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May 7, 2019 13:00:55   #
JediKnight
 
Tommy posted; "What I think is absurd is for a l*****t-liberal to hijack biblical t***hs and claim the Bible supports l*****t ideas, like belittling or delegitimizing the fact that God is always portrayed in a male role, and the reason that is so."

ANYONE who hijacks biblical t***h to use improperly is wrong....what does being a liberal have to do with it? Unless you're saying that "only liberals" distort biblical scripture......

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May 7, 2019 13:08:52   #
Rose42
 
kemmer wrote:
Nah, just the stupid ones.


Zemirah had it right. You h**e them too it would appear.

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May 7, 2019 13:16:14   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
JediKnight wrote:
yet Trump claims to be Christian.....and nearly 40% of the country claim to love him.


I wonder if you and kemmer really know anything about being a Christian !

Yes Trump has had a pretty sinful life however to you dismay he and or anyone can become a Christian and have all that sin removed from the and have a new heart and thus walk with the Lord there after !

Then there folks such as you and kemmer that can't see that because you have your idea that Christians are to be perfect because of their wicked pass which by the way neither are you two but rather point out ones pass sins not know that God doesn't hold it against them any more !

I realize I might as well be talking to a brick wall since you all haven't any understanding about such matters !

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May 7, 2019 13:23:36   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
JediKnight wrote:


ANYONE who hijacks biblical t***h to use improperly is wrong....what does being a liberal have to do with it? Unless you're saying that "only liberals" distort biblical scripture......


Anyone can use Biblical t***h wrong , however if one looks at the liberal mindset it's pretty easy to tell where they stand !

Nancy Pelosi says they are doing Gods work in a******n and thus at last count stopped the bill for the 35th time that Dr's have to provide care to babies born alive after a botched a******n !

The list can go on and on !

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May 7, 2019 15:37:32   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
JediKnight wrote:
Tommy posted; "What I think is absurd is for a l*****t-liberal to hijack biblical t***hs and claim the Bible supports l*****t ideas, like belittling or delegitimizing the fact that God is always portrayed in a male role, and the reason that is so."

ANYONE who hijacks biblical t***h to use improperly is wrong....what does being a liberal have to do with it? Unless you're saying that "only liberals" distort biblical scripture......


You’re right that anyone who hijacks biblical t***h s wrong. I was responding in line with the original post, rather than in general, like you are. I don’t know any conservative Christians who have a problem with God being a male and a father, it is only l*****t liberals that I know of who do.

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May 7, 2019 16:18:09   #
JediKnight
 
4430 wrote:
I wonder if you and kemmer really know anything about being a Christian !

Yes Trump has had a pretty sinful life however to you dismay he and or anyone can become a Christian and have all that sin removed from the and have a new heart and thus walk with the Lord there after !

Then there folks such as you and kemmer that can't see that because you have your idea that Christians are to be perfect because of their wicked pass which by the way neither are you two but rather point out ones pass sins not know that God doesn't hold it against them any more !

I realize I might as well be talking to a brick wall since you all haven't any understanding about such matters !
I wonder if you and kemmer really know anything ab... (show quote)


4430: I beg to differ with you. Yes, true repentence and asking forgiveness from God cleanses our past sins. However, your boy "deliberately sins" every time he utters another lie or f**e news as the t***h. Each time Jesus forgave a sinner in scriptures, He always admonished them to "go and sin no more." Trump obviously believes he can skip over that part. sad. He can play his games with us and the media, but you can't fool God. Read Galatians 6 - "God is not mocked -wh**ever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." If Trump was anything close to a real Christian, he would repent of his sins, and just as important -do his best to change his behavior. God is not fickle like we humans can be. With God, you can't "pretend" to be Christian and think that's all it takes. "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven." Let that marinate for a minute.

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May 7, 2019 16:20:16   #
JediKnight
 
TommyRadd wrote:
You’re right that anyone who hijacks biblical t***h s wrong. I was responding in line with the original post, rather than in general, like you are. I don’t know any conservative Christians who have a problem with God being a male and a father, it is only l*****t liberals that I know of who do.


You would probably consider me a "l*****t liberal" and I know without any doubt that God is Spirit and refers to himself as "He." Please don't assume that "all liberals" think or feel the same way...many are indeed capable of independent thought!

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May 7, 2019 16:40:13   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Kevyn wrote:
God is t*********r

Did He tell you that?

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May 7, 2019 19:07:23   #
rumitoid
 
TommyRadd wrote:
As I’ve pointed out earlier, Prager’s Point of view is Jewish. His topic was not “salvation”, rather, it was why God is always spoken of as a male/father figure.

Your question to Blade was, “what is the purpose of salvation?” where did Prager bring this concept into his points on why God is spoken of as male? Did you listen to the video?
If your answer to Blade is going to follow along that same Topic, then fine, have it your way. I was just expressing my opinion.

I don’t think Prager’s goals are absurd whatsoever, I just don’t think they are complete. And, as I’ve stated, one of his 3 basic assumptions does not appear to me to be legitimate.

What I think is absurd is for a l*****t-liberal to hijack biblical t***hs and claim the Bible supports l*****t ideas, like belittling or delegitimizing the fact that God is always portrayed in a male role, and the reason that is so.
As I’ve pointed out earlier, Prager’s Point of vie... (show quote)


If you paid attention to what I said, you would not be asking me if I watched the video. Prager did not portray biblical t***hs and I never said or even hinted the Bible supports l*****t ideas; again pay attention. I was showing that Prager's false "Bible goals" were l*****t ideas, what secular Utopians claim is possible through man's efforts.

Also, I made no comment whatsoever about the fact that God is always portrayed in a male role--which makes it impossible for me to have belittled or de-legitimize it.

Prager's topic may not have been salvation but as that is the goal of scripture--not a kinder, less violent, and more just world--it should have been. But I have come to expect little or no understanding from you guys that stereotype liberals as Christ-h**ers and refuse to listen to reason.

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May 7, 2019 19:20:23   #
rumitoid
 
4430 wrote:
My guess the reason you think Prager comment "" goals of the Bible "" is Scripturally flawed is the fact that you may have never read the Scriptures or if you have read done so to convince yourself that it's flawed !

It may be the fact that you're not really reading it to learn the t***h that God put there !

I doubt there is anyone who can explain Salvation to you that would satisfy you because I really don't think you have the desire to know the real t***h but rather keep posting you conclusions to bait folks of Faith !
My guess the reason you think Prager comment "... (show quote)


You make a lot of negative assumptions. Why? What do you gain by such pettiness? Why not ask me to show my understanding of scripture for you to judge if I speak the t***h? I'll do it anyway.

We have been given the gift of salvation (not by any works that we may boast) so that we might love, glorify, and proclaim Christ to others (and not to make a kinder, less violent, and more just world world as the humanists believe is possible through their own efforts).
Through the inspiration of God’s Spirit, Peter puts it this way: “Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy” (1 Peter 2:10). And this is in order “that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light” (1 Peter 2:9). God's purpose for salvation and our purpose on earth is to glorify God in all we think, say, and do. Amen.

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May 7, 2019 19:42:40   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
In terms of this whole thread ... Matthew 6.6 says:

"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."
Your religion is your business, and has no place in the public square. And to those that claim to know or speak for God, I have no respect for you, since you cannot possibly know the mind of God ... even the most devout practitioner of any religion can't argue that. If they do, it is emanations of a fool.
My point here ... I get really tired of people telling me that I'm a sinner and the only way to 'salvation' is through their particular brand of religion. Each brand claims ultimate authority on the subject and denigrates all the others. That leads to the ultimate conclusion that none of them really know what they're talking about.
I expect major flames for this, but prove me wrong with factual evidence, not based on biblical text or other writings without verification. I'm waiting.

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May 7, 2019 19:55:20   #
Rose42
 
whitnebrat wrote:
In terms of this whole thread ... Matthew 6.6 says:

"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."
Your religion is your business, and has no place in the public square. And to those that claim to know or speak for God, I have no respect for you, since you cannot possibly know the mind of God ... even the most devout practitioner of any religion can't argue that. If they do, it is emanations of a fool.
My point here ... I get really tired of people telling me that I'm a sinner and the only way to 'salvation' is through their particular brand of religion. Each brand claims ultimate authority on the subject and denigrates all the others. That leads to the ultimate conclusion that none of them really know what they're talking about.
I expect major flames for this, but prove me wrong with factual evidence, not based on biblical text or other writings without verification. I'm waiting.
In terms of this whole thread ... Matthew 6.6 says... (show quote)


You use biblical text but don't want anyone to use biblical text in their answer?

Matthew 28:19–20 - “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

To know God you have to read the bible. Its a constant learning process and no one will know all of him, we can only know what our finite minds can grasp.

“So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the Word of Christ.” - Romans 10:17

"For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart." -Hebrews 4:12

Others are far more erudite than I.

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May 7, 2019 20:02:36   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
Rose42 wrote:
You use biblical text but don't want anyone to use biblical text in their answer?

Matthew 28:19–20 - “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

To know God you have to read the bible. Its a constant learning process and no one will know all of him, we can only know what our finite minds can grasp.

“So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the Word of Christ.” - Romans 10:17

"For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart." -Hebrews 4:12
You use biblical text but don't want anyone to use... (show quote)

I am pointing out that since there are so many conflicting viewpoints even within the Bible itself, that it is difficult to discern the real t***h, and until there is a way of discerning that t***h, all brands of religion are suspect. As for evangelizing, I've had to kick Mormon missionaries off my porch, and Jehovah's Witnesses down the front stairs because they refused to leave. They all believe that they are in the right, and nobody else has the ultimate road to salvation (wh**ever that is, depending on your dogma.) The whole thing is subjective without any factual proof. If you choose to believe in one brand or another, that's up to you, just leave me out of the equation.

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May 7, 2019 20:04:03   #
Morgan
 
bahmer wrote:
Please watch the video before posting thanks.

https://youtu.be/6YXzywDWc1k


I'll agree with no g****r for God, the rest, is based on our social conditioning with women being suppressed by men and the largest tool to promote that ideology is the Bible, created by men. Go figure

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May 7, 2019 20:08:02   #
Rose42
 
whitnebrat wrote:
I am pointing out that since there are so many conflicting viewpoints even within the Bible itself, that it is difficult to discern the real t***h, and until there is a way of discerning that t***h, all brands of religion are suspect. As for evangelizing, I've had to kick Mormon missionaries off my porch, and Jehovah's Witnesses down the front stairs because they refused to leave. They all believe that they are in the right, and nobody else has the ultimate road to salvation (wh**ever that is, depending on your dogma.) The whole thing is subjective without any factual proof. If you choose to believe in one brand or another, that's up to you, just leave me out of the equation.
I am pointing out that since there are so many con... (show quote)


Its up to each individual to decide for themselves. But the bible doesn't contradict itself. If you were interested in a more philosophical bent from someone who's never pushy and takes any question you should check out Ravi Zacharias. He's answered some tough questions and is always polite and kind in his answers.

I've had Jehovah's witnesses try and force their way inside but didn't have any problems with Mormons. They usually left without trouble....but I had a dog with me. lol

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