TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

If YOU paid attention to what I said you’d see that i didn’t accuse you directly or personally. What i said was, after all, merely summarizing the other side of the coin of the point of Prager’s video: to correct, what generally comes from l*****t/liberals, the contentions that God should be and/or also be referred to in the feminine or neutral g****r(s). And/or the idea that manhood/fatherhood/patriarchy is somehow evil. Like, for example, the latest fad of claiming “toxic masculinity”.

Are you saying you haven’t seen this happening, and that much more often on the l*****t side?

Nor was I attempting to argue with you.

Chill dude.

rumitoid

Tommy like many on the Right are too often blinded by stereotypes for any chance of communication. He criticized me for "belittling or delegitimizing the fact that God is always portrayed in a male role" when I made no comment on that point. My point was that Prager's "Bible goals" distorted scripture with its humanistic ambitions.

susanblange Loc: USA

If you haven't committed a deadly sin, and you sincerely repent of your sin, God will forgive you. This is a four step process. Remorse, confession, restitution, and change. We are not to take vengeance, or hold a grudge, vengeance belongs to God. Leviticus 19:18. When God forgives a sin, it is also forgotten, and will never be mentioned again. We formally atone for our sins once a year on Yom Kippur. The goal is to become holy, "a kingdom of priests and a holy nation". Exodus 19:6.

rumitoid

If your intention was to make general remarks about what L*****t think and do and not having to do with what I said, why "quote reply" me?

As far as seeing much ado about the God of the Bible being portrayed as a male, I have seen way too much. And abundantly from the Left. It is childish and sad and pointless. In the words of Paul, it falls into "disputable matters." No big deal one way or the other. Definitely nothing to divide, argue over, or judge. Almost like when Church elders argued over how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. Maybe not exactly silly, yet given all that is happening in the world and how to better spend our time, this subject needs a rest.

MeadowFields

Dennis Prager's argument that G-D must be male so to act as a male role model for good behavior since males are mostly violent and females are inherently less violent. That is too simplistic a reason and apparently isn't working very well either by virtue of the violence escalating in the world. I think the more rational explanation is that the bible had its origins in the ancient days of patriarchal dominance due to the superior physical strength of men over women who needed protection from aggressive males and who were relegated to household chores and raising children. Women can be just as perverse and punishing as males, but in more devious and cunning ways. I grew up in a female dominated home (I was six years old when my father died) and my older sister watched over me while my Mom went to work to support us. I have developed a healthy respect for women's courage and fighting spirit that most men could learn lessons from. My male role models were my teachers and the responsible men I saw around me who worked hard to keep their families intact and sufficiently provided for. Men who beat up on women to show their superiority are cowards who fail their masculine g****r through primitive behavior patterns of dominance.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

So, in other words, you didn't watch the video.

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

Thank you for a most civilized response. I appreciate that.

Morgan

You've summed that up very nicely.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Well, it sure is a big problem in the Black Community with 70% out-of-wedlock births and absentee fathers. Prager doesn't say God is a male. In fact, no one says God is male. He says the Bible portrays him this way. Probably for the reasons both you and he pointed out.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

G****r is not the exact same thing as sex.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

I did and you don't sound like a Christian !

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Bush Jr. said the most influential person in his life was, "Jesus, because he changed my heart."

billdeserthills

If you look at Genesis 1:27, it's easy to see that G-d made Adam in His image, therefore G-d is what we call a 'man'

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Remember, when you point your finger, there’s four pointing back at you.

I explained to you that I wasn’t accusing you directly or personally, and why I made the comment, and now you, in my estimation, are the one being “too blinded by stereotypes” to hear my explanation.

Then you go on to criticize getting into trivial arguments, somehow forgetting that no one held a gun to your head to join this discussion with your strongly dissenting opinion. Apparently, that response was because I had a response to your accusations that you couldn’t otherwise defend, so you felt the need to resort to an ad hominem to save face. So, better to imply that guys like me just want to argue about insignificant issues than admit maybe you responded too hastily.

And all because I made the suggestion that you and Blade Runner start your own thread over the topic (mostly because I see the topic of “the purpose of salvation” an important one, worthy of its own thread), which you decided was so wrong-headed that you felt the need to argue with me over in order it to keep an important topic as a sub-topic in the thread which you now claim is a relatively trivial pursuit. But somehow your arguing over which thread your more important sub-topic, which you feel should be the main topic, belonged in, wasn’t trivial because you obviously wouldn’t condescend to trivial, fruitless arguments...

Okay, your turn. Go ahead and tell me, in your view, all the things I’ve said or done wrong in this thread.


By the way, I’m actually beginning to see your point about the humanistic side of Prager’s purpose in his video. Whereas I initially attributed his position to “merely” his Jewish viewpoint, that alone is a little too simplistic. Almost like excusing an unruly child for being too young to understand, when in fact they should have known better at their age. For, by disallowing the New Testament extension to God’s word, his clinging to “old manna” is humanistic. Sorry I didn’t pick up on that earlier. I still don’t see that point as negating his points about why God is referred to in scripture as male, but it certainly casts his motives in a non-Christian (and therefore humanistic) light.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I was hoping that the two of them would discuss the topic... They are both quite knowledgable concerning scripture...Yet have different view points... It would have been most interesting...

I find your (and Rumi's) points about Prager accurate... It is too bad so many members get bogged down in trivial conflicts...

Once again you've proven an excellent poster... And I understand your disappointment on this thread... Your suggestion was an excellent one... In my opinion...

Have a blessed day Tommy. .

Your friend, Kyle