from: Admin (all from/all to)
received on: Jun 22, 2019 16:45:05
This is an automated notice.

Your post inside topic "Is the World Abandoning F****l F**ls?" was deleted.

Action comment: insult, repeated warnings/deletions will lead to account suspension

Deleted post:
archie bunker wrote:
permafrost wrote:
OOF DA,, You do understand that steel never is gone... near 80% of the US steel is recycled..

So find some other figures to toss around. Hint, if they are from right wing fish wrap, they are lying to you..



Oh nuts, I forgot this because it is so well known..


The energy payback for a 2-megawatt wind turbine that lasts over 20 years is... 5-8 months



Need the whole story? let me know and you get the link..

read it? You will have to do that yourself... hard work for you deniers..


Permi, I h**e to have to light you up my friend, but is your ass sore from pulling the 6-8 month payback time out of it?

I just spoke with my son who has climbed thousands of them all over the country, and is currently inside one trying to figure out what it's problem is.

He told me that there are endless variables in payback time. Maintenence costs, contract variables, etc....

The wind farm he works on has 104 1.5 megawatt towers that bring in 60 bucks per megawatt hour. Many he has worked bring in as little as 6 bucks. And it's a 3 million dollar machine.

I told him what you said, and he told me to tell you you're full of s**t. It will take a minimum of 10 years for full payback in produced power.

He also told me that if you have any more questions, to send you his email, and he'll give you all of the accurate information you need.

This 32 year old kid has been to schools, and training all over the country, and like I said, has climbed, dismantled, and reassembled thousands of them. Also, he works for the largest energy corporation in the world. Literally. I consider him to be an expert on thos

Actually, it is mellow here compared to what it used to be, and many of us have become friends, on both sides.
We wear each other out over this crap, and go home at the end of the day friendly.

And, as far as insults go, I'm seeing a LOT more from your side. The newer people here don't understand the relationships that have been developed over several years of interaction. They just join, and attack.

There should be some respect shown for relationships that have developed over time, but that isn't possible here thanks to you people who come in, and want to dominate this forum.