Texas Governor Signs Sweeping New Law Protecting Free Speech On College Campuses
Jun 11, 2019 20:16:25 #
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
I have never watched PragerU videos so I can only take your word on those and I have also not noticed porn on Youtube, probably because I have never looked for porn on Youtube. If you see something that violates their ToS, feel free to report it.
Lol. I don’t look for porn but strange suggestions come up When I’ve looked for videos on a library computer. Otherwise I’d never have known. Why would I report it if I’m for free speech?
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As for "Google was working on a search engine... (show quote)
No I don’t endorse censorship and don’t know how you read that into what I said. I’m not suggesting anyone ban sites and for a US company to help another country censor is simply wrong. If they’d do that for another country they’d do it to us. And they do.
We are already on the censorship road and we’ve been on it for a while. Its gradually increasing though most are numbed to it as they are to surveillance everywhere
As companies get more and more powerful what is the answer for an increasingly dulled public? They police for crime and potential criminal activity - what more do they need to police for?
Jun 11, 2019 22:21:18 #
woodguru wrote:
Hows that constitutional rule of law breaking Trump thing working for you? How is it that you can't see that a president cannot impede and obstruct congress if they are looking into violations of the law, namely obstruction?
He has a phone and a pen just like ur hero! Ever heard of veto?
Jun 12, 2019 06:38:34 #
ACP45 wrote:
Congratulations to the Texas Governor! br br &quo... (show quote)
Is there anything in this law addressing the professors who give bad grades to students
who exercise their free speech that happens to oppose his or her views? Trust me, it happens
all the time.
Jun 12, 2019 07:57:33 #
woodguru wrote:
Hows that constitutional rule of law breaking Trump thing working for you? How is it that you can't see that a president cannot impede and obstruct congress if they are looking into violations of the law, namely obstruction?
Democrats are not looking into violations of the law. If they were they would be investigation Hillary's role in all of this. Democrats are just hunting for some way, anyway to get Trump.
Jun 12, 2019 15:40:53 #
woodguru wrote:
Hows that constitutional rule of law breaking Trump thing working for you? How is it that you can't see that a president cannot impede and obstruct congress if they are looking into violations of the law, namely obstruction?
When did he do so?
Jun 12, 2019 16:13:54 #
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Yes, it is ALWAYS the liberals that want to destro... (show quote)
A president who jail reporters, tap the phones of journalists and their employers, subpoena their emails, send threats of prison to news outlets; is definitely in violation of the 1st amendment. No I'm not referring to Trump but to Obama. Nor was his attacks just aimed at Fox News. He also repeatedly attacked AP and NYT.
Trying to change a law through legal means, whether you agree with it or not, or whether the law itself is in violation; is NOT violating the 1st amendment. It is a legal recourse.
You might see a great similarity between Trump and Nixon, but I assure you those of us closely following Watergate at the time don't see it. Even in the most basic characteristics. Nixon was secretive. Trump is outspoken. Now if you say there is a similarity to Teddy Roosevelt, I'd strongly concur. Blustering, outspoken, politically incorrect, outwardly crude, America first, generous and quick to help others on a personal level, he unabashedly pounded his policies and theories into his fellow countrymen, a good negotiator, his Big Stick policy of diplomacy backed by military might.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/opinion/sunday/if-donald-trump-targets-journalists-thank-obama.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/05/20/shredding-the-constitution-obamas-attack-on-the-associated-press/?utm_term=.58f5b8616c4f
Jun 12, 2019 16:16:31 #
Morgan wrote:
I believe who can speak on campus should be up to ... (show quote)
So long as the college is receiving taxpayer funds from the government -- then NO, they cannot simply do as they choose!
Jun 12, 2019 16:23:35 #
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Trump being named specifically as one that is working towards bringing 1st amendment to the internet, something that can't really be done, nor should it be, as it would require some form threats of banning those sites, something that would be unthinkable. Doesn't that go against conservative values even, well, traditional conservative values anyways. Traditional conservatives do not believe in over-regulating business.
Banning???? When someone violates the first amendment, their words or the medium through which their words are conveyed are NOT banned. If the NYT censors one side on an issue (such as the so called town hall held after the Parkland shootings), the recourse isn't to shut down the newspaper. That would be every bit as much of a violation of the 1st.
You need to reread the 1st amendment. To think applying the 1st is censorship is the absolute reverse of what the 1st is all about!
Jun 12, 2019 16:29:16 #
promilitary wrote:
Is there anything in this law addressing the professors who give bad grades to students
who exercise their free speech that happens to oppose his or her views? Trust me, it happens
all the time.
who exercise their free speech that happens to oppose his or her views? Trust me, it happens
all the time.
Yes, that is common. And should also be addressed. These college "educators" suck, in large part IMO
Jun 12, 2019 16:30:46 #
JoyV wrote:
A president who jail reporters, tap the phones of ... (show quote)
Well said and AGREED, JoyV
Jun 12, 2019 16:31:07 #
JoyV wrote:
So long as the college is receiving taxpayer funds from the government -- then NO, they cannot simply do as they choose!
Jun 12, 2019 16:35:31 #
JoyV wrote:
So long as the college is receiving taxpayer funds from the government -- then NO, they cannot simply do as they choose!
You say it as fact, so please back it up for an across the board law for all public institutions.
Jun 12, 2019 16:38:02 #
Morgan wrote:
On the topic of free speech wouldn't that null and void gag orders of public research offices? As in Trump withholding public information from the EPA?
All the left wing news stories have it that it is the EPA under Pruitt who is withholding information. Under both Bush and Obama, the EPA policies allowed senior staff to delay FOIA production until they reviewed and approved of such disclosures. Trump has made a change and requires FOIA requests to be responded to within 3 business days. So IF Trump were behind Pruitt's withholding info, he is certainly working against that withholding.
Jun 12, 2019 16:40:55 #
debeda wrote:
Conservatives are being banned in droves now 
Yup. I use to be on more than half a dozen conservative facebook groups, as well as several liberal facebook groups. ALL the conservative groups I was on have been shut down. NONE of the liberal groups have.
Jun 12, 2019 16:46:02 #
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
No, Government should NOT be poking their nose into internet based business. Once they get their foot in the door, where will it stop? I am fine with monitoring for fraud on the internet, policing potential human trafficking or other criminal activity on the internet, but policing free speech which internet sites are NOT bound by the 1st amendment nor should they be, the government is the only entity bound by the 1st amendment, as it should be.
NOT policing free speech. Supporting free speech. In other words, if someone claims their 1st amendment rights are being violated, just because it is on a site partially private but which receives government grants; the sites would no longer be able to claim they are private so don't have to abide by the 1st amendment. Any business getting government funding would have to abide by the same laws, even if they are online.
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