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If you could choose anyone to represent America as "a city upon a hill," who would it be?
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Jun 16, 2019 18:55:13   #
rumitoid
 
Reagan was quoting Puritan John Winthrop's lecture "A Model of Christian Charity" delivered on March 21, 1630 when he spoke of America "as a city upon a hill, the eyes of all people are upon us." President Kennedy also spoke of our native exceptionalism in this way in a speech in 1961 and the phrase has been used repeatedly over the decades by many to declare our Constitutional existence as that endowed and blessed by the Creator.

Our representative needs to be the living personification of that vision, of our ideals, principles, values, and laws about liberty and a government by we the people as God granted to all. Not a perfect person, of course, yet one that consistently strives to personally incorporate those things in him- or herself and his or her actions in office. The matters of state may make this pedestal a difficult seat to hold. Yet always he or she will act for what best serves liberty and justice for ALL.

Remember, the eyes of ALL people will be upon him or her. So, name a candidate. Please give the reasons for your choice.

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Jun 16, 2019 19:16:13   #
Hug
 
rumitoid wrote:
Reagan was quoting Puritan John Winthrop's lecture "A Model of Christian Charity" delivered on March 21, 1630 when he spoke of America "as a city upon a hill, the eyes of all people are upon us." President Kennedy also spoke of our native exceptionalism in this way in a speech in 1961 and the phrase has been used repeatedly over the decades by many to declare our Constitutional existence as that endowed and blessed by the Creator.

Our representative needs to be the living personification of that vision, of our ideals, principles, values, and laws about liberty and a government by we the people as God granted to all. Not a perfect person, of course, yet one that consistently strives to personally incorporate those things in him- or herself and his or her actions in office. The matters of state may make this pedestal a difficult seat to hold. Yet always he or she will act for what best serves liberty and justice for ALL.

Remember, the eyes of ALL people will be upon him or her. So, name a candidate. Please give the reasons for your choice.
Reagan was quoting Puritan John Winthrop's lecture... (show quote)

DONALD TRUMP!

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Jun 16, 2019 19:23:46   #
Kevyn
 
rumitoid wrote:
Reagan was quoting Puritan John Winthrop's lecture "A Model of Christian Charity" delivered on March 21, 1630 when he spoke of America "as a city upon a hill, the eyes of all people are upon us." President Kennedy also spoke of our native exceptionalism in this way in a speech in 1961 and the phrase has been used repeatedly over the decades by many to declare our Constitutional existence as that endowed and blessed by the Creator.

Our representative needs to be the living personification of that vision, of our ideals, principles, values, and laws about liberty and a government by we the people as God granted to all. Not a perfect person, of course, yet one that consistently strives to personally incorporate those things in him- or herself and his or her actions in office. The matters of state may make this pedestal a difficult seat to hold. Yet always he or she will act for what best serves liberty and justice for ALL.
Carter was our most decent and Godly president, Kennedy our most inspirational, but hands down FDR was our best; he did more than any man in history to protect the world from the evils of c*******m, the excess brutality of unbridled capitalism and the tyranny of f*****m.
Remember, the eyes of ALL people will be upon him or her. So, name a candidate. Please give the reasons for your choice.
Reagan was quoting Puritan John Winthrop's lecture... (show quote)
Carter was our most decent and Godly president, Kennedy our most inspirational, but hands down FDR was our best; he did more than any man in history to protect the world from the evils of c*******m, the excess brutality of unbridled capitalism and the tyranny of f*****m.

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Jun 16, 2019 19:47:36   #
Liberty Tree
 
rumitoid wrote:
Reagan was quoting Puritan John Winthrop's lecture "A Model of Christian Charity" delivered on March 21, 1630 when he spoke of America "as a city upon a hill, the eyes of all people are upon us." President Kennedy also spoke of our native exceptionalism in this way in a speech in 1961 and the phrase has been used repeatedly over the decades by many to declare our Constitutional existence as that endowed and blessed by the Creator.

Our representative needs to be the living personification of that vision, of our ideals, principles, values, and laws about liberty and a government by we the people as God granted to all. Not a perfect person, of course, yet one that consistently strives to personally incorporate those things in him- or herself and his or her actions in office. The matters of state may make this pedestal a difficult seat to hold. Yet always he or she will act for what best serves liberty and justice for ALL.

Remember, the eyes of ALL people will be upon him or her. So, name a candidate. Please give the reasons for your choice.
Reagan was quoting Puritan John Winthrop's lecture... (show quote)


Since you did not specify that they had to be in political office I would nominate Joni Erickson Tada. She is a woman who became a quadapalegic at a young age yet has had a long history of service with a tremendous attitude. For those not familiar with her I urge you to go online and read her biography in wikipedia.

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Jun 16, 2019 20:03:08   #
Hug
 
Kevyn wrote:
Carter was our most decent and Godly president, Kennedy our most inspirational, but hands down FDR was our best; he did more than any man in history to protect the world from the evils of c*******m, the excess brutality of unbridled capitalism and the tyranny of f*****m.

Well stated, but I believe FDR trusted Stalin too much. FDR had already agreed to let Stalin have the "shatter belt" countries before FDR died. Truman felt like he had to honor FDR's agreement. Stalin "outfoxed" Truman and Churchill. Hence the Cold War. I will stay with TRUMP. He has accomplished a lot against very strong opposition. The economy is the telling issue.

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Jun 16, 2019 20:21:42   #
Al Armed
 
Every time I try to come on this site, you are one of the first posts I come to. And every single time, your post's insanity is only exceeded by its sheer inaccuracy. Are you running some kind of social experiment?

When FDR died, the entire military leadership breathed a sigh of relief. He was referred to by military brass as "the evil one" or "the evil man" for his naked blood lust. That he goaded the Japanese into attacking us at Pearl Harbor is beyond dispute. That he was aware of the pending attack but prevented a warning to the Americans on the base is well known. That he took pains to ensure the naval base was full of second tier ships while our first tier were out to sea, but fully manned so as to inflict maximum loss of American seamen and inflame public opinion in favor of war is also now known. And you think he is the greatest president?

Oh, and by the way, the great man campaigned on a promise to keep us OUT of WWII while secretly doing everything he could to get us INTO it.

Stalin certainly was a fan, for, far from being a foe of c*******m, as you absurdly claim, he was in fact a great benefactor of Stalin and the Soviet mass murderers. It was his administration that recognized the USSR within a few months of taking office. It was his administration that allied with the Soviet monsters who had already genocided tens of millions of Russian Christians in an unbelievably brutal reign of terror--far, far more brutal than anything the N**is ever committed.

Anyone who believes that that shriveled, vile, little weasel was our greatest president is an enemy of humanity. Seriously.

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Jun 16, 2019 20:21:51   #
rumitoid
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Since you did not specify that they had to be in political office I would nominate Joni Erickson Tada. She is a woman who became a quadapalegic at a young age yet has had a long history of service with a tremendous attitude. For those not familiar with her I urge you to go online and read her biography in wikipedia.


That was an excellent choice. Mine is Helen Keller or Rosa Parks or Harriet Tubman. Yet yours is right up there.

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Jun 16, 2019 20:23:47   #
rumitoid
 
Hug wrote:
Well stated, but I believe FDR trusted Stalin too much. FDR had already agreed to let Stalin have the "shatter belt" countries before FDR died. Truman felt like he had to honor FDR's agreement. Stalin "outfoxed" Truman and Churchill. Hence the Cold War. I will stay with TRUMP. He has accomplished a lot against very strong opposition. The economy is the telling issue.


You should read more about Truman; he is probably the main reason a Cold War came into being.

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Jun 16, 2019 20:26:37   #
rumitoid
 
Al Armed wrote:
Every time I try to come on this site, you are one of the first posts I come to. And every single time, your post's insanity is only exceeded by its sheer inaccuracy. Are you running some kind of social experiment?

When FDR died, the entire military leadership breathed a sigh of relief. He was referred to by military brass as "the evil one" or "the evil man" for his naked blood lust. That he goaded the Japanese into attacking us at Pearl Harbor is beyond dispute. That he was aware of the pending attack but prevented a warning to the Americans on the base is well known. That he took pains to ensure the naval base was full of second tier ships while our first tier were out to sea, but fully manned so as to inflict maximum loss of American seamen and inflame public opinion in favor of war is also now known. And you think he is the greatest president?

Oh, and by the way, the great man campaigned on a promise to keep us OUT of WWII while secretly doing everything he could to get us INTO it.

Stalin certainly was a fan, for, far from being a foe of c*******m, as you absurdly claim, he was in fact a great benefactor of Stalin and the Soviet mass murderers. It was his administration that recognized the USSR within a few months of taking office. It was his administration that allied with the Soviet monsters who had already genocided tens of millions of Russian Christians in an unbelievably brutal reign of terror--far, far more brutal than anything the N**is ever committed.

Anyone who believes that that shriveled, vile, little weasel was our greatest president is an enemy of humanity. Seriously.
Every time I try to come on this site, you are one... (show quote)


I know who you are responding to now, but use "Quote Reply" to identify to whom your comments are directed.

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Jun 16, 2019 20:30:09   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Hug wrote:
DONALD TRUMP!


DONALD TRUMP!!!But my second choice would be Ronald Reagan!!!

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Jun 16, 2019 20:31:19   #
Al Armed
 
Kevyn wrote:
hands down FDR was our best; he did more than any man in history to protect the world from the evils of c*******m, the excess brutality of unbridled capitalism and the tyranny of f*****m.


Every time I try to come on this site, you are one of the first posts I come to. And every single time, your post's insanity is only exceeded by its sheer inaccuracy. Are you running some kind of social experiment?

When FDR died, the entire military leadership breathed a sigh of relief. He was referred to by military brass as "the evil one" or "the evil man" for his naked blood lust. That he goaded the Japanese into attacking us at Pearl Harbor is beyond dispute. That he was aware of the pending attack but prevented a warning to the Americans on the base is well known. That he took pains to ensure the naval base was full of second tier ships while our first tier were out to sea, but fully manned so as to inflict maximum loss of American seamen and inflame public opinion in favor of war is also now known. And you think he is the greatest president?

Oh, and by the way, the great man campaigned on a promise to keep us OUT of WWII while secretly doing everything he could to get us INTO it.

Stalin certainly was a fan, for, far from being a foe of c*******m, as you absurdly claim, he was in fact a great benefactor of Stalin and the Soviet mass murderers. It was his administration that recognized the USSR within a few months of taking office. It was his administration that allied with the Soviet monsters who had already genocided tens of millions of Russian Christians in an unbelievably brutal reign of terror--far, far more brutal than anything the N**is ever committed.

Anyone who believes that that shriveled, vile, little weasel was our greatest president is an enemy of humanity. Seriously.

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Jun 16, 2019 20:38:33   #
rumitoid
 
Kevyn wrote:
Carter was our most decent and Godly president, Kennedy our most inspirational, but hands down FDR was our best; he did more than any man in history to protect the world from the evils of c*******m, the excess brutality of unbridled capitalism and the tyranny of f*****m.


Carter was probably the most decent president we ever had and one of the worse. And one of the worse because he was a truly decent man.

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Jun 16, 2019 21:01:26   #
Al Armed
 
Charles Lindbergh would be my pick.

Lindbergh, born into humble circumstances on a farm in northern Minnesota, rose, through the force of sheer personal courage, to become the world's first media superstar. Despite having parades in his honor in the world's capitals, and receiving gifts in admiration (filling airplane hangars in St Louis) from all the royal houses of Asia, Africa, and Europe, he never stopped being a decent human being. He never stopped putting principle before popularity.

Like most Americans, Lindbergh was opposed to the US entry into WWII. That made him a target of the New York press, which (as always) was for war. They unleashed on him with everything they had (think Donald Trump). He remained true to his principles, refusing to knuckle under and support the war, though it cost him dearly (I was once in a bar a half-block from Cooper Union in NYC that still had up the original sign behind the bar announcing that Charles Lindbergh would never again step foot in that place. That's what actually caused me to buy and read a great biography of him called "Lindbergh"). It wasn't until his first-born, a boy about four years old, was abducted out of his own bedroom, then found bludgeoned to death a short distance away, that he finally broke. An innocent German immigrant was charged with the crime and executed, and Lindbergh retired to Hawaii--as far from NYC as possible and still be an American.

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Jun 16, 2019 21:03:00   #
Hug
 
rumitoid wrote:
You should read more about Truman; he is probably the main reason a Cold War came into being.


You could be right. Truman was overwhelmed when FDR died. Truman did not know FDR and had only met FDR once or twice before FDR died. I am a big fan of Harry. I lived through the Truman era and met Truman. I knew several of Harry's good friends, but Harry made some mistakes. I credit Harry for the Vietnam War. That is another issue.

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Jun 16, 2019 21:16:36   #
rumitoid
 
Hug wrote:
You could be right. Truman was overwhelmed when FDR died. Truman did not know FDR and had only met FDR once or twice before FDR died. I am a big fan of Harry. I lived through the Truman era and met Truman. I knew several of Harry's good friends, but Harry made some mistakes. I credit Harry for the Vietnam War. That is another issue.


Wow. You're old, lol. Met Truman. It is hard to tell today what happened in those very complicated times. A World War to win--and a C*******t threat! I don't know enough about his possible part in Vietnam.

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