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Apr 27, 2019 14:39:01   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
permafrost wrote:
You are dimmer than usual today.. hangover?

The government which failed in Finland was a center-right government..

That information was included in my post as well as others..

You truly should read the information before b***hin about it..




Just because you say it means zip to the t***h. The population of Finland is 90% liberal as are Sweden and Norway.
One more thing, you call Trump, I say prove it, the only trader around her is you, a true America h**er.

I found a picture of your wife. A helper I see.



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Apr 27, 2019 15:15:01   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
Stu Cameron...it seems you've left someone out of your "guilty" list...

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Apr 27, 2019 15:36:15   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Kevyn wrote:
The escalating cost of healthcare in Finland is fueled by the aging population not failure in the system.

So aging is an exception they didn't see coming? An anomaly? Something people who take good and proper care of themselves do not do? Do you know how stupid that statement is?

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Apr 27, 2019 16:13:13   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
billy a wrote:
"The System" is in place to HANDLE Finland's version of Baby-Boomers...Russia,since the soviet union days,and earlier,has had it's eye on Finland. Now She's easy-pickens...


In come a******n for old folks!

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Apr 27, 2019 19:31:37   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
Stu Cameron...there's an EIGHT-YEAR GAP in your indictment. Now who could that be?

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Apr 27, 2019 19:57:29   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
Mr, This is old news and was all over the legitimate press in early March..

Kevyn short post covers this very well..


It is not as bad as it sounds as the e******ns, now over, were expected to replace the center-right government with some more poised to compromise..

this Link has a pretty good report on the whole problem..

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/08/finlands-government-resigns-after-healthcare-reform-fails.html


Finland’s government resigned on Friday after ditching plans to reform the healthcare system, a key policy, the Finnish president’s office said, throwing the country into political limbo.

The president approved Prime Minister Juha Sipila’s resignation and asked his government to continue as a care-taker government until a new cabinet has been appointed.

The collapse of the government comes just one month before parliamentary e******ns are due, after Sipila failed to push through the reforms. The changes were crucial to the three-party governing coalition’s plan to balance public finances.

Financial constraints are colliding with the healthcare costs imposed by Finland’s fast-ageing population. But cutting those costs is a major political obstacle in a Nordic country that historically has provided an extensive -- and expensive -- healthcare system.

Sipila resigned “because the healthcare reform cannot be accomplished during this government term,” Antti Kaikkonen, the head of Sipila’s Center Party’s parliamentary group, wrote on Twitter. Several governments have tried to push through reforms in different forms over the past 12 years.

“Since e******ns were already set for 14 April, the resignation of the government is not a big deal at all at this point. Still, it does create some ugly headlines,” Nordea’s chief analyst wrote on Twitter.

According to the government, the reform could have curbed the annual growth of Finland’s public social and healthcare expenses to 0.9 percent from the current estimate of 2.4 percent between 2019 and 2029.

Sipila had previously said he would dissolve his center-right coalition government if it failed to push through its healthcare and local government reform.
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Isn't Japan's population even older than Finland ? I wonder why they seem to do better on costs ?

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Apr 27, 2019 21:17:08   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
In come a******n for old folks!


Dr. Kevorkian would be so proud...

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Apr 27, 2019 21:34:41   #
Auntie Lulu
 
Kevyn wrote:
It was thoroughly covered in the Times and the Washington Post.


Oh! Yea . . . like those are the very two news sources that we all rush to consult!!!!

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Apr 27, 2019 22:12:42   #
Jean Deaux
 
MR Mister wrote:
Don't look now seriously, the media really don't want you to look but Finland, the Democrat Socialists most favored nation, their example of the country America should emulate, just saw its government collapse and its Prime Minister and Cabinet resign due to the unsustainable costs of universal health care.

This happened last week. Did you hear about it from our great MSM in the news? Didn't think so.

https://legali**********n.com/2019/03/finland-government-collapses-over-universal-health-care-costs-bernie2020-hardest-hit/

This comes less than a year after Finland k**led its experiment with a universal basic income, replacing it with mandatory job training and work requirements for people on government benefits.

There's more at the link, along with a few ironic tweets from Bernie Sanders, lavishing praise on Finland. In one, he demands, If Finland can provide everyone with health care, send everyone to college for free and provide affordable child care, why can't the US?

Well, Finland can't. Neither can you, Bernie.

DID YOU EVER WONDER IF BERNIE WANTS THE SAME FOR AMERICA?
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Senile sanders is reviewing his options and notions, none of which are good. Perhaps desperation will ride in to the rescue, but not likely!

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Apr 27, 2019 22:16:10   #
Jean Deaux
 
MR Mister wrote:
Just because you say it means zip to the t***h. The population of Finland is 90% liberal as are Sweden and Norway.
One more thing, you call Trump, I say prove it, the only trader around her is you, a true America h**er.

I found a picture of your wife. A helper I see.



Must be a dev**ee that hasn't gotten the word yet that hillary lost. If I ever see her standing on an American f**g, I'll knock her square on her keister; she is sure no lady.

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Apr 27, 2019 22:19:09   #
Jean Deaux
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
So aging is an exception they didn't see coming? An anomaly? Something people who take good and proper care of themselves do not do? Do you know how stupid that statement is?


And that makes the U.S. different from Finland?

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Apr 27, 2019 22:53:15   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Kevyn wrote:
Everything in my post is accurate and factual, the ignorance is in you failing to acknowledge that Finland has universal healthcare that is less expensive and provides better results than in the US.


Right up until the system collapses. Finland has a very homogenous population of 5.5 million. Maybe you think their system will work in an extremely diverse nation of 330 million. Why is our healthcare expensive? Maybe because we have 8% of the world's population and more than 75% of the lawyers? I have a family member who is a physician, never had a claim filed against him and his malpractice insurance is around $150,000. By the time he pays for this, pays on his lease, and his staff and all the other expenses, he has to make around $250,000 before he buys a baloney sandwich. Juries that award outrageous multi-million dollar claims and think they are sticking it to the system don't seem to realize they are screwing themselves. The only real winners are the lawyers.

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Apr 28, 2019 07:11:15   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
And that makes the U.S. different from Finland?

What? People aging? Here's a little newsflash for you: People, everywhere, whether it be Finland, the United States or Timbuktu, all age. Not only that, but they all age at precisely the same rate. At this time next year, we will all, all of us, every single one, be precisely one year older, hence we will have aged by a year, same as everybody else in the universe. That the whole universe, with a 'U'.

The fact that the Finnish government blamed the collapse of their socialist healthcare system on people aging is preposterous. As if they designed a system that was incapable of understanding that people get older.

Here's another newsflash for you: It did not collapse because people age, it collapsed because it was designed on an unsustainable basis, a basis we here in the free world call socialism, an economic and political theory advocating governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

Socialism only has one problem:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/4es1yn/can_you_name_one_successful_socialist_country/

Does that clear it up for you?

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Apr 28, 2019 11:46:49   #
son of witless
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
What? People aging? Here's a little newsflash for you: People, everywhere, whether it be Finland, the United States or Timbuktu, all age. Not only that, but they all age at precisely the same rate. At this time next year, we will all, all of us, every single one, be precisely one year older, hence we will have aged by a year, same as everybody else in the universe. That the whole universe, with a 'U'.

The fact that the Finnish government blamed the collapse of their socialist healthcare system on people aging is preposterous. As if they designed a system that was incapable of understanding that people get older.

Here's another newsflash for you: It did not collapse because people age, it collapsed because it was designed on an unsustainable basis, a basis we here in the free world call socialism, an economic and political theory advocating governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

Socialism only has one problem:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/4es1yn/can_you_name_one_successful_socialist_country/

Does that clear it up for you?
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Apr 28, 2019 12:01:24   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
Isn't Japan's population even older than Finland ? I wonder why they seem to do better on costs ?




I could not tell you, did not know we were going to look at Japans population..



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