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May 2, 2019 20:54:09   #
kemmer
 
susanblange wrote:
He didn't. The only animals that were included on the Ark were those that were native to Mesopotamia. Penguins and polar bears lived in colder climates in other parts of the world.

Why didn’t they die in the “global flood”.

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May 2, 2019 21:13:32   #
Nickolai
 
susanblange wrote:
I agree that the flood was not global. It covered the entire known world, Mesopotamia. Animals that were included on the Ark were those indigenous to the middle east. The Ark landed on the mountains of Ararat, not far from where it started.





What was the purpose then the peoples and animals in the Americas weren't bothered then???

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May 2, 2019 21:23:53   #
Nickolai
 
susanblange wrote:
The purpose of life is life itself. God created us because he was lonely and it is his purpose for all of us to enter Heaven when we die, and ultimately to take part in the resurrection with God. The righteous meek will inherit the earth. And it's not that hard. All we have to do is repent of our sins. This is a four step process. Remorse, confession, restitution, and most importantly, change.







The earth is so tiny and insignificant in the scheme of the cosmos, that to find it in that scheme would like looking for a single grain of salt at the bottom of a haystack as large as the earth itself. Why so much attention at something so insignificant and infinitesimally small

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May 2, 2019 21:38:11   #
Rose42
 
kemmer wrote:
If you wish to believe in the Jesus of pain and terror, fine. You’re in the minuscule minority.


Don’t be a drama queen. Thats not what I said. I don’t care what the majority thinks. I don’t want to be on the wide road with them.

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May 2, 2019 22:07:19   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
kemmer wrote:
Susan said Jesus spoke more about punishment than heaven.


I think you've got me confused with somebody else. Jesus was all about loving people, forgiving your enemies and turning the other cheek.

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May 2, 2019 22:21:23   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
kemmer wrote:
Why didn’t they die in the “global flood”.


You're not keeping up. The flood was local, affecting the cradle of civilization, or Mesopotamia. Most animals are only native to certain continents. Human life was confined to the middle east. It was God's purpose to k**l off human beings, not animals. This was because they were desperately wicked children of Adam/Satan. They chose to follow him rather than God/Eve. Genesis 3:16. "...and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee". God started over again with a righteous man and his family.

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May 2, 2019 22:27:43   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Nickolai wrote:
What was the purpose then the peoples and animals in the Americas weren't bothered then???


There were no people in the Americas at that time. There were animals that were indigenous to the Americas, like the buffalo. It was Gods purpose to k**l off human life because they were wicked. All humans lived in the middle east at the time of the flood.

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May 2, 2019 22:33:47   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Nickolai wrote:
The earth is so tiny and insignificant in the scheme of the cosmos, that to find it in that scheme would like looking for a single grain of salt at the bottom of a haystack as large as the earth itself. Why so much attention at something so insignificant and infinitesimally small


The earth was created as a habitat for mankind. We were created in the physical likeness of God. God basically reproduced himself because he was lonely. God has always planned on living on earth as the King of the Universe. He is also our Judge and Lawgiver. As far as God is concerned, Earth is the center of the Universe.

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May 2, 2019 23:29:51   #
Nickolai
 
susanblange wrote:
The earth was created as a habitat for mankind. We were created in the physical likeness of God. God basically reproduced himself because he was lonely. God has always planned on living on earth as the King of the Universe. He is also our Judge and Lawgiver. As far as God is concerned, Earth is the center of the Universe.






No according to the religious the earth is the center of the universe. The Church once taught that the earth was flat and square, and if you walked to the ends of the earth you could fall off of it. The sun rose then fell and went under the earth and the sky was a big dome that kept all the water out. Science made those concepts a joke but bronze and iron age people believed it. The universe was an estimated 9 billion years old when the sun and is planets, asteroids, comets, and moons were formed out of the gas dust and debris from older exploded stars. The carbon manufactured in the heat and pressure in their cores is the basis of life on Earth With out the early stars there would be no carbon in the universe and therefore no life on earth

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May 3, 2019 12:28:05   #
kemmer
 
susanblange wrote:
There were no people in the Americas at that time.

There have been people in North and South America for over 12,000 years.
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All humans lived in the middle east at the time of the flood.

How can you even say that with presumably a straight face?!

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May 3, 2019 21:27:06   #
son of witless
 
Nickolai wrote:
Mythology is certainly not the way to t***h. The history of Egypt is carved into walls ceilings and columns of their tombs temples and Palaces and no where is there a recounting of an Egyptian Pharaoh chasing Israelites and drowning in the Red Sea. The story was written during captivity of the Israelites in Babylon
around 650 BC The story of the Exodus appears to be derived from the story ofthe Hyksos a semitic people who conquered Egypt in 1700 BC built a capital in the Delta, ruled Egypt for 150 years untill being driven out and into Canaan y a Pharaoh by the name of Ahmose. The Israelite scribs that wrote theold tedtament were ins***ed at the time in Babylon and the story of moses was barowed from earler religions and reversed the story of the Hyksos. The differance is the story of the Hyksos is historical and the story of Moses is mythological
Mythology is certainly not the way to t***h. The ... (show quote)


Mythology like Alchemy had it's place in an illiterate world. Cultural Leaders needed to preserve t***hs, religion, and the collective memories of various groups of peoples in the Ancient World. It was a way of keeping a cultural identity alive.

Rather like our American Westerns and WW2 movies preserve an identity for future generations. Not 100 % accurate, but certainly more accurate than today's l*****t view of the future.

Since we are speaking of historical accuracy, please explain how the story of the Hyksos, who were a conquering population over Egypt, could possibly evolve into the story of the Israelis who were s***es in Egypt ?

I am waiting.

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May 3, 2019 22:13:34   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
kemmer wrote:
How can you even say that with presumably a straight face?!


American peoples, which were called Indians, came from Siberia. They predate the arrival of white Europeans. They crossed the Bering Strait and migrated to the south and east into the Americas. They were descendants of Japheth, the eldest son of Noah.

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May 4, 2019 10:07:18   #
Kazudy
 
susanblange wrote:
Most ancient civilizations have a flood story and they are all alike. This is because it is a fact. It happened!


So, if the flood from Gigadesh's epic, then certainly the flood came BEFORE Gigadesh. You win this round Susan.👍👍👍👍👍

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May 4, 2019 10:08:10   #
Kazudy
 
kemmer wrote:
So you think all the races and cultures on the planet today are descendants of the 8 people on Noah’s supposed ark?


Most of us do.

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