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May 22, 2019 17:26:51   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
You can impeach but you can't make the right understand why?

Nothing in the report, but you can't get them to read it and see that there actually is?


Can't get who to read it? The democrats? I've read it, and I see nothing that points to obstruction. There is also nothing there that doesn't plainly say that there was no obstruction. It was worded, and tailored to cause the fight that's going on now.

Here is how stupid I think all of you people are being.

1. How do you obstruct an investigation when there was no crime to investigate in the first place?

2. Why, since you people kept in our face for two years about how the Muler report was going to be the final say, and that we should accept what it would say can't YOU accept what it says? Well, there's what it doesn't say to look at now, right?

3. The Steele thing. 2 years of golden showers, Russian collusion, all now heartily debunked. Possibly now folks in hot water for obtaining a phony FISA warrent.
Yet yall continue to throw yourselves on the floor and kick your feet in a screaming tantrum. Do you realize how pathetic you look?

4. I've asked YOU, and a few others here repeatedly to list the specific laws that Trump has broken. Nobody can, or will do it.
I guess yall need more time, and need to go a few more feet up his colon to find one, huh?

I don't like Donald Trump, and if he's committed these heinous crimes, get rid of him. I don't see where he has. What I honestly see is the democrat party trying to unseat a duly elected President at any cost, and making fools of themselves at the same time.
I see the media, and politicians playing you fools like a fiddle. You can't name specific laws he's broken because the talking heads you listen to, and read haven't laid them out for you. You just want your party in power, and you truly, truly don't give a s**t about average Americans trying to live their lives, and raise their families. You know, those of us who just want to do our thing without you people in our wallets, bathrooms, gun stores, garages, and on, and on.

Another thing. And this is personal.

I saw something someone posted about the arrogant/ignorance of the left.

You sir, are eaten up with it!

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May 22, 2019 17:41:05   #
JoyV
 
dtucker300 wrote:
6. Top GOP lawmakers are not going to let Uranium One be swept under the rug.
Former Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) has been tracking the Uranium One case since day one, and has sent numerous letters to Obama agencies to clarify their roles.

In a statement last month, Grassley said: “I’ve been pushing for years for more answers about this [the Uranium One] t***saction that allowed the Russian government to acquire U.S. uranium assets. I’ve received classified and unclassified briefings about it from multiple agencies. And I’ve identified some FBI intelligence reports that may shed more light on the t***saction. … If the Democrats want to be consistent, they’ll have to treat the Clinton, Uranium One, and Russia-related investigations the same [as the Mueller report]. Anything less than that reeks of political gamesmanship and sets a clear double standard.”

Barrasso expressed early concerns. In a 2010 letter to Obama, the senator warned: “This t***saction would give the Russian government control over a sizable portion of America’s uranium production capacity. Equally alarming, this sale gives ARMZ [Uranium Holding Co.] a significant stake in uranium mines in Kazakhstan.”

More recently, Barrasso has pushed to expand the investigations of the sale and has demanded answers regarding Uranium One’s exports of nuclear materials outside the United States—an unacceptable development, as first reported by John Solomon.


Reps. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), and several of their colleagues—notably Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.) and Ron DeSantis (now Florida governor)—have repeatedly demanded answers about the Obama administration’s approval of the Russian takeover of Uranium One. GOP lawmakers introduced a resolution last year excoriating the Obama FBI and DOJ for their roles in the Spygate scandal, which they linked to the Uranium One scandal.

It’s safe to say that these lawmakers are invested in the full exposure of Uranium One events and bringing swift justice to the Obama officials who were responsible.

7. President Trump and Attorney General Barr appear to be ready to drop the hammer.
Barr has found the Uranium One matter significant and worthy of a full investigation. In a 2017 interview with The New York Times, Barr said that the DOJ was “abdicating its responsibility” if it wasn’t investigating the Clinton Foundation vis-à-vis the Uranium One deal. In Barr’s confirmation hearing this year, Democrats grilled him on his support for the Uranium One “conspiracy theory.” While Barr seemed to distance himself during the hearing, New York Times reporter Peter Baker subsequently leaked an email in which Barr said he “believed that the predicate for investigating the uranium deal, as well as the foundation, is far stronger than any basis for investigating so-called, ‘collusion.'”

It’s clear that Barr doesn’t believe that the Uranium One deal has been fully investigated.

To date, Trump has been fully cleared of all allegations of collusion with Russia. Multiple separate investigations led by special counsel Mueller, the House Intelligence Committee, and the Senate Intelligence Committee have all concluded that there was no collusion. And yet, Democrats in Congress now want Mueller to testify and want to hold Barr in contempt if he doesn’t surrender himself to their endless interrogations.

If the Democrats want to go to war with Barr, he appears to have more than enough evidence to expose corruption that would crush the Obama administration and its defenders—starting with Spygate and ending with Uranium One.

At its core, the Uranium One deal is quite simple: Putin wanted long-term access to the U.S. nuclear supply chain. Decision-makers in Washington were under no obligation to give Putin what he wanted. Politics aside, does anyone really think that Putin deserves any access to an industry critical to the American energy sector and national security? Of course not.

Yet, in 2010, the Obama administration acquiesced and Putin gained a significant stake in an industry critical to U.S. energy and national security. Period.

Seamus Bruner is the author of the book “C*********d: How Money and Politics Drive FBI Corruption.”

Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
6. Top GOP lawmakers are not going to let Uranium ... (show quote)


Mueller has said he won't testify if subpoenaed.

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May 22, 2019 18:35:22   #
JoyV
 
PeterS wrote:
Still, at it I see. I image that's why the judge ruled that Trump's financial records are fair game. Is this what one of your giant brains told you Blade? Who was it, Levin? I'll bet it was. Here's a hypothetical. Suppose a p**********l candidate were to have used money laundering as one of the means to finance his operations. Your argument is that because the action occurred prior to his e******n all of his financial actions are off limits. So according to you, or I should say the giant brain that programmed your tiny little brain, there can be no recourse and we have to be content having a crook for a president. So is that what those giant brains tell you was how the founders designed the constitution?

Now I don't know if Trump is guilty of money laundering but that is one of the charges stemming from Deutsche Bank that haven't even been investigated yet, even though a whistleblower has stated that there was something hinky with both Tump and Kirshners financial dealing with the bank.

Snip>>Deutsche Bank Has Rolled on Donald Trump
Still, at it I see. I image that's why the judge r... (show quote)


This is probably an attempt by the bank to deflect from the heat from the investigation into their own money laundering charges. Trump has NOT been charged with money laundering!!!! Mueller already received all financial t***saction records from them with any ties to Trump. He could find no wrongdoing. So the issue was already investigated. But the bank has been raided for money laundering involving Russian officials. No connection can be found to Trump. Trump has had loans from them in the past. Taking out a bank loan and paying it back is not the definition of money laundering the last time I looked.

You can't get warrants to search for some unknown possible crime at some unknown possible time. Suppose all you want. You said; "Suppose a p**********l candidate were to have used money laundering as one of the means to finance his operations. Your argument is that because the action occurred prior to his e******n all of his financial actions are off limits." Look at those two sentences. The first says "suppose" and the second says "his actions". You start with a hypothetical then follow as if it were a proven fact and the only question being whether or not it is off limits. What if I supposed you had child porn videos in your home. No evidence but just a supposition. But what if it were true? Should we let a potential criminal get away with such a crime?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/30/18120021/deutsche-bank-headquarters-raided-trump

I wonder if the two employees who are in trouble are the same ones who alleged Trump was money laundering.

It seems the speculation into Trump being involved in money laundering stems from a condo purchased in the newly completed Trump Palace in 1991, by Process Consultants who resold it 3 years later. The company was one of many listed in the Panama Papers, which is a leaked list of wealthy people with off shore accounts. (Having an off shore account is perfectly legal by the way.) The resale was brokered by the Trump Corporation at the first company's request. Neither selling the property in the first place, nor brokering the resell in the second; are crimes. If lots of properties were purchased and immediately resold, the person doing the buying and flipping might be red f**gged as a potential money launderer. This doesn't come close. And in any case, it would be Process Consultants who would be the potential money launderer, not Trump. But since 3 years passed between the purchase and resale, it is unlikely they were doing so to launder money.

Trying to tie this to money laundering is fantastic!

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May 22, 2019 18:36:34   #
JoyV
 
PeterS wrote:
Well clearly I know more than you do and since the rulings are going against Trump more than he does too. This is actually getting to be fun. First, it was like having your teeth pulled but knowing that Trump isn't above the law it's worth waiting to watch the domino's fall...


Sounds like the same sort of rhetoric every anti-Trumper was saying during the Mueller investigation.

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May 22, 2019 18:40:05   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JoyV wrote:
Sounds like the same sort of rhetoric every anti-Trumper was saying during the Mueller investigation.


Desperation.

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May 22, 2019 18:47:14   #
JoyV
 
woodguru wrote:
https://dmlnewsapp.com/breaking-judge-decides-deutsche-bank-capital-one-can-give-trump-financial-records-democrats/

It's a b***h being on the wrong side of the law


Since Mueller already got them and investigated any possible wrong doing by Trump and could discover nothing, it is a waste of time. The only problem with the Democrats in Congress spending so much time and effort to cover the same ground already covered by Mueller, is they have little time to do their jobs. If it were their own time they were wasting I'd say "be my guest and knock yourselves out".

This is just like going to court to demand public records available to anyone be subpoenaed. But its not about reading the record is it? After all, the unredacted Mueller report is available for any House or Senate member to view in a controlled room. Yet very few have. Yet they get up in arms demanding the unredacted report be given to them.

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May 22, 2019 19:42:34   #
son of witless
 
dtucker300 wrote:
You obviously are not in a CA or NY City. Kentucky? Your story does not surprise me at all in this case.


I wondered if woodguru bothered to v**e in the primary. I am thinking that someone as committed to politics as he is, likely did v**e.

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May 23, 2019 09:33:11   #
Radiance3
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/federal-judge-sides-with-house-democrats-over-subpoena-for-trumps-financial-records/ar-AABE1wa?ocid=spartandhp

Fox News' Bill Mears, Edward Lawrence, Brooke Singman, and Kristin Brown contributed to this report.

A Washington, D.C.-based federal judge has sided with House Oversight Committee Democrats seeking to enforce their subpoena of Trump accounting firm Mazars USA, in a major ruling that breathes new life into Democrats' ongoing efforts to probe the president's financial dealings.

The subpoena seeks access to a slew of Trump financial documents dating back to 2011. Democrats pursued the subpoena after former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen testified to Congress that the president routinely and improperly altered financial statements.

Barack Obama-appointed judge Amit P. Mehta's 41-page opinion began by comparing President Trump's concerns over congressional overreach to those of President James Buchanan, asserting that Trump "has taken up the fight of his predecessor."

And Mehta acknowledged that he was "well aware that this case involves records concerning the private and business affairs of the President of the United States."

But, Mehta said, Democrats' subpoena fell within well-established congressional investigative powers. He said he would not stay his ruling pending appeal.

“It is simply not fathomable that a Constitution that grants Congress the power to remove a President for reasons including criminal behavior would deny Congress the power to investigate him for unlawful conduct—past or present—even without formally opening an impeachment inquiry," Mehta wrote.

The president’s legal team, in a filing earlier this month, had asked the judge to prohibit Mazars from “enforcing or complying” with the subpoena, issued April 15.

Trump's lawyers had argued the subpoena to Mazars “lacks a legitimate legislative purpose,” and is an “unconstitutional attempt to exercise ‘the powers of law enforcement.’”

Trump’s lawyers also noted that the House Oversight Committee, led by Chairman Elijah Cummings, D-Md., is leading several Trump-focused investigations.
.
“Chairman Cummings flat-out admitted that he wanted to ‘investigate whether the President may have engaged in illegal conduct before and during his tenure in office’ and ‘review whether he has accurately reported his finances to the Office of Government Ethics and other federal entities,’” Trump’s lawyers wrote in the filing.

The Trump team filing came after Cummings’ committee issued several subpoenas for Mazars Accounting in an effort to obtain financial documents and audits prepared for Trump and his businesses over the last decade. Cummings also sought independent auditor’s reports, annual statements and other documents related to Trump’s finances spanning from 2011 to 2018.

At the time, Mazars said it “will respect the legal process and fully comply with its legal obligations.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/federal-ju... (show quote)


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Slatten, I think your legal position on this matter is wrong.
I am about to leave, but can't stand this assault on the innocent Trump. I have to defend it. Here is the situation Slatten.

Proper legal procedure here is: First they must identify the problem committed by president Trump. Next stage is subpoena or demand surrender of the documents to review and to prove the case.

But because Congress h**e president Trump so much, they identified the victim first, who is president Trump. That is wrong!! If this process continues, and prevails, it is not only president Trump who will be deprived of his legal rights. It will be carried forward in the long run to incoming presidents at the Executive Branch. The Executive Branch is stripped out of its power, and the ability to protect and to function is disabled.

What Congress must follow to make it valid:
1. First, identify the crime or problem committed. [NOT THE PERSON THEY ACCUSE OF]
2 Next, seek all documents, or witnesses that could support the validity of the crime.
Here comes the fishing expedition:
3. When documents have proven the identified problem, then Congress could go ahead and pursue its investigation. Best channel is to refer to SC.
4. The Office of the Executive Branch have equal balanced rights with Congress, and SC.
5. The Executive Office must be respected, same with the other branches.
6. President Trump has executive privileges not to disclose or display documents sought by Congress unless there is a specific problem the president is accused of.
7. All US citizens by the power of the Constitution Amendment IV, is protected from illegal searches, demands, or scrutiny of the person's personal affairs is unlawful, unless there is specified problem presented, on the victim accused of.


What Congress is doing is plain assault and harassment against president Trump.
Pelosi's big mouth must be shut off. Congress has now prepared coordinated efforts to prevent the president from winning the 2020 p**********l e******n. But that will not happen. God will protect the president to prevent the t***sformation of our country, by removing God from us. Morals deteriorate further, baby k*****gs will increase, L**T will increase it's demands, Muslims will increase, Atheists will increase, etc.

Now, Congress is jumping up and down, due to Obama's appointed federal judge's decision. but I am confident, they will not prevail to remove the president. SC will review this.

Scrutiny of the president's papers and documents supporting his financial activities and Tax Returns, without specific problem identified first is wrong, and must be defended vigorously because it is the law. I suggest refer the matter to the SC.

Obama's appointed judge, I believe did not do his job, but for political aggrandizement of Democrats in Congress, against the sitting president. Mr. President is duly elected by 63 million citizens of this country, with 304 E*******l College V**es. Illegal removal of president Trump disenfranchises the 63 million v**ers. Congress will make all our 2016 v**es null and void. Wrong verdict.

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May 23, 2019 10:23:33   #
JediKnight
 
Seth wrote:
Extremely well put!


I notice neither one of you dared to mention that Trump refused to even "slap the wrists" of Ivanka and Kellyanne for violating the Hatch and Logan acts by campaigning and selling cheap Trump merchandise through their official government titles.....another case of pot meeting kettle huh? If you are so set on scrutinizing the life details of our politicians then let's start with Trump since he's the boss hog.

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May 23, 2019 13:13:18   #
JoyV
 
JediKnight wrote:
I notice neither one of you dared to mention that Trump refused to even "slap the wrists" of Ivanka and Kellyanne for violating the Hatch and Logan acts by campaigning and selling cheap Trump merchandise through their official government titles.....another case of pot meeting kettle huh? If you are so set on scrutinizing the life details of our politicians then let's start with Trump since he's the boss hog.


The only official Trump merchandise is sold from https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/?utm_medium=ad&utm_source=dp_googlesearch&utm_campaign=20190514_store_djt_tmagacmerch_ocpmypur_bh_audience0001_na_copy00058_us_b_18-99_gsn_all_na_lp0001_shop_conversion_search_na_na_na&utm_content=sto&gclid=CjwKCAjwiZnnBRBQEiwAcWKfYrJ8g66zN6p4giE5lAbHDPsf-md2rm0UOVEQdYeHRL5Jb2WJGrBZYBoC5gIQAvD_BwE

Other labeled Trump merchandise is made outside of the US and NOT sold by anyone associated with Trump. If you have any site to Ivanka or Kellyanne selling merchandise from a government site, please post the link.

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May 23, 2019 13:17:11   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Radiance3 wrote:
===================
Slatten, I think your legal position on this matter is wrong.
I am about to leave, but can't stand this assault on the innocent Trump. I have to defend it. Here is the situation Slatten.

Proper legal procedure here is: First they must identify the problem committed by president Trump. Next stage is subpoena or demand surrender of the documents to review and to prove the case.

But because Congress h**e president Trump so much, they identified the victim first, who is president Trump. That is wrong!! If this process continues, and prevails, it is not only president Trump who will be deprived of his legal rights. It will be carried forward in the long run to incoming presidents at the Executive Branch. The Executive Branch is stripped out of its power, and the ability to protect and to function is disabled.

What Congress must follow to make it valid:
1. First, identify the crime or problem committed. [NOT THE PERSON THEY ACCUSE OF]
2 Next, seek all documents, or witnesses that could support the validity of the crime.
Here comes the fishing expedition:
3. When documents have proven the identified problem, then Congress could go ahead and pursue its investigation. Best channel is to refer to SC.
4. The Office of the Executive Branch have equal balanced rights with Congress, and SC.
5. The Executive Office must be respected, same with the other branches.
6. President Trump has executive privileges not to disclose or display documents sought by Congress unless there is a specific problem the president is accused of.
7. All US citizens by the power of the Constitution Amendment IV, is protected from illegal searches, demands, or scrutiny of the person's personal affairs is unlawful, unless there is specified problem presented, on the victim accused of.


What Congress is doing is plain assault and harassment against president Trump.
Pelosi's big mouth must be shut off. Congress has now prepared coordinated efforts to prevent the president from winning the 2020 p**********l e******n. But that will not happen. God will protect the president to prevent the t***sformation of our country, by removing God from us. Morals deteriorate further, baby k*****gs will increase, L**T will increase it's demands, Muslims will increase, Atheists will increase, etc.

Now, Congress is jumping up and down, due to Obama's appointed federal judge's decision. but I am confident, they will not prevail to remove the president. SC will review this.

Scrutiny of the president's papers and documents supporting his financial activities and Tax Returns, without specific problem identified first is wrong, and must be defended vigorously because it is the law. I suggest refer the matter to the SC.

Obama's appointed judge, I believe did not do his job, but for political aggrandizement of Democrats in Congress, against the sitting president. Mr. President is duly elected by 63 million citizens of this country, with 304 E*******l College V**es. Illegal removal of president Trump disenfranchises the 63 million v**ers. Congress will make all our 2016 v**es null and void. Wrong verdict.
=================== br b Slatten, I think your le... (show quote)

Respectfully, Radiance, I am amused by your thinking the link's cut'n paste is my legal opinion...especially since I have no legal standing in the matter, whether I agree or not to what the court's decision was in this case. My opinion notwithstanding, this was simply a FOX article explaining a legal ruling with which you and others obviously do not agree. You may join the many others of us that have disagreed (at all levels of the judiciary) with one or more courts' decision(s).

Your specious arguments aside, it may prove difficult to defend (in many opinions) the indefensible. The bottom line is that the court(s) will decide the future of our president...not you, me or any other individual citizen. The result will be as it always has been: We will live with the decision reached by a court of law. As stated earlier, someone is always unhappy with any court decision. Not surprisingly, it is only and/or always when decisions go against their political or ideological persuasion. C'est la vie

It often seems that nothing, absolutely nothing, can be said or written to convince zealots from either side of the ideological or political persuasion of facts they absolutely refuse to believe. One may as well attempt pi**ing on a raging forest fire in a futile effort to put it out. A valiant effort is of no avail.

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May 23, 2019 13:35:36   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
JoyV wrote:
The only official Trump merchandise is sold from https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/?utm_medium=ad&utm_source=dp_googlesearch&utm_campaign=20190514_store_djt_tmagacmerch_ocpmypur_bh_audience0001_na_copy00058_us_b_18-99_gsn_all_na_lp0001_shop_conversion_search_na_na_na&utm_content=sto&gclid=CjwKCAjwiZnnBRBQEiwAcWKfYrJ8g66zN6p4giE5lAbHDPsf-md2rm0UOVEQdYeHRL5Jb2WJGrBZYBoC5gIQAvD_BwE

Other labeled Trump merchandise is made outside of the US and NOT sold by anyone associated with Trump. If you have any site to Ivanka or Kellyanne selling merchandise from a government site, please post the link.
The only official Trump merchandise is sold from h... (show quote)

Here's what I found with a quick search. The second link has numerous sites listed.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/whitehouse-promoting-melania-trumps-qvc-products/

https://www.bing.com/search?q=ivankapromotingongovernmentsite&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=04c215b34edd424bbee770ab0d0ed698&cc=US&setlang=en-US&PC=HCTS

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May 23, 2019 13:53:09   #
woodguru
 
archie bunker wrote:
Can't get who to read it? The democrats? I've read it, and I see nothing that points to obstruction. There is also nothing there that doesn't plainly say that there was no obstruction. It was worded, and tailored to cause the fight that's going on now.


Telling white house counsel to lie about something he told him to do, to tell him to say he hadn't done that when he had, further telling said counsel to change the official record to reflect that alteration...

There doesn't have to be a crime, the intent of obstructing an investigation is a crime. It is said as a truism, lying about the obstruction is worse than the crime. McGahn easily proves intent of obstruction, and trying to get him to lie about it, all contributing to a prosecutable crime of obstruction. Trying to get McGahn to lie is obstruction.

Mueller said he couldn't prosecute for obstruction, not that there weren't the crimes, but that congress could be the judge.

900 prosecutors have signed a letter stating that they could successfully prosecute Trump based on the evidence listed in Mueller's report. There are at least five solid instances that make easy prosecutions of anyone who isn't the president, which means he has to be impeached so he can then be prosecuted.

It was worded and tailored to be used by congress as a road map for impeachment, and you doubt that Barr redacted far more damaging information than was released? You would be outraged if a report on Obama were redacted to take out the really damaging things.

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May 23, 2019 13:55:24   #
woodguru
 
slatten49 wrote:
Respectfully, Radiance, I am amused by your thinking the link's cut'n paste is my legal opinion...especially since I have no legal standing in the matter, whether I agree or not to what the court's decision was in this case. My opinion notwithstanding, this was simply a FOX article explaining a legal ruling with which you and others obviously do not agree. You may join the many others of us that have disagreed (at all levels of the judiciary) with one or more courts' decision(s).

Your specious arguments aside, it may prove difficult to defend (in many opinions) the indefensible. The bottom line is that the court(s) will decide the future of our president...not you, me or any other individual citizen. The result will be as it always has been: We will live with the decision reached by a court of law. As stated earlier, someone is always unhappy with any court decision. Not surprisingly, it is only and/or always when decisions go against their political or ideological persuasion. C'est la vie

It often seems that nothing, absolutely nothing, can be said or written to convince zealots from either side of the ideological or political persuasion of facts they absolutely refuse to believe. One may as well attempt pi**ing on a raging forest fire in a futile effort to put it out. A valiant effort is of no avail.
Respectfully, Radiance, I am amused by your thinki... (show quote)


The right has no regard for the rule of law if they don't agree with it, they think courts should blindly side with Trump, just because.

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May 23, 2019 14:08:08   #
woodguru
 
Radiance3 wrote:
===================
Slatten, I think your legal position on this matter is wrong.
I am about to leave, but can't stand this assault on the innocent Trump. I have to defend it. Here is the situation Slatten.

Proper legal procedure here is: First they must identify the problem committed by president Trump. Next stage is subpoena or demand surrender of the documents to review and to prove the case.

But because Congress h**e president Trump so much, they identified the victim first, who is president Trump. That is wrong!! If this process continues, and prevails, it is not only president Trump who will be deprived of his legal rights. It will be carried forward in the long run to incoming presidents at the Executive Branch. The Executive Branch is stripped out of its power, and the ability to protect and to function is disabled.

What Congress must follow to make it valid:
1. First, identify the crime or problem committed. [NOT THE PERSON THEY ACCUSE OF]
2 Next, seek all documents, or witnesses that could support the validity of the crime.
Here comes the fishing expedition:
3. When documents have proven the identified problem, then Congress could go ahead and pursue its investigation. Best channel is to refer to SC.
4. The Office of the Executive Branch have equal balanced rights with Congress, and SC.
5. The Executive Office must be respected, same with the other branches.
6. President Trump has executive privileges not to disclose or display documents sought by Congress unless there is a specific problem the president is accused of.
7. All US citizens by the power of the Constitution Amendment IV, is protected from illegal searches, demands, or scrutiny of the person's personal affairs is unlawful, unless there is specified problem presented, on the victim accused of.


What Congress is doing is plain assault and harassment against president Trump.
Pelosi's big mouth must be shut off. Congress has now prepared coordinated efforts to prevent the president from winning the 2020 p**********l e******n. But that will not happen. God will protect the president to prevent the t***sformation of our country, by removing God from us. Morals deteriorate further, baby k*****gs will increase, L**T will increase it's demands, Muslims will increase, Atheists will increase, etc.

Now, Congress is jumping up and down, due to Obama's appointed federal judge's decision. but I am confident, they will not prevail to remove the president. SC will review this.

Scrutiny of the president's papers and documents supporting his financial activities and Tax Returns, without specific problem identified first is wrong, and must be defended vigorously because it is the law. I suggest refer the matter to the SC.

Obama's appointed judge, I believe did not do his job, but for political aggrandizement of Democrats in Congress, against the sitting president. Mr. President is duly elected by 63 million citizens of this country, with 304 E*******l College V**es. Illegal removal of president Trump disenfranchises the 63 million v**ers. Congress will make all our 2016 v**es null and void. Wrong verdict.
=================== br b Slatten, I think your le... (show quote)


What congress is doing is what congress should have been doing two years ago but they were turning a blind eye, and that includes their lame attempts to look like they were investigating anything. They refused to follow leads, call people before their committees, allowed them to refuse to answer, refused to hold anyone accountable for perjury, buried evidence that made Trump look bad, repeatedly ran straight to the white house with classified information "they thought the president needed to know".

It isn't the job of congress to give Trump free passes on overreach. He should have immediately and aggressively been held accountable for using family in key positions. He should have been held accountable for the lease on the Trump hotel in a government building being a violation of the lease laws regarding conflicts of interest. Trump went on to immediately dispute values that affect the lease terms.

It is the job of congress to hold Trump and the administration accountable, and to enact laws that control abuses so they don't happen again. Trump cannot obstruct their ability to oversee the executive.

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