Satan, the First Socialist.
May 2, 2019 18:01:30 #
Nickolai wrote:
There may have been a local flood but not a global one. Noah's boat was reputed to be 30 cubits but never in history was any one able to come close to building a wooden boat that large until 3,000 years later when iron ships began being built
In any case, one wonders where Noah got all that wood on the plains of Mesopotamia.
May 2, 2019 18:02:46 #
May 2, 2019 18:07:26 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Of course mythology is not the path to t***h, nor ... (show quote)
So, what are you saying? The Bible tells us all we need to know about ourselves and our history, or can we leave that to Science?
May 2, 2019 18:09:58 #
kemmer wrote:
LOL, yes it is.
Of course it isn't. You can make up any narrative you like in an effort to justify your unbelief and it will never be true.
May 2, 2019 18:22:56 #
Rose42 wrote:
Of course it isn't. You can make up any narrative you like in an effort to justify your unbelief and it will never be true.
I don’t have to make up anything. And although I believe in Jesus and his message, I’m not required to believe some of the more wildass stories of the OT.
May 2, 2019 18:34:35 #
kemmer wrote:
Nope, not at all what I'm saying. If we leave our quest for knowledge and t***h to science alone, we will have no hope of finding answers to mankind's four fundamental questions: Origin, Meaning, Morality, and Destiny.So, what are you saying? The Bible tells us all we need to know about ourselves and our history, or can we leave that to Science?
May 2, 2019 18:43:37 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Nope, not at all what I'm saying. If we leave our quest for knowledge and t***h to science alone, we will have no hope of finding answers to mankind's four fundamental questions: Origin, Meaning, Morality, and Destiny.
OK. Philosophy can help with that.
May 2, 2019 18:47:07 #
kemmer wrote:
I don’t have to make up anything. And although I believe in Jesus and his message, I’m not required to believe some of the more wildass stories of the OT.
If you don't believe what's in the Old Testament - which has much to do with Christ - then you can't be a follower of Christ and you don't know his message. Remember he spoke of how hard it was to follow him and he spoke far more about eternal punishment than he ever did about heaven. His message is replete with warnings.
May 2, 2019 20:10:35 #
susanblange
Loc: USA
Nickolai wrote:
There may have been a local flood but not a global one. Noah's boat was reputed to be 30 cubits but never in history was any one able to come close to building a wooden boat that large until 3,000 years later when iron ships began being built
I agree that the flood was not global. It covered the entire known world, Mesopotamia. Animals that were included on the Ark were those indigenous to the middle east. The Ark landed on the mountains of Ararat, not far from where it started.
May 2, 2019 20:16:20 #
Rose42 wrote:
If you don't believe what's in the Old Testament - which has much to do with Christ - then you can't be a follower of Christ and you don't know his message. Remember he spoke of how hard it was to follow him and he spoke far more about eternal punishment than he ever did about heaven. His message is replete with warnings.
If you wish to believe in the Jesus of pain and terror, fine. You’re in the minuscule minority.
May 2, 2019 20:17:41 #
susanblange wrote:
I agree that the flood was not global. It covered the entire known world, Mesopotamia. Animals that were included on the Ark were those indigenous to the middle east. The Ark landed on the mountains of Ararat, not far from where it started.
Where did Noah get the penguins and polar bears?
May 2, 2019 20:18:21 #
kemmer wrote:
There was a "Jesus of pain and terror"???? Damn, that's a new one on me.If you wish to believe in the Jesus of pain and terror, fine. You’re in the minuscule minority.
May 2, 2019 20:27:32 #
susanblange
Loc: USA
Blade_Runner wrote:
Nope, not at all what I'm saying. If we leave our quest for knowledge and t***h to science alone, we will have no hope of finding answers to mankind's four fundamental questions: Origin, Meaning, Morality, and Destiny.
The purpose of life is life itself. God created us because he was lonely and it is his purpose for all of us to enter Heaven when we die, and ultimately to take part in the resurrection with God. The righteous meek will inherit the earth. And it's not that hard. All we have to do is repent of our sins. This is a four step process. Remorse, confession, restitution, and most importantly, change.
May 2, 2019 20:33:59 #
susanblange
Loc: USA
kemmer wrote:
Where did Noah get the penguins and polar bears?
He didn't. The only animals that were included on the Ark were those that were native to Mesopotamia. Penguins and polar bears lived in colder climates in other parts of the world.
May 2, 2019 20:52:45 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
There was a "Jesus of pain and terror"???? Damn, that's a new one on me.
Susan said Jesus spoke more about punishment than heaven.
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