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If you could choose anyone to represent America as "a city upon a hill," who would it be?
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Jun 17, 2019 18:15:19   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Kevyn wrote:
May both their graves never spend a day urine free.


May obama's grave be spit on every single day twice a day...

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Jun 17, 2019 18:32:26   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Kevyn wrote:
Carter was our most decent and Godly president, Kennedy our most inspirational, but hands down FDR was our best; he did more than any man in history to protect the world from the evils of c*******m, the excess brutality of unbridled capitalism and the tyranny of f*****m.


Wouldn't protecting the world from c*******m be against everything you stand for?

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Jun 17, 2019 18:37:27   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Kevyn wrote:
Carter was our most decent and Godly president, Kennedy our most inspirational, but hands down FDR was our best; he did more than any man in history to protect the world from the evils of c*******m, the excess brutality of unbridled capitalism and the tyranny of f*****m.


Kennedy was the biggest womanizer, FDR was buddy buddy with Stalin who murdered millions of Russian people who didnt like the way he ruled...Yes he was "best" alright!!!

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Jun 17, 2019 19:04:14   #
Mikeyavelli
 
proud republican wrote:
Kennedy was the biggest womanizer, FDR was buddy buddy with Stalin who murdered millions of Russian people who didnt like the way he ruled...Yes he was "best" alright!!!
Kennedy was the biggest womanizer, FDR was buddy b... (show quote)


Without a doubt, Trump is as good a president as Washington and Lincoln and will be revered as such.
I imagine a Trump Tower in Washington DC, a monument to rival the one Washington has in his honor. All three of these presidents are essential to the greatness and survival of America.

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Jun 17, 2019 20:42:02   #
rumitoid
 
archie bunker wrote:
My dog. People suck!


So, you have mastered Zen. Impressive!

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Jun 17, 2019 20:42:52   #
rumitoid
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Al Capone is the only one who could represent our Congress.


Funny but not really.

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Jun 17, 2019 20:52:15   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
So, you have mastered Zen. Impressive!


I can't say as I've ever mastered anything, Rumi. I just like my dog.

Hell, I've fished my whole life, and never mastered baiting!

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Jun 17, 2019 20:59:07   #
Radiance3
 
archie bunker wrote:
Don't give him that much credit. Dogs are good, and worthwhile. People love dogs, not Kevyn.


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I know, I regretted about that. Perhaps a horse?

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Jun 17, 2019 21:01:18   #
Mikeyavelli
 
archie bunker wrote:
I can't say as I've ever mastered anything, Rumi. I just like my dog.

Hell, I've fished my whole life, and never mastered baiting!


Uh, gotta hand it to you.

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Jun 17, 2019 21:32:46   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Uh, gotta hand it to you.


Well played!

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Jun 17, 2019 22:05:55   #
Mikeyavelli
 
archie bunker wrote:
Well played!


...like my creative buddy in college, even his sex life was hand made. I got him a Funbeam Palm Razor and dark sunglasses in case he went blind.

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Jun 17, 2019 23:23:03   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
lindajoy wrote:
Thomas Jefferson for his strong, very strong Constitutional development..

We need a strong defender of our Constitution, Bill of Right, Declaration of Independence etc..

Excellent choice, Linda!

I’d have to go with, Marcus Tullius Cicero.

John Adams said of him; “All ages of the world have not produced a greater statesman and philosopher combined.”

Anthony Everitt called him an “architect of constitutions that still govern our lives.”

Thomas Jefferson said the Declaration of Independence was based on “the elementary books of public right, as Aristotle, Cicero, Locke, Sidney, etc.”

Historian Edward Gibbon put it, “his writings breathed the spirit of freedom.”

Voltaire said: “He taught us how to think.”

Particularly influential was his idea of natural law, echoed by John Locke and other enlightenment thinkers: Human nature included reason, which could discover justice, which was the basis of law.

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Jun 17, 2019 23:51:45   #
rumitoid
 
archie bunker wrote:
I can't say as I've ever mastered anything, Rumi. I just like my dog.

Hell, I've fished my whole life, and never mastered baiting!


Do not be so modest. You epitomize this: “Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water.” — Zen Kōan And pet your dog.

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Jun 17, 2019 23:57:58   #
rumitoid
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Excellent choice, Linda!

I’d have to go with, Marcus Tullius Cicero.

John Adams said of him; “All ages of the world have not produced a greater statesman and philosopher combined.”

Anthony Everitt called him an “architect of constitutions that still govern our lives.”

Thomas Jefferson said the Declaration of Independence was based on “the elementary books of public right, as Aristotle, Cicero, Locke, Sidney, etc.”

Historian Edward Gibbon put it, “his writings breathed the spirit of freedom.”

Voltaire said: “He taught us how to think.”

Particularly influential was his idea of natural law, echoed by John Locke and other enlightenment thinkers: Human nature included reason, which could discover justice, which was the basis of law.
Excellent choice, Linda! br br I’d have to go wit... (show quote)


Yeah yeah yeah all that may be true, and it's pretty good, but can he golf?

My older brother had two heroes (and he was mine): Aquinas and Cicero. He was a brilliant lawyer. His unqualified awe for such minds of reason and law as they dictated his entire life's path. I had forgotten that fact. Thank you.

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Jun 18, 2019 00:17:49   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
rumitoid wrote:
Yeah yeah yeah all that may be true, and it's pretty good, but can he golf?

Hahahaha!!!

He must’ve been pretty good, there’s a golf shop located in Cicero, New York.
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My older brother had two heroes (and he was mine): Aquinas and Cicero. He was a brilliant lawyer. His unqualified awe for such minds of reason and law as they dictated his entire life's path. I had forgotten that fact. Thank you.

Your brother had excellent taste. Aquinas is also another favorite of mine. I read a quote of his the other day, tried to post it as my “signature line” but it wouldn’t fit.

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