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Apr 24, 2019 10:03:42   #
Dinty
 
Kevyn wrote:
Forcing American women who do not in any way want to have children to carry unwanted pregnancy to term is pure evil, and unconstitutional.


If they didn't want children, stop having sex.

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Apr 24, 2019 10:18:58   #
plainlogic
 
Kevyn wrote:
Forcing American women who do not in any way want to have children to carry unwanted pregnancy to term is pure evil, and unconstitutional.



Whew, you were one of the lucky ones uh. Lucky you.

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Apr 24, 2019 10:25:54   #
plainlogic
 
Dinty wrote:
If they didn't want children, stop having sex.



It's a matter of being lazy, they give out contraceptive means but yet they refuse to take them. Birth control pills? Naw, they skip 'em. condoms? who needs 'em. A day after pill? a what?
A******n is the new method approved by i***ts that have more excuses to blame it on than to accept responsibility.

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Apr 24, 2019 10:43:00   #
Sew_What
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
That's a completely asinine statement .............. Goober.

If the women don't want to have children they should remain celibate.

Only pregnant women have a******ns.

So if they " do not in anyway want to have children " then why did they allow themselves to get pregnant ?

We absolutely should 'force' any woman who gets pregnant, to deliver a live healthy child.

Even a rape victims child can be raised to be a productive American.


...and men should be castrated, because it is clear that they initiate rape: GOOOOOOOBBr

Liberals come from some place, unless they aren't born.

Guess that proves that liberals aren't the ones getting a******ns.

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Apr 24, 2019 12:32:59   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
RT friend wrote:
I don't think women will accept arbitrary decisions being made about disallowing early term a******ns, but most reasonable people accept an independent human life begins somewhere between three to four months after conception.

Ideals don't blend in well with biological constraints ideals are a demand for perfection, and biology is practical demand for recognition of perfect in one way is a detriment for another.

Best practice, procedures and processes are hard won concessions over ignorance and malpractice, we all accept invasive medical treatment if necessary and that acceptance comes with trust and belief in the procedures and processes we undergo to remain healthy.

Having a term limit of gestation after which a******n becomes a criminal procedure is just one such biological constraint.

Which must mean that life as was understood by precedential ideals which contributed to our understanding of family rights including individual members rights within the family are and should be protected by legal statutes and enforcement so hard won established demands that became commonly accepted should still be considered socially proper by individuals the same as invasive medical procedures are accepted.

Having a baby is an invasive medical procedure.


I don't think women will accept arbitrary decision... (show quote)



Having a baby is not an invasive procedure; having an a******n is.


There are only three incontrovertible points in the development of life; conception, implantation and birth. All others are arbitrary.


Roe vs. Wade was decided on the basis of a right of privacy which is found nowhere in The Constitution. By The Ninth & Tenth Amendments any right of privacy is therefore not the province of the federal government but to devolves to the states and the people respectively.

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Apr 24, 2019 12:35:16   #
Sew_What
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Having a baby is not an invasive procedure; having an a******n is.



...had a baby lately?

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Apr 24, 2019 12:38:37   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Kevyn wrote:
Adults having sex is a criminal activity in your mind? Fortunately that has not been the case in the US for decades. Taxpayers do not pay a dime for a******n procedures although they should as part of any health coverage. Women do not use a******n as a form of birth control they use it to end an unwanted pregnancy when birth control fails.



Once more Kevyn shows his ignorance. There are women who are using it as birth control. I know women who have had five & even six a******ns.

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Apr 24, 2019 12:53:32   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Sew_What wrote:
...had a baby lately?


Have you had an a******n or a baby lately

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Apr 24, 2019 13:16:57   #
Richard Rowland
 
Kevyn wrote:
Here is a solution for you, if you don’t want an a******n don’t have one. It is your choice not mine the governments or that of anyone else but you. Think about it like a tattoo, I do not like tattoos so I do not get one this does not give me the right to preclude you from getting one. You can have an image of a penis tattooed on your forehead and as stupid as that might be it is your choice not mine. The only role the government has is to make sure the tattoo parlor you go to operates in a safe sanitary manner. Carrying a pregnancy to term is many times greater a threat to a woman’s health and life than an first trimester a******n, to force a rape victim to go through an unwanted pregnancy is nothing short of monstrous. What kind of sick warped person thinks that women somehow should be forced to bear America children?
Here is a solution for you, if you don’t want an a... (show quote)


Full-term pregnancies were dangerous and often deadly pre-modern-day medicine. However, what's your rationale. in view of advanced medical procedures, for the claim that carrying to full term is a greater threat than an a******n?

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Apr 24, 2019 13:42:15   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
RT friend wrote:
I don't think women will accept arbitrary decisions being made about disallowing early term a******ns, but most reasonable people accept an independent human life begins somewhere between three to four months after conception...

Having a term limit of gestation after which a******n becomes a criminal procedure is just one such biological constraint...

Having a baby is an invasive medical procedure.

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Your argument works 100% against your position.

The irrefutable, biological fact is that life begins at conception.

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/life-issues/when-human-life-begins

https://www.lifenews.com/2015/01/08/41-quotes-from-medical-textbooks-prove-human-life-begins-at-conception/

Therefore, biological facts, all by themselves, refute your position and prove that it is you that is in denial of biology and supporting a case strictly by ideology, and that contrary to known science. Beliefs that run contrary to science are called "delusional thinking". Thus they are worse than a mere "religion" that exists without clear evidence one way or another.

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Apr 24, 2019 14:41:41   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Full-term pregnancies were dangerous and often deadly pre-modern-day medicine. However, what's your rationale. in view of advanced medical procedures, for the claim that carrying to full term is a greater threat than an a******n?


Most of those deaths were due to puerperal sepsis which was reduced precipitously by the simple process of hand washing by midwifes. They were further precipitously reduced with the advent of antibiotics.

Even the president of Planned Parenthood in the late 1960s admitted that the annual number of deaths from illegal a******ns was 250, a far cry from the 1,500 bandied about by pro-a******ners who advocated for legalized a******n. They've been liars from the get-go; anything to accomplish the goal is the liberals' cry.

And, for wh**ever it's worth, I have bent my searches nine ways to Sunday in wordings, and I can not find statistics for deaths from legal and illegal a******ns.

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Apr 24, 2019 15:27:03   #
Sew_What
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Have you had an a******n or a baby lately


No, but my wife told me giving birth is horrible and a miscarriage is almost as bad.

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Apr 24, 2019 15:54:02   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Sew_What wrote:
No, but my wife told me giving birth is horrible and a miscarriage is almost as bad.


So, what was your original point?

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Apr 24, 2019 15:56:09   #
Sew_What
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
So, what was your original point?


What was your's, you were bragging about how painful birth is: have you given birth. If you haven't you have no idea what you're talking about, therefore why would I give your opinion about anything any credence.

You want to stop a******n: adopt and if she doesn't want to adopt, give her an a******n-it's her body.

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Apr 24, 2019 15:56:10   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Your argument works 100% against your position.

The irrefutable, biological fact is that life begins at conception.

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/life-issues/when-human-life-begins

https://www.lifenews.com/2015/01/08/41-quotes-from-medical-textbooks-prove-human-life-begins-at-conception/

Therefore, biological facts, all by themselves, refute your position and prove that it is you that is in denial of biology and supporting a case strictly by ideology, and that contrary to known science. Beliefs that run contrary to science are called "delusional thinking". Thus they are worse than a mere "religion" that exists without clear evidence one way or another.
Your argument works 100% against your position. br... (show quote)


You have to realize that all of progressivism is grounded in h**e & contempt and that a******n is the ultimate in h**e and contempt. Just read through the postings of the porgressives on OPP for confirmation.

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