dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

The Chinese had to adapt to the capitalistic system economically. They only began to do this after Mao was gone. North Korea is still stuck on stupid because they have their revered leader. China is still politically a one-party system of elites not willing to give up power (kind of like are l*****t groups, i.e. our Democratic party). Sociologically, society will gain more freedom and power leading to ever greater demands for freedom and power as they become more economically independent from the ruling class.

What brought down the Soviet Union? Most people think the U.S. caused the USSR to spend themselves into bankruptcy by trying to keep up with U.S. military defense spending. Also, their own Vietnam in Afghanistan didn't help. These were all factors in their demise. But it was Rock and Roll Music that was the straw that broke the Camel's back. Young people wanted to listen to and emulate western music to the point of having their own underground clubs and their own bands. The c*******t party tried to regulate this by building clubs for youth where the party could monitor their activities and regulate the music they could listen to. You can't keep them down on the farm forever. The themes of Rock and Roll, rebellious disobedience to the established social order was the revolutionary truculent alienation, a generation gap, yearning for more freedom and liberty; the very things Russian youths wanted, and eventually, they won over because the party was losing the hearts and minds of the youth. The writing was on the wall and Gorbachev understood it better than most of the ruling old guard.

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Rumi,

You contradict your own argument, and you do that by minimizing and trivializing the first commandment by elevating the second over it.

“..."Which commandment is the greatest of all?" 29Jesus answered, "The greatest is, 'Hear, Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one: 30you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' This is the first commandment... 32The scribe said to him, "Truly, teacher, you have said well that he {first person singular present indicative} is one {“a cardinal numeral, one. Used: 1. universally, a. in opposed to many” -Thayer’s Greek Lexicon}, and there is none other but he {Genitive Masculine 3rd Person Singular}, 33and to love him {Accusative Masculine 3rd Person Singular} with all the heart, and with all the understanding, with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more important than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices." 34When Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, "You are not far from the Kingdom of God." No one dared ask him any question after that.” Mark 12:28-34

“{Jesus} said, "Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may also glorify you; 3This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ... 22The glory which you have given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, even as we are one; 23I in them, and you in me, that they may be perfected into one; that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you loved me. 24Father, I desire that they also whom you have given me be with me where I am, that they may see my glory, which you have given me, for you loved me before the foundation of the world. 25Righteous Father, the world hasn't known you, but I knew you; and these knew that you sent me.” John 17:1-3, 22-25

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

It only takes two scriptures and one question to totally refute the false Trinity h**x, and having done that, it only takes three more scriptures to prove Trinitarians are blind, disobedient and accursed:

“You worship what you do not know; We know what we worship for salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22).

“..."Which commandment is the greatest of all?" 29Jesus answered, "The greatest is, 'Hear, Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one: 30you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' This is the first commandment... 32The scribe said to him, "Truly, teacher, you have said well that he {first person singular present indicative} is one {“a cardinal numeral, one. Used: 1. universally, a. in opposed to many” -Thayer’s Greek Lexicon}, and there is none other but he {Genitive Masculine 3rd Person Singular}, 33and to love him {Accusative Masculine 3rd Person Singular} with all the heart, and with all the understanding, with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more important than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices." 34When Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, "You are not far from the Kingdom of God." No one dared ask him any question after that.” Mark 12:28-34

The question Trinitarians can’t answer, and therefore must avoid and denigrate at all costs at any length: What scripture teaches (expounds in detail) or preaches (openly proclaims), without adding to or taking away from the word of God, that “God is three persons in one essence”?

“6I marvel that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of The Anointed One to a different "good news"; 7and there isn't another "good news." Only there are some who trouble you, and want to pervert the Good News of The Anointed One. 8But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you any "good news" other than that which we preached to you, let him be cursed. 9As we have said before, so I now say again: if any man preaches to you any "good news" other than that which you received, let him be cursed.” Galatians 1:6-9

“As I urged you when I was going into Macedonia, stay at Ephesus that you might command certain men not to teach a different doctrine.” 1 Timothy 1:3

“3Even if our Good News is veiled, it is veiled in those who perish; 4in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of The Anointed One, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them. 5For we don't preach ourselves, but The Anointed One Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake; 6seeing it is God who said, "Light will shine out of darkness," who has shone in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus The Anointed One.” 2 Corinthians 4:3-6

The apostles, being Jews, had absolutely no idea of the concept of “a Trinity of persons in one essence”, it being developed after their departure, with the exception of John, who encountered it among the antichristian Gnostics and wrote condemning it in his epistles. It was not the Trinity h**x for which they hazarded their lives to save people’s souls. Wherefore, you Trinitarians just keep on displaying your spiritual blindness, and your determination to perpetuate antichristian h**xes, born from your disobedience to the first commandment and the gospel of Jesus the Anointed One!

Rose42

Indeed you worship what you do not know.

Earlier you said you renounced Oneness yet on your old website you have "studies" on it. Have you renounced it recently then?

"Studies on the Doctrine of the Oneness of God in the name of Jesus Christ"

You also present a bible "study" which claims -

"The above Bible study, along with presenting the true, basic, foundational doctrines of Christianity, also proposes that most of current "Christianity" is in error!"

Yes or no?

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Provide the url

Rose42

No problem. Its on the internet archive.

http://www.1lord1faith.org/wm/studies/index.htm

Here are a couple of the pages. The heading of your home page is "Watchmen on the Wall" and the first file is where you claim most of Christianity is in error and it shows you as the author.

"This Home Page, and the articles within, have been written by Tom Raddatz"

The second contains - "Studies on the Doctrine of the Oneness of God in the name of Jesus Christ"

Attached file:
(Download)

Attached file:
(Download)

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

“Internet archive”

Click on the link to 1lord1faith and here’s what you get:

ERROR: This site is unreachable
Please click HERE to go back...

There’s your answer.

Would you like me to dig up all your past sins and use them against you?

How about we discount the apostle Paul’s testimony because he was complicit in murdering Christians.

So, these are your best responses: deflections and false accusations.

Rose42

Do you deny this was your website? I can pull up snapshots. Do you really want to go there?

Here's a snapshot of the internet archive.

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Of course I don’t deny it. It’s past history.

If you want to see some of my recent stuff, try my YouTube channel, 1lord1faithPublishing:
https://youtu.be/hpj9fH1dYn0

You sound to me like the l*****ts who can’t deal with Trump’s message of making America Great again and draining the swamp and antisocialism so they resort to ad hominems and never deal with the corruption in their own midst, just coverups and deflection and projecting.

For someone who said they wouldn’t read my posts, you’ve sure spent a lot of time researching my past. That’s fine, I have nothing to hide. I’ve been open about who I am and what I have believed and how I got to where I’m at. You’re the one who demands questions but refuses to answer any posed to you.

“For they bind heavy burdens that are grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not lift a finger to help them.” Matthew 23:4

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Will check out the Youtube site this Friday or Saturday...

Looking forward to it

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I am still confused...

Why go after the messenger instead of the argument?

If most of Christianity believes in the Trinity, would that not mean that it is in error? (from a certain point of view )

Rose42

I spent very little time - took less than 15 minutes.

You still think most of current Christianity is in error? Christianity hasn’t changed.

Your questions were answered. You refuse to acknowledge it. And no you weren’t open about it which is why I looked in the first place.

Rose42

You’re confused. Sure. He was not open about his background so I looked. His church has added its own twist to the doctrine of salvation which nullifies it.

Every now and then new false teachers pop up claiming to have discovered a new t***h or bring new life to old false teaching. Even during Paul’s time there was dissension.

All Christians know God has a triune nature not ‘most’. Investigating any that don’t believe it always leads to more false doctrine.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

What is the twist?
How does it nullify it?
That is intesting...

[]quoteEvery now and then new false teachers pop up claiming to have discovered a new t***h or bring new life to old false teaching. Even during Paul’s time there was dissension.[/quote]

Good to know people aren't complacent...



Nope... Sorry... There seem to be quite a few who don't accept the Trinity...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Tommy spoke of his background earlier in the thread...

Did you miss it?