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May 22, 2019 01:20:56   #
JoyV
 
archie bunker wrote:
Once again, Mr. Expert.
Name the statutes that he is in violation of. Those would be laws, and they have numbers, and specifics.

Name them. Or shut up.


I second that request!!!!!

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May 22, 2019 01:24:20   #
JoyV
 
son of witless wrote:
I am curious. did you bother to v**e in your state's primary today ? I did. It was a curious thing that does not necessarily foretell anything. However, in my tiny little town, they had two terminals set up for v****g. One for Republicans and one for Democrats. I did not know that at the time and I h**e waiting in line for anything. In general e******ns you can use either terminal when it is empty.

Anywho, when I came in both v****g terminals were occupied. There was a woman waiting for an empty terminal ahead of me. They told the both of us that we were number twos which I did not grasp at the time. So anyway, terminal one opened up, but the woman did not go over to it. Then I asked if I could use it, and that is when they explained that Terminal number one was only set up for Democrats. They said that if I really could not wait they could set it up for me to v**e Republican, but I declined. Terminal Two opened up and the woman ahead of me v**ed.

It took her a fair amount of time to decide, no doubt because so many local offices were up for v****g. Anyway, as I waited and people piled up behind me, the Democrat machine remained empty. I finally v**ed and left, and still no democrats. Probably means nothing at all.
I am curious. did you bother to v**e in your state... (show quote)


You must have missed civic class in high school. A primary e******n is to elect the candidate for your party. Hence you can only v**e for a candidate within your own party.

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May 22, 2019 01:29:01   #
JoyV
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I read it. No indictments issued for obstruction, therefore no prosecution for obstruction, therefore no possibility of conviction.

Intellectual Poverty on the Left

Arrogance is no substitute for intellectual humility.
by Ron Ross
May 21, 2019, 12:06 AM

You may have noticed that conservatives are blessed with an impressive lineup of intellectual heavyweights. Liberals have none, literally none. A few of those on the conservative side are Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson, Dennis Prager, Shelby Steele, Jordon Peterson, and Mark Levin.

Thomas Sowell is an economist, ex-Marine, Hoover Institution scholar, and the author of over 30 books. If you’ve never read one you don’t know what you’re missing. Two of his classics are Knowledge and Decisions and The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy. He is well known for his many pearls of wisdom which he terms, “random thoughts on the passing scene.” Those now can be found on Twitter.

Jordon Peterson is a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto and Hillsdale College. He is best known for his book 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos. Several million copies have been sold. It was even a number-one bestseller in Sweden. If you read that book you will understand life better, and if you follow the rules you will be a better person. The book is nothing short of a masterpiece.

Jordan Peterson is possibly the wisest man alive. Fortunately for the rest of us he shares his wisdom through his books, interviews, podcasts, and seminars. Peterson is despised by the left. That says much more about them than him.

Besides his columns, daily radio show, and books, Dennis Prager is the founder and frequent contributor to Prager University. Prager U presents concise, thoughtful five-minute lectures on a weekly basis, and recently reached a milestone of two billion views. His latest book is The Rational Bible: Genesis.

Victor Davis Hanson is a former professor of classical Greek history and is also a scholar at the Hoover Institution. He writes columns usually once or twice a week and appears on Fox News about as often. The amount of logic and historical perspective he includes in his columns is mind-boggling. His latest book is The Case for Trump.

Mark Levin is founder of the Landmark Legal Foundation, the author of several best-selling books, host of a daily radio show and a weekly hour-long interview show on Fox News. His just published book, Unfreedom of the Press, is the number one best seller on Amazon. Levin never leaves you wondering what he believes.

Shelby Steele is another scholar at the Hoover Institution and the author of The Content of Our Character: A New Vision of Race in America, and Shame: How America’s Past Sins Have Polarized Our Country. His essays appear regularly on the Wall Street Journal op-ed pages.

You cannot name a single liberal who has anything approaching the above credentials or intellectual output. Why? There are a number of reasons.

Liberalism is fundamentally about feelings rather than thoughts. Also the left focuses on intentions, the right focuses on results and the ways by which results are achieved.

An advantage of making intentions your goal is that once you choose and announce them, you’re done. No need to follow up to see if your intentions were realized. No need to consider second or third order effects.

Leftism is about force, conservatism is about freedom and voluntary exchange. The use of force needs no theory or ideology. Anyone willing to rely on force to accomplish his or her objectives doesn’t really need to understand how the world works.

The mindset of the writers listed above reflects what is written in Ecclesiastes, “And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven… and I gave my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly.”

The foremost source of the left’s intellectual poverty is arrogance. Arrogance k**ls curiosity. Those on the left feel they already know all they need to know. They have nothing left to learn or to bother thinking deeply about. Ironically, they feel intellectually superior to conservatives.

A prerequisite for being a serious thinker is curiosity. It requires being curious about how things work — society, the economy, human nature, for example. Curiosity is the incentive for doing the hard work of study and serious thought.

The left also feels morally superior to any of our predecessors. Conservatives, on the other hand, possess a deep respect and reverence for the wisdom we’ve inherited from, for example, the Greeks, the Bible, Shakespeare, and the Founding Fathers.

Isaac Newton famously said, “If I have seen further than others, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Even Newton needed to know what those preceding him had discovered. On the left there’s no gratitude for the wisdom endowed to us by our forebears. Rather than gratitude there’s disdain, another reflection of their arrogance.

The opposite of arrogance is humility. As Isaac Newton also recognized, “What we know is a drop, what we don’t know is an ocean.”

A 2018 study reported in the Journal of Positive Psychology entitled “Links Between Intellectual Humility and Acquiring Knowledge” found that Intellectual humility (IH)

was associated with a variety of characteristics associated with knowledge acquisition, including reflective thinking, need for cognition, intellectual engagement, curiosity, intellectual openness, and open-minded thinking.… These links may help explain the observed relationship between IH and possessing more knowledge.

The entire study, by Elizabeth Krumrei-Mancuso, Megan Haggard et al., is worth reading.

As long as the left holds on to its arrogance it will never match the richness of the right’s intellectual offerings. It’s another reason why being a conservative is a whole lot more fun than being a liberal.
I read it. No indictments issued for obstruction, ... (show quote)



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May 22, 2019 01:34:10   #
PeterS
 
woodguru wrote:
https://dmlnewsapp.com/breaking-judge-upholds-dem-subpoena-trump-financial-records/

What's ironic is that I saw a clip where Trump was claiming to be the law and order candidate and it's he who is snubbing his nose at the rule of law.

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May 22, 2019 01:43:39   #
JoyV
 
PeterS wrote:
What's ironic is that I saw a clip where Trump was claiming to be the law and order candidate and it's he who is snubbing his nose at the rule of law.


WHAT LAW is he snubbing?????

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May 22, 2019 01:53:41   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
PeterS wrote:
What's ironic is that I saw a clip where Trump was claiming to be the law and order candidate and it's he who is snubbing his nose at the rule of law.


This is why the left doesn't understand anything. They subscribe to the progressive notion of a "Living Constitution." They redefine everything written in the Constitution by applying today's definitions of words to those same words used in the 18th-century. Or they completely invent new words and definitions and use them to build a case for their warped perspective of what they think the meaning of the Constitution should be! Very Orwellian.

Would you know what rule-of-law is if it bit you in the derriere?

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May 22, 2019 04:39:02   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Congress does not have plenary power over the Executive Branch. Moreover, congress has no constitutional authority to investigate or subpoena a president's financial records or business t***sactions when he was a private citizen. Congress has only one option-impeachment. And the articles of impeachment must be based on actions the POTUS has taken WHILE IN OFFICE. If actions of the POTUS prior to taking office can be connected with sufficient legal proof directly to his actions while in office, these may be considered.

Bottom line, congress is not a law enforcement agency. Congress doesn’t enforce tax or business fraud laws. There are scores of executive branch agencies, federal and state, with that responsibility. What’s happening isn’t a constitutional crisis, it’s a HOR clown act.
Congress does not have plenary power over the Exec... (show quote)

Still, at it I see. I image that's why the judge ruled that Trump's financial records are fair game. Is this what one of your giant brains told you Blade? Who was it, Levin? I'll bet it was. Here's a hypothetical. Suppose a p**********l candidate were to have used money laundering as one of the means to finance his operations. Your argument is that because the action occurred prior to his e******n all of his financial actions are off limits. So according to you, or I should say the giant brain that programmed your tiny little brain, there can be no recourse and we have to be content having a crook for a president. So is that what those giant brains tell you was how the founders designed the constitution?

Now I don't know if Trump is guilty of money laundering but that is one of the charges stemming from Deutsche Bank that haven't even been investigated yet, even though a whistleblower has stated that there was something hinky with both Tump and Kirshners financial dealing with the bank.

Snip>>Deutsche Bank Has Rolled on Donald Trump

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May 22, 2019 04:41:35   #
PeterS
 
dtucker300 wrote:
This is why the left doesn't understand anything. They subscribe to the progressive notion of a "Living Constitution." They redefine everything written in the Constitution by applying today's definitions of words to those same words used in the 18th-century. Or they completely invent new words and definitions and use them to build a case for their warped perspective of what they think the meaning of the Constitution should be! Very Orwellian.

Would you know what rule-of-law is if it bit you in the derriere?
This is why the left doesn't understand anything. ... (show quote)

Well clearly I know more than you do and since the rulings are going against Trump more than he does too. This is actually getting to be fun. First, it was like having your teeth pulled but knowing that Trump isn't above the law it's worth waiting to watch the domino's fall...

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May 22, 2019 08:01:53   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Does anyone know who wrote this or where it came from? I can't verify the original source and it came to me by email back some time ago. It might be BS. However, I do know some of these items to be factually true.



ALL DOTS CONNECTED...

Let’s follow the trail...... Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important......
Here's what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together. It smells like conspiracy and treason.
Let’s follow the trail...... Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important......
Here's what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together. It smells like conspiracy and treason.


From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

A Grand Jury had been impaneled.

Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”.

Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared.

Hmmm, now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.

Guess who took over this investigation in 2002?

Bet you can’t guess.

None other than James Comey.

Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?




Guess who was t***sferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS?

Your friend and mine, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner.

Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?




It gets better, well not really, but this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?

Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?

No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.

Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?

Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?

I know, it’s a miracle, just a coincidence, just an anomaly in statistics and chances, but it was Robert Mueller.




What do all four casting characters have in common?

They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.

Now that’s just a coincidence, right?

Ok, lets chalk the last one up to mere chance.




Let’s fast forward to 2009......

James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.

Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, on her own personal email server, by the way.

The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of Hillary.

Like all good public servants do, you know - looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians.

Now, you would think that this is a fairly straight-up deal, except that it wasn’t: The People got absolutely nothing out of it.

However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech, then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.




Ok, no big deal right?

Well, not so fast: the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.

Guess who was the FBI Director during this time?

Yep, Robert Mueller.

He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.

Guess who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?

No other than, Rod Rosenstein.




Guess what happened to the informant?

The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.

How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole, providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?




Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?

~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.




Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division?

No other than, Lois Lerner.

Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences. Nothing to see here, right?




Let’s fast forward to 2015.

Due to a series of tragic events in B******i and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on B******i discovers that The Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.

He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law.

He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email. ( Let's not forget - at least 10 CIA spies in china were k**led by the Chinese because of the leaks, and god knows what else occurred )

Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary.




Now this is amazing: guess who became FBI Director in 2013?

Guess who secured 17 no-bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer?

No other than James Comey.

Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?

Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her.

Nope.... couldn’t find any crimes there.




Can you guess what happened next?

In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.

They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury.

Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Comey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 5th of 2016, and exonerates The Hillary from any wrongdoing.

Can you see the pattern?

It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.

FISA Abuse, political espionage.... pick a crime, any crime, chances are...... this group and a few others did it.

All the same players.

All c*********d and conflicted.

All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves.

All connected in one way or another to the Clintons.

They are like battery acid, they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.

How many lives have these two destroyed?

As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.

Let us not forget that Comey's brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation's taxes.

And see, the person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton!


WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?

Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.

Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller.

Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.

Lawrence also represented:

Robert Mueller three times;

James Comey five times;

Barack Obama 45 times;

Kathleen Sebelius 56 times;

Bill Clinton 40 times; and

Hillary Clinton 17 times.

Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.

You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman?

Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?).

Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.

Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health.

This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.

It’s a cover, so big deal, right? I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter?

It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.

Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?


BECAUSE….

She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE….That’s why!!
Does anyone know who wrote this or where it came f... (show quote)

I believe it is originally from an internet blog. I do know that Eagleye13 has re-posted it, ad nauseam.

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May 22, 2019 08:17:27   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Since you've started responding to the other postings it sure has become quiet on here. I can hear crickets!

Why bother Minds are set.

An old sayin' comes to mind..."You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink."

Both sides of an argument often face the int***sigence and/or incorrigibility of the other.

From Mark Twain: "The rule is perfect. In matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane."

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May 22, 2019 12:41:08   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
PeterS wrote:
Well clearly I know more than you do and since the rulings are going against Trump more than he does too. This is actually getting to be fun. First, it was like having your teeth pulled but knowing that Trump isn't above the law it's worth waiting to watch the domino's fall...


"...but knowing that Trump isn't above the law it's worth waiting to watch the domino's [sic] fall..."
Yes, it is!

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May 22, 2019 12:43:04   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
slatten49 wrote:
Why bother Minds are set.

An old sayin' comes to mind..."You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink."

Both sides of an argument often face the int***sigence and/or incorrigibility of the other.

From Mark Twain: "The rule is perfect. In matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane."
Why bother img src="https://static.onepoliticalpla... (show quote)



Mine isn't.

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May 22, 2019 12:43:58   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
slatten49 wrote:
I believe it is originally from an internet blog. I do know that Eagleye13 has re-posted it, ad nauseam.


Hmmm....

Thanks.

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May 22, 2019 16:40:04   #
woodguru
 
dtucker300 wrote:
"...but knowing that Trump isn't above the law it's worth waiting to watch the domino's [sic] fall..."
Yes, it is!


https://dmlnewsapp.com/breaking-judge-decides-deutsche-bank-capital-one-can-give-trump-financial-records-democrats/

It's a b***h being on the wrong side of the law

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May 22, 2019 16:42:04   #
woodguru
 
slatten49 wrote:
Why bother Minds are set.

An old sayin' comes to mind..."You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink."

Both sides of an argument often face the int***sigence and/or incorrigibility of the other.

From Mark Twain: "The rule is perfect. In matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane."
Why bother img src="https://static.onepoliticalpla... (show quote)


You can impeach but you can't make the right understand why?

Nothing in the report, but you can't get them to read it and see that there actually is?

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